MartinWales Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) Just won a joblot of Finescale items including MJT items Alan Gibson hornblocks and ply sleepers for a bargain 99p+postage! Result! And listed in wrong category too....... Edited May 2, 2016 by MartinWales 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2016 3 roy gould vga van kits for £21 to go with the other two I won for a tenner so just over £30 for five wagons 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 3 roy gould vga van kits for £21 to go with the other two I won for a tenner so just over £30 for five wagons I didn't know those things still existed. I remember people got quite excited about them when they were produced in the mid-1980s. Even Mainly Trains stocked them for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted May 2, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2016 I only find them on ebay tbh I know the Bachmann one is better but there also more expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Just had comfirmation from my daughter,That a bag of odds and sods I bought for £25, which included a few taps and dies, nuts screws and washers, three slaters bogie wheels and a few other bits including 2 motors and gearboxes. One I will keep, but the other I thought was special which is why I bid, turns out to be a RG7. That will more than cover a new wagon kit and I geta free motor and bits and bobs.. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2016 Just had comfirmation from my daughter,That a bag of odds and sods I bought for £25, which included a few taps and dies, nuts screws and washers, three slaters bogie wheels and a few other bits including 2 motors and gearboxes. One I will keep, but the other I thought was special which is why I bid, turns out to be a RG7. That will more than cover a new wagon kit and I geta free motor and bits and bobs.. Obviously Horsetan missed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 3, 2016 I didn't know those things still existed. I remember people got quite excited about them when they were produced in the mid-1980s. Even Mainly Trains stocked them for a while. I've got one here, somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) I only find them on ebay tbh I know the Bachmann one is better but there also more expensive There was apparently some sort of delay at the time when they were first produced. The joke back then was that VGA = Vehicle Gone Astray. Obviously Horsetan missed it! I don't do 7mm. On the other hand, it might have been possible to cram the motor barrel into a 4mm diesel...... Edited May 3, 2016 by Horsetan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Richard_A Posted May 3, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 3, 2016 I've got one here, somewhere! well if you want rid of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 4, 2016 Share Posted May 4, 2016 Judith Edge Clayton kit has just been shoved into my hands. Contents very nice. Didn't know that the design was done 10 years ago this year. Might be able to use Hornby oval sprung buffers instead of the AGW ones suggested in the instructions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Irwell Press Book Of The Black Fives, part 5 (the Caprottis and the Stephenson). £19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted May 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 9, 2016 Having seen your last few purchases Ivan, I'd love to see your train set when it's built, random and esoteric spring to mind! Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 ...., random and esoteric spring to mind!. Who said I was going to have a train set? I just like experimenting by building. Or is that the other way round? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Who said I was going to have a train set? I just like experimenting by building. Or is that the other way round? You are not alone. Though you do restrict yourself by selecting one scale. I was also tempted by the Clayton ... and placed a bid ... then remembered that in a big trunk not too far away I already have one gathering the dust of time. (just requires wheels, motor, gearbox and most importantly the incentive .... don't like beetles. But do love JE kits ... one day .... but there is always something better to build from the range) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 You are not alone. Though you do restrict yourself by selecting one scale. I do also have a bit of 3.5mm scale for P87 experimentation. I was also tempted by the Clayton ... and placed a bid ... then remembered that in a big trunk not too far away I already have one gathering the dust of time..... But do love JE kits ... ) It's got to be more entertaining than the Heljan effort, and any mistakes will be all your own work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Can I say its not just on eBay, shows are a good source of bargains especially at the club sale stands. 2 years ago I bought an un-built Craftsman kit complete with wheels and motor for less that the cost of the Markit wheels and this year found one steal and another good buy, even last year at Expo EM a 3F kit of parts for chassis and motor which no body seemed to want (that was the Sunday afternoon) and a couple of years back I seem to remember a great buy at Alley Pally. No doubt car boot sales are also good stamping grounds, but I never go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 No doubt car boot sales are also good stamping grounds, but I never go Used to go for Sunday entertainment - and friends are really into auctions and car booting. Never have seen anything "model railway" worth buying or bidding on. The auction hoses are wise to the "individual" nature of such items and now sell these at specialist auctions. Most car boot sales now seem to be full of dubious traders selling "off the back of a lorry white van along with assorted iffy imports. You always had to be there very early to find anything genuinely "antique". We were at an auction last week and it was just the usual sad house clearance of once prized possessions, now worthless junk, that should have been added to landfill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 .... shows are a good source of bargains especially at the club sale stands. .... There has been quite a bit of complaint in recent years that club sales tend to get hoovered up by people whose sole aim is to resell on eBay at massive profit. There is, however, one show trader who always seems to have something tempting on display, and that's Steam Age. They've always been able to provide all sorts of interesting secondhand kits for general delectation, and their prices are not too terrible. Some of the kits already have the right wheels included. In years gone by, I've had a Brassmasters Black Five (with P4 Ultrascales thrown in) for £82, and a SEF "Schools" for £60. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted May 10, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 10, 2016 There has been quite a bit of complaint in recent years that club sales tend to get hoovered up by people whose sole aim is to resell on eBay at massive profit. There is, however, one show trader who always seems to have something tempting on display, and that's Steam Age. They've always been able to provide all sorts of interesting secondhand kits for general delectation, and their prices are not too terrible. Some of the kits already have the right wheels included. In years gone by, I've had a Brassmasters Black Five (with P4 Ultrascales thrown in) for £82, and a SEF "Schools" for £60. If that's the same person I'm thinking of then I was a bit miffed a couple of years back at Expo EM to see him coming down the stairs from the s/h stand (before the show had opened) with a large box of goodies - which promptly ended up on his own stand at suitably inflated prices. It may have been completely innocent, but comments from others "in the know" suggest otherwise.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenton Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 If that's the same person I'm thinking of then I was a bit miffed a couple of years back at Expo EM to see him coming down the stairs from the s/h stand (before the show had opened) with a large box of goodies - which promptly ended up on his own stand at suitably inflated prices. It may have been completely innocent, but comments from others "in the know" suggest otherwise.... But isn't that all that business is about? Buy at one price from another seller, add a mark-up and sell at the inflated price. I don't see a problem as long as the person selling on the s/h stand received their asking price. The only prolem is that the trader may have gained early/priority access. (just like the exhibitors might get, and little different than the first in the queue when the flood gates open) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 ...But isn't that all that business is about? Arguably, it's the only thing that business is about! ....The only problem is that the trader may have gained early/priority access. (just like the exhibitors might get, and little different than the first in the queue when the flood gates open) Insider dealing / trading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold RedgateModels Posted May 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 10, 2016 The only problem is that the trader may have gained early/priority access. (just like the exhibitors might get, and little different than the first in the queue when the flood gates open) You will be pleased to know that at Wycrail you pay a premium for buying from the club stand before show opening - which I was happy to do a few years back with a bargain pair of Silver Seal Triang locos, that yes, I fixed and sold on for a healthy profit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted May 12, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2016 I used to see it with the now deceased Ally Pally Bachmann scrum. Items on the table when doors opened were bought en-masse and by the time I got home late in the afternoon the very same items (failing to mention the fact they were returns but with the label clearly ripped off) were on Ebay and near new cost prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinWales Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 C'mon guys, let's face it! I have been present at a show close to the secondhand stand, where I was making a purchase or three, when a trader came up and bought an eyewatering total of new or nearly new items. Needless to say that these were then sold on at a considerable saving over the trade price. It's supply and demand! Similarly some years ago on the secondhand stand at Expo EM North, one chap was taking the items off the table just as soon as I was putting them out-between him and his friend, they went away having spent close to £1000 between them! That's being in the right place at the right time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 But isn't that all that business is about? Buy at one price from another seller, add a mark-up and sell at the inflated price. I don't see a problem as long as the person selling on the s/h stand received their asking price. The only prolem is that the trader may have gained early/priority access. (just like the exhibitors might get, and little different than the first in the queue when the flood gates open) I know of a local jumble sale close to where I used to live where certain traders are allowed to browse the night before, I guess they get first pick and pay a premium where as on the day most items are very cheap, even then I think during the day car boot sellers buy in bulk cheaply. Still as all the items are donated the organisers see a profit plus make on the refreshments. As for trade buying from club stands that's a difficult one, If I were a seller I would want to under cut the traders slightly, but not enough for traders to be able to re-sell at a profit, as a buyer I would like to buy as cheaply as possible. The show a couple of weeks ago was a one day show and I think traders were busy finishing off their display and in the past have had a couple of good buys from them owing to their bulk of sales being RTR. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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