Andrew P Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Aint you dun nuffin yet guv? Only joking mate, well it WAS WORTH THE WAIT, you really have done a cracking job and I think it will work well. As Mike (above) says, watch the formers, we had the same problem with our club layout and it is still causing a nightmare, that is why I use cardboard to cover the frame, then the Mod Rock. Great stuff mate Hilly Lune Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 27, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2013 An excellent afternoons work, Jeff! Really well done, now get a quick bite to eat and get back in that bunker, Sir! He, he, he (only joking!) You can have the evening off!!! Cheers, E. John Lunester. John - you are SO kind to me!! I really must have a look at this German layout of yours. Have you got rid of the Dent P4 item? cheers, Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 27, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2013 Chris, Andy. Thanks for the suggestions. I think I might have a couple of fields, one on each side of the river. You're right about the colours - the fields could be quite a contrast to what's on the slopes. I've always created a mesh of tape over my formers but the former always seem to poke through somewhere. Oh well, filler is delightful stuff to work with, so I think it'll come in handy. I do have a stock of old Shreddies boxes though - you never know when card will come in handy. It's been a frantic couple of days. I really must do a bit of wiring tomorrow! Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aberdare Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Hi Jeff Cut a strip of your Shreddies box into a width of 25mm or more and fix it lengthways down the formers and then add the mesh of tape or more card across them. It stops that ridge being quite so noticeable through the covering. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Hi Jeff, Just catching up and what a catch up!!! I missed the poll on what you might be up to but as I was reading the posts I thought you were probably following the advice of fellow lunesters in - cutting the sides, adding the embankments, replacing the sides and forming a cutting and you were back to where you started. That would have given you a good excuse to have the weekend off!! If you ever need a way to waste time productively I'm your man! I did get a shock at the plaster bandage until I read the text - 'an old layout' almost a gotcha! You've played a blinder this weekend, well done. Cheers mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Jeff I don't know what you've been doing the last couple of days Seriously though, AWESOME what an improvement Duncan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 27, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2013 Thanks Mike. It was a lot of fun reading the crazy ideas the Lunesters were coming up with! I was almost tempted to post an old photo twice to show I hadn't done anything! I've actually just ordered ten packs of plaster bandage so I can get started on the hillside proper. I still need to go and order some more wood as I've totally exhausted my supplies now. A couple of reels of masking tape wouldn't go amiss either. I noticed your viaduct perched precariously on your dining table in "Dent". You have a very understanding wife! Cheers, Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 27, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Jeff I don't know what you've been doing the last couple of days Seriously though, AWESOME what an improvement Duncan Next time Duncan, can you be a bit more positive!!!!? Lol. Thanks very much. I'll have to think up something for my next "weekend away"!! Btw - I think it was you who mentioned it previously - we've overtaken Peterborough....in a STREAK!! Jeff EDIT: Yes. Your post 3427! Edited January 27, 2013 by Physicsman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 27, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) Just an additional picture that gives a better side-indication of the valley and hill slopes. Jeff Edited January 27, 2013 by Physicsman 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 (edited) *snip* *snip* Jeff Peco Code 100? Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh! You really shouldn't put photos with that up on this thread without an OH&S warning... I thought you'd ditched the finescale, Jeff, so you could run some HD locos and stock. Some very nice work there; have you thought about what you will make the curved backscene out of, to disguise the room corner behind the viaduct? I know, I know, "Rome. A day, And all that..." But you know that the trick with this layout building caper is that sometimes you need to think twenty-seven steps ahead, so that you don't paint yourself into a corner. Or in your case, so you do! Regards Scott Edited January 27, 2013 by jukebox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelW Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 Evening Jeff, I'm back from my weekend away from the internet, and I have to say I can't see the difference in the photos you've posted. But then I do think it's cheating to make us spot the wiring changes you've spent the weekend doing in photos of the tops of the boards. Seriously, you've done a lot of work there, and all to the better. I stand by my earlier comment, the last few pictures are seriously impressive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allegheny1600 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 John - you are SO kind to me!! I really must have a look at this German layout of yours. Have you got rid of the Dent P4 item? cheers, Jeff Kindness is my middle name, ha, ha, ha!!! The Deutsche Bahn is progressing glacially as at the mo, I have my box room to clear and walls to take down, doors to move and that's before I even start decorating! So, for now, it just consists of plans and my various ramblings! As for Dent P4 - it's partly in the rafters of my good lady's shed or in the old wooden shed, fear not - one day I will resurrect it! You and others keep my interest in the S&C going too much to get rid of it! Cheers, John E. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium southern42 Posted January 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2013 Well, I'm really late on here today. So between cooking, eating, teas and coffees and a short visit from daughter, I've been doing my own lttle investgation into what trainspotters' wore in the 50s/60s with the help of members on their new RMweb thread who kindly added the colours of their trainspotters' clothing . "Did we really look like this when out trainspotting?" http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/67515-did-we-really-look-like-this-when-out-trainspotting/page-1 So Jeff, you have certainly had a triumphant day. Any trainspotters, I wonder. Looking forward to the infill and scenics. Polly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythocentric Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Hi Polly Now that brings back memories! Definitely go for that balaclava, usually in military green! My mother was a keen knitter although sometimes a bit generous with sizing. Add a pair of sleeves and she could have invented the hoodie! Don't forget the bright-red knees under those short pants on chilly winter days too! I recall colours were mostly variations on green, brown and grey which helped us blend in and made us harder for the shed forman at Lower Darwen to spot! Regards Bill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2013 Just an additional picture that gives a better side-indication of the valley and hill slopes. 