BB17005 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Bachamnn's website does not show any planned delivery date yet, nor has there been any sign of even a CAD drawing for them so we are still a good year or so away from the models hitting the shops I would guess. Better fit some flood defences to your mouth Thank you , does it perhaps fall into the category of Warley 2013 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel W Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Definately interested in this one, my Grandad used to see these all the time on Suburban work when he he was a lad living in Blackpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CLARENCE Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) I've pre-ordered one - used to see and travel behind them when I were a lad in the 50's and early 60's (to and from Ilkley on the Skipton to Leeds/Bradford branch.) Definitely going to have at least one on my little layout! Cheers, David Edited September 21, 2012 by CLARENCE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianwales Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Hi all Just a quick question, with regard to some of the earlier replies in this thread mentioning that some of these locos were push pull fitted is anyone able to tell me of any numbers of push pull fitted examples that match the details, short bunker etc, of the first of the Bachman releases please? Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Aintree allocated ones where push pull fitted as far as im aware, for the Ormskirk-Skelmersdale working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I should think you need a book on the L&Y Radial Tanks to give you the full information on combinations of boilers, bunkers and auto-vac equipment. I think three of the 2-4-2T's carried Westinghouse push & pull equipment within the cab for Blackpool local services until circa 1953. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Dad has had his L&Y Railway Society magazine arrive the other day saying they are going to be selling a batch of these in L&Y llined black as per 1008 @ NRM plus they are also doing some with an alternative number for the etched plate. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark axlecounter Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 i have ordered a few are they doing the push pull ones anyone know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J C Fenton Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Touching on earlier posts in this thread, does anyone know the diameter of the leading and trailing wheels, and the distance from the wheel centres between these and the drivers and between the drivers? I'm afraid I'm not an L&Y man (apologies to them as is), so unlikely to invest in a book simply IOT find this out. So, I would be most grateful if one of the L&Y cognoscenti could please post the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebottle Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 From Ian Beattie's article and drawings in the "Railway Modeller", January 1984: Leading and trailing wheels 3' 7¾”. Drivers 5' 8”. Between leading/trailing wheels and drivers 7' 10½”. Between drivers 8' 7”. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J C Fenton Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 From Ian Beattie's article and drawings in the "Railway Modeller", January 1984: Leading and trailing wheels 3' 7¾”. Drivers 5' 8”. Between leading/trailing wheels and drivers 7' 10½”. Between drivers 8' 7”. Very many thanks, indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcompound Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Wirral Railway's loco livery was black lined with white, yellow and vermillion, coupling rods were either red or vermillion but all with black edging and vermillion lining; bufferbeams were vermillion with a black edge and the buffer casings were black. The WR tank (L&Y 1041) seems to have stayed in L&Y livery, with the addition of the oval numberplate No6. it was bought by the WR in June 1921 so it wasn't around for very long before grouping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium gc4946 Posted May 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 28, 2013 The WR tank (L&Y 1041) seems to have stayed in L&Y livery, with the addition of the oval numberplate No6. it was bought by the WR in June 1921 so it wasn't around for very long before grouping. If that's the case, I would be interested in the L&Y version when released. However I've bought postcard prints from Scaleforum at Wakefield about a year ago showing no.6 fitted with an extended bunker in Wirral days which tapered outwards at the top, which according to a side-on photo, remained intact when renumbered by the LMS as 6762 and was still present on the loco in 1950 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%26YR_Class_5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ever used to shunt around various Liverpool yards I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Melrose Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ever used to shunt around various Liverpool yards I wonder? I don't think they were used for shunting in the freight context anyway; at least not in the 1950s when I saw them in the Liverpool Area as a teenage trainspotter. The two based at Bank Hall Shed were used as the Station Pilots at Liverpool Exchange until replaced by two Ivatt 2MT 2-6-2Ts. I think the one based at Southport was also used as the Chapel Street Pilot until scrapped. In their early lives they were used on the Liverpool - Manchester passenger services and my 1958 Ian Allan ABC of British Railway Locomotives lists them as power classification 2P in 1958. HTH, Stan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 and most of the L&Y goods yards had tight curves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Livery samples now showing at http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/details.php?id=122&vis=2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 So the LMS version is in post war unlined black. I am pretty sure the builders plate was not on the smokebox side! Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 I am pretty sure the builders plate was not on the smokebox side! Well I have managed to find two pics of an LMS builders plate on the side of the smokebox, both early LMS days but none in BR condition -can anyone else find evidence of plates in this position in BR days? Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Well I have managed to find two pics of an LMS builders plate on the side of the smokebox, both early LMS days but none in BR condition -can anyone else find evidence of plates in this position in BR days? Tony yes there is one in this thread, page 3 post 63, 50746 at Southport Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) I'll bet many modellers realize the L&Y 2-4-2T is something special and one they never expected to see in plastic RTR form. I suppose a builders plate is food for discussion but I have to smile..... Edited July 5, 2013 by coachmann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornbyandbf3fan Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 They do look very nice! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium phil-b259 Posted July 5, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 5, 2013 So the LMS version is in post war unlined black. Its a shame Bachmann have gone for this variant rather than the more attractive lined LMS black passenger locos got pre WW2 (assuming the tank was rated as a passenger loco and thus entitled to it of course). Hopefully in time this will be addressed, with the more colourful pre grouping liveries being popular a L&Y liveried or even an early LMS lined maroon liveried variant would surely go down well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Yellow shaded red insignia dates from 1938 so that is the minimum LMS date for the livery carried by the Bachmann LYR 2-4-2T. Plain black was around before the war and there are numerous L&Y 2-4-2T engines listed in LMS Locomotive Liveries in the 1930s with type C (plain black) livery. I hope this helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 (edited) From Ian Beattie's article and drawings in the "Railway Modeller", January 1984: Leading and trailing wheels 3' 7¾”. Drivers 5' 8”. Between leading/trailing wheels and drivers 7' 10½”. Between drivers 8' 7”. Very near a LNER ex NER F8 and similar looking too !! http://www.lner.info/locos/F/f8.shtml thanks Edited July 5, 2013 by micklner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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