Guest jim s-w Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 What wheels did you use on the F10? I wasn't happy with the Keilcraft ones and ended up with their Foden wheels for the back and for the front, turning the original ones down in the drill to improve the profile, fitting them back to front and drilling the centre boss to represent the Volvo nut ring. Tedious and not entirely successful! Hiya The rear wheels are the ones from the kit with an etched ring of nuts added too it. I just had a spare in my box, I think they came off a brassmasters etch of some description. Might we worth a little etch for these parts perhaps? The front wheels are from Base Toys. HTH Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Some lovely models made from apparently unpromising toys here! This thread reminds me that I must act on the plans I have for an old Husky* Commer van, which is so close to HO that it would be criminal not to have a go... *Remember them? Pre-Corgi, sold in Woolworths** **Remember them, too? That boarded-up shop in your local Hight St, with "Poundsaver opening soon" in the window Hi Steve I thought they were close to OO? What sort of timespan did these cover? Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hi Steve I thought they were close to OO? What sort of timespan did these cover? Cheers Jim They were replaced by the Dodge S56 in about 1981. RM used them a fair bit and Rail Express Parcels were still using them in the late 80s, can't remember when that part of the business finished but it would have been about '87. I've always been curious about the Husky one, it looks about right for OO but a thread on the old site suggested it was a bit small. There is another version available (continental manufacturer, don't know which one) which is seemingly closer to 4mm but it always looked too big to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Hi Steve I thought they (Husky Commers) were close to OO? What sort of timespan did these cover? Cheers Jim Hi Jim As Rangers says, they're good for about 15 years up to 1980-ish (later if you want a battered one, of course!), but they're also a little small for OO/P4. I'd put them at roughly 1:84, based purely on waving a ruler at them and making educated guesses about the prototype. Of course, when you're talking crude-ish lumps of die-cast metal, you can measure length, width and height, and get 3 different scales! Anyhow, I've got a couple of them, along with an old Matchbox/Lesney Ford Thames which seems around the same scale as the Commer. I'll pop some pictures up on the other vehicle thread ASAP - it might give me the impetus to do something with them. Funnily, I spotted one of the Mercedes minibuses at a swapmeet the other week (just like your yellow one posted earlier) and thought it too small for HO - just goes to show that the eye is easily deceived! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 quote name='Steve K' date='19 January 2010 - 14:37 ' timestamp='1263911846' post='68945'] Hi Jim As Rangers says, they're good for about 15 years up to 1980-ish (later if you want a battered one, of course!), but they're also a little small for OO/P4. I'd put them at roughly 1:84, based purely on waving a ruler at them and making educated guesses about the prototype. Of course, when you're talking crude-ish lumps of die-cast metal, you can measure length, width and height, and get 3 different scales! Anyhow, I've got a couple of them, along with an old Matchbox/Lesney Ford Thames which seems around the same scale as the Commer. I'll pop some pictures up on the other vehicle thread ASAP - it might give me the impetus to do something with them. Funnily, I spotted one of the Mercedes minibuses at a swapmeet the other week (just like your yellow one posted earlier) and thought it too small for HO - just goes to show that the eye is easily deceived! Just found my old Huskey Commer Walkthru van along with the later Efsi version. Both based on the 30cwt (smallest) model. Excuse the paintjob on the Huskey, did it when still at school (retiring soon, don't the years go quick) It is marked by myself on the bottom 1/81 scale from years ago. The Efsi one is very close to 1/76 scale and would look OK with the wheels changed. Alongside one I made earlier, grafting the front of a Commer by Efsi to a Body of a Corgi BRS Noddy van to produce a 3ton version. [ Merfyn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 That's the one, Merfyn! Both of mine are still in the sickly green livery with bright red doors. They did do a red van, too (hence the doors, I guess...), but I've not spotted one. As your pictures show, the Husky is rather small for OO, but that's fine, because my plans - such as they are - are for late 60s/early 70s HO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 19, 2010 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Thanks for the info Chaps. I think a battered one would go down quite well. Some of the vans delivering stuff to the Bull ring markets were somewhat less than modern! If I was modelling an earlier time I could convert one into a WMPTE minibus too. Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 The Efsi is modelled on the petrol engined version, hence the flat front. The diesel had the stepped out bonnet. The rear wheelarch could do with filing down and adding back lower down if you do the twin rear axle version. I like that 3 ton conversion - neat! Late on (mid '70s?) these vans were painted in white/Rail Blue, with a giant white double-arrow on the blue section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted January 20, 2010 Share Posted January 20, 2010 The Efsi is modelled on the petrol engined version, hence the flat front. The diesel had the stepped out bonnet. The rear wheelarch could do with filing down and adding back lower down if you do the twin rear axle version. I like that 3 ton conversion - neat! Late on (mid '70s?) these vans were painted in white/Rail Blue, with a giant white double-arrow on the blue section. Bernard, that's exactly what is happening to that one, also note the filler on the rear as the rounded rear corners need squaring off before modeling the roller shutter doors. Merfyn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 There's a couple of large vans in that livery in a 1980 shot of Spalding Station mentioned in the Base Toys thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 There's a couple of large vans in that livery in a 1980 shot of Spalding Station mentioned in the Base Toys thread Those two are different, one is a standard height, the other the high roof version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 There's a couple of large vans in that livery in a 1980 shot of Spalding Station mentioned in the Base Toys thread I almost didn't notice the vans, as I was playing "spot the car"! Quite a selection of vehicles rarely seen these days. I make it: 1100 (or 1300?), Kadett, MkII Escort, Triumph 2000, 1100, Marina, Sunny?, P6, Avenger estate, P4, Viva, 1100, Mini, MkI Granny, and something hard to fathom at the end - MkIII Cortina, Marina? Can't tell... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I'm doubtful on the 'Sunny' as it seems too big compared to the Marina. Not that I've got an alternative to offer at the moment; I don't think it's from any of the 'big four' UK based groups of the time, but the rear bumper is quite large and with plastic end caps so it's got to have been be fairly new in 1980. I think the car at the far right may be an FE Victor or Ventora (1972-6). Had the back been visible it would have been clear. No less than three late 1100/1300s - another 5 years of tin-worm would have seen them off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I'm doubtful on the 'Sunny' as it seems too big compared to the Marina. Not that I've got an alternative to offer at the moment; I don't think it's from any of the 'big four' UK based groups of the time, but the rear bumper is quite large and with plastic end caps so it's got to have been be fairly new in 1980. I think the car at the far right may be an FE Victor or Ventora (1972-6). Had the back been visible it would have been clear. No less than three late 1100/1300s - another 5 years of tin-worm would have seen them off! I'd say the white one on the end was another Mk1 Granada/ Consul, deduced from the similarity of the one next to it, particularly the back wheelarches, rear door/ window. The Red one looks like a Mazda but I can't say which model I'm thinking of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 It could be another Granada. Again a sight of the back would have settled it. Unfortunately the picture is near the limit of legibility at that distance. I could mention that the Granada has a division in the rear window while the FE does not but, to be honest, it's not possible to make the division out on the one we can clearly see IS a Granada! If that other mystery car is a Mazda, the 323 would be around the size of the Marina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry J Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 The red car on the end is an early Mazda 626... about the same size as a Cortina Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hi All I thought a quick explanation of how I paint wheels might be helpful so Before we start it's important to understand you must only do one side at a time and that the wheel must be kept horizontal while it dries. As wheels rotate it doesn't look right if they end up with vertical streaks! 1 - start point. Rim colour and black tyre. 2 - paint the wheel with neat thinners. Then use a dark grey to paint round the center of the tyre (not the inside of the tyre). I use Humbrol 67 3 - paint the wheel hub a sludgy brown. (I use Revell 84). I also paint the inside of the tyre with the same colour. By working wet in wet and being sparing with the paint it will all blend together as it dries. 4 - up until now I have been thinking of a normal tyre on a normal road. However it pays to think about what the vehicle does and the effect that will have on the tyres. For my tippler I assumed it spends a fair amount of time in a muddy environment so i have painted a thin ring of pale brown (humbrol 110) around the outside of the wheel. The mud will normally wear off around the outer edge so running a cotton bud around the outside of the tyre will help give this effect. You might want to consider doing the same with white if your layout is set in winter to represent the salt build up you can get. 5 - finally the tyre and wheel may look a bit glossy. A quick spray of matt varnish and you are done. HTH Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 The red car on the end is an early Mazda 626... about the same size as a Cortina That fits! It would be the 1979-83 model. On checking it up on wiki I found it said that "The passenger cabin, and therefore the doors are shared with the contemporary 323, a design feature that lasted into the mid 1980s for both car designs." a trick copied by the Maestro-Montego. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve K Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 I thought a quick explanation of how I paint wheels might be helpful... HTH Jim Thanks for the useful tips - very simple, yet effective! PS Sorry for sidetracking the thread... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 PS Sorry for sidetracking the thread... Not at all Steve B) Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 25, 2010 Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hi All Been rummaging again and found this! the white one is from a Knightwing kit and is a tad to big for 4mm scale (being 1;72 scale not 1:76.2) while the red one is another less than a quid Corgi toy. While the cab sits very high and the chassis is rubbish the cab itself is pretty much the same size as the knightwing one if not a tiny bit smaller. Another one for the to do pile! Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 26, 2010 Share Posted January 26, 2010 Just shows what you can do when you "p i m p" a Knightwing, there Jim. Did you use nail varnish for the Globetrotter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 LOL No, thats how it fell out of the packet. Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 27, 2010 Share Posted January 27, 2010 Hi All As I mentioned earlier in the thread I thought the oxford Capri and escort would look better with TPM wheels. The photoshop mockup convinced me to get an order in to Bernard so that I could try it out for real. Happily while the oxford cars use axles the TPM wheels dont and have a triangular back to them. The way Oxford have mounted the wheels means the new ones can be just glued in place. Simples! Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jim s-w Posted January 28, 2010 Share Posted January 28, 2010 Hi All As I have been feeling a bit under the weather this week I fancied a simple little project to while away the evening. So having a couple of Base toys trailers lying around I combined the two to make one longer trailer. Extra Details from microstrip except the landing legs which came from a US supplier (Appologies but I cant remember their name) Cheers Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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