100_2606.JPG Jeff After looking at this piccy I wondered if you were going to put in a Bluff headland into the main vally (like in the photos you linked to earlier) or perhaps a small spoil heap. To me the side of the valley just isn't 'in and out' enough. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Rowsley17D Posted January 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2013 Morning Jeff, some serious modelling over the weekend I see. Those pics really makes it look as though the railway is going through the landscape rather than the landscape being put around the railway. As to covering formers, on reading other threads a while ago some folks are using what I think is fine aluminum mesh. I saw some in B&Q the other week and thought how useful it could be as it could be bent into any shape you desire. Didn't make a note of the price so don't know how affordable it would be, especially as you have such a large area to cover. Hope the coaching goes OK and that your successful "students" show their gratitude once the results come through! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium southern42 Posted January 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) Hi Polly Now that brings back memories! Definitely go for that balaclava, usually in military green! My mother was a keen knitter although sometimes a bit generous with sizing. Add a pair of sleeves and she could have invented the hoodie! Don't forget the bright-red knees under those short pants on chilly winter days too! I recall colours were mostly variations on green, brown and grey which helped us blend in and made us harder for the shed forman at Lower Darwen to spot! Regards Bill The address of that particular knitting pattern company was Great West Road. I found a collection of patterns at home, yesterday in what has been our bedside cabinet - it merely functions to house the alarm clock and a candle in case of power cuts! (How proactive is that?) The cabinet was MiL's knitting/sewing cabinet before we had it and was built by Ray's grandad and was furnished with burr walnut. Thought I'd add a bit of wood interest for you, Jeff. Stuff to do now. Back some time later. Polly Edited January 28, 2013 by southern42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2013 Polly, do you need a candle in a power cut when you are asleep in bed? The worrying thing here is that I think my mum knitted me some of the balaclavas back in the '80's! Why don't we see them anymore? Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 28, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2013 Morning folks. Just a quick comment to start the day. You can't really judge the shape of the hillside that's going to come out of those formers until the "artistic" bit starts - with the bandage and filler. All I've done at the moment is provide a skeleton with a little variation in height. hopefully I'll have some more wood by next weekend so I can continue the build... The formers aren't fixed and if anybody wants to make specific suggestions, please do so. A sketched drawing would be useful to show what you mean - like Michael did in post 3470. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 28, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2013 Polly - a candle? It sounds like you're living in the time of Dickens! I like the headwear. I used to have a couple of balaclavas. My mum did a lot of knotting - her woollen "bobble hats" were great for outdoor activities such as fishing. I've never been a trainspotter, though! Andy - what's a "Bluff headland"? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2013 Polly - a candle? It sounds like you're living in the time of Dickens! Jeff Presumably Polly couldn't find/afford suitable oil lamps (and in any case we don't keep ours in the bedroom, they're on the landing and dining room window sills - wicks trimmed, wells filled and ready to go if ever needed). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2013 Andy - what's a "Bluff headland"? Jeff In the context I want here, it's one of those bits of 'hill' that sticks out into the valley from one side. They tend to have a flatish top. The were visable in that excellent shot pages ago! I here that there is a nationwide shortage of ply and plaster bandages at the minute! Andy (investigating hanging basket liners and bogie pivots!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 28, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2013 Presumably Polly couldn't find/afford suitable oil lamps (and in any case we don't keep ours in the bedroom, they're on the landing and dining room window sills - wicks trimmed, wells filled and ready to go if ever needed). Mike, what oil do you have in them please? Paraffin smells so bad when it's burnt. I have several lamps that would be quite useful to have ready to go. Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 28, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28, 2013 Mike, what oil do you have in them please? Paraffin smells so bad when it's burnt. I have several lamps that would be quite useful to have ready to go. Andy You must use real lamp oil Andy in order to avoid the smell - it can be found but it tends to be expensive unless you can find a shop which specialises in oil lamps in an area where they are still likely to be in everyday use. We found exactly such a shop - a real ironmonger in the old-fashioned sense - in Kington some years ago and were able to get a replacement chimney for one of our lamps as well as the correct size wicks, and just down the road from a bookshop with an excellent section of railway & industrial history books - heaven! I was told years ago that you can reduce the smell with paraffin if you add camphor to it but it didn't seem to work all that well (I tried it on an old oil lit bicycle lamp so not in the house; maybe the trick is to get the proportions exactly right? The other important thing of course is to make sure the wick is properly trimmed and thoroughly soaked in lamp oil as well as setting it to the correct height - a bit of trial and error with the setting I think as it's a pay off between amount of light and the point at which the flame can start smoking noticeably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted January 28, 2013 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28, 2013 (edited) Amazing the kind of stuff that gets discussed on here! No wonder we've reached 3600 posts!! The paraffin (alkane) hydrocarbon family tend to produce very yellow, smoky flames with a lot of soot. The soot is a result of incomplete combustion, but when incandescent does emit a fair amount of light. The key is to get just the right amount of oxygen to the paraffin soaked in the wick. I used to use a couple of paraffin oil lamps in my den, as a kid. We got them from an old hardware store - and me and my mates were quite happy with the light AND the smell. But it wasn't a good idea in a very enclosed space and my parents went ballistic when they found out, pointing out the fire risk. A good stand by, though. I last remember using one in the black-outs of the 3-day week in 1973. Memories, memories.... Now how the hell have we got from valleys and landscaping to paraffin lamps? Lol!! Jeff Edited January 28, 2013 by Physicsman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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