RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted August 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: 4F 44444! And I'm fairly sure that was the only example of five digits the same. Terry Essery, Saltley Firing Days, has a tale of the confusion caused when his driver prepared 44404 by mistake for 44004. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted August 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Tony Wright said: I've never thought in that way Tony, and I'm often 'shallow'. On 'fudging' together a 'Jubilee' (many, many years ago), I thought of making it into DE ROBECK (the longest consecutive number?), and a mate once made a model of 4F 44444! Regards, Tony. There was also an ex L & Y 0-6-0 (Class 11) which was number 12345 during LMS days. I don't recall hearing or seeing any other UK main line steam examples with 5 consecutive numbers. I haven't looked at things like diesels and DMUs. In reverse, I can offer 43210 and 65432, which were an ex MR 3F and a J15. I have no idea why but removing numbers from a transfer sheet in a block has always appealed more than removing random ones from up and down the line. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 23, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2022 I suppose that, in TOPS diesel numbering, you could theoretically have 66666 now that gaps after the class designation seem to have fallen out of favour. No doubt it would acquire a reputation as a bit of a beast, though. Hat, coat, etc.... John 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dunsignalling said: I suppose that, in TOPS diesel numbering, you could theoretically have 66666 now that gaps after the class designation seem to have fallen out of favour. No doubt it would acquire a reputation as a bit of a beast, though. Hat, coat, etc.... John Nottingham City Transport had a fairly late model Leyland Atlantean with several novel and experimental features, fleet no. 666, apparently it wasn't unknown for people to refuse to travel on it! It's currently preserved at Ruddington. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium t-b-g Posted August 23, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Compound2632 said: And I'm fairly sure that was the only example of five digits the same. Terry Essery, Saltley Firing Days, has a tale of the confusion caused when his driver prepared 44404 by mistake for 44004. You could have 11111, which was an L & Y 4-6-4T, or an 04 diesel shunter depending on your period. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 I have quite a list of loco kits for sale on behalf of a modeller who (because of infirmity) will never ever build them, unfortunately. 10% of all proceeds will go to CRUK. They are....... Alan Gibson 4m21 LMS (ex-MR 2P 4-4-0) Gibson wheels motor/gears included £60.00 Alan Gibson LMS (ex-MR) 2F 0-6-0 (1142) Gibson wheels included £50.00 Alan Gibson LMS (ex-MR 2F 0-6-0 ('M') Gibson wheels included £40.00 Alexander Models Cl. 15 BTH Type 1 Diesel wheels/gears/motor included £50.00 Comet/Airfix A102 GWR 'Castle' 4-6-0 Airfix body, Comet frames, DJH motor/gearbox Ultrascale wheels, WM Hawksworth tender £75.00 Compass Models LMS Stanier 0-4-4T Romford drivers, Gibson bogie wheels included £40.00 Connoisseurs Choice LMS (ex-LNWR) 'Precedent' 2-4-0 £40.00 Cotswold GWR Hawksworth tender £25.00 Craftsman LK 15 BR Cl. O2 0-4-0 diesel shunter motor/gears/Romfords included £40.00 Falcon Brass LK161 GWR 90XX 'Dukedog' 4-4-0 £30.00 GEM LMS (ex-LNWR) 4-4-2T Bogie/pony wheels included £30.00 GEM LMS (ex-LNWR) 'Precedent' £30.00 GEM LMS (ex-LNWR) 'Watford' 0-6-2T body only kit £25.00 GEM LMS (ex-LNWR) 'George V' 4-4-0 body/tender kit £30.00 GEM 4-4-0 chassis kit (L1 type) Romford wheels included £20.00 GEM Fowler 2-6-4T chassis kit £20.00 Gibson/Comet/Airfix LMS 2P 4-4-0 Gibson/Comet chassis parts, Airfix body, Gibson tender £50.00 Jamieson BR 80XXX 2-6-4T body kit £25.00 Jamieson LMS Ivatt 2-6-0 4MT body/tender kit £25.00 Jamieson GWR Collett 4000 gall tender kit £15.00 Jamieson LMS 0-4-4T body kit £20.00 Jamieson LMS 0-4-4T frame kit £10.00 Kingdom kits LNER J50 0-6-0T Romfords, Anchorage D11 motor/gears included £40.00 Kingdom kits Barclay 16" 0-4-0ST Anchorage DS10 motor/gears/gearbox included £40.00 K's GWR '1361' 0-6-0ST complete kit but with Romford wheels £40.00 K's LMS Fowler 2-6-2T Gibson frames £40.00 K's LMS (ex MR) 2F 0-6-0 separate etched chassis and Romford drivers £40.00 K's GWR 57XX 0-6-0PT no motor £30.00 K's GWR 'Mogul' 2-6-0 complete kit £30.00 K's GWR 45XX 2-6-2T complete kit £30.00 K's GWR 42XX/52XX/72XX 2-8-0T/2-8-2T complete kit £30.00 K's GWR '322' Beyer-Peacock 0-6-0 complete kit £30.00 K's LMS Beyer-Garratt 2-6-0 + 0-6-2 complete kit, Romford drivers included £60.00 K's LMS (ex-MR) Johnson 0-4-0T complete kit £30.00 K's LNER (ex-NER) J72 body only £25.00 K's GWR Churchward 3000 gall tender body built/painted, etched chassis (no wheels) £20.00 K's Fowler 3500 gall tender (riveted) £20.00 Mallard Models GWR Dean Goods Ultrascale wheels, Sagami motor/gearbox included £60.00 Mallard Models GWR 3000 gall tender £20.00 Mallard Models GWR 'Dukedog' Romford drivers and Mashima can motor/gears included £60.00 MTK Met Camm 2-Car DMU £40.00 MTK Derby Lightweight DMU £40.00 MTK Glos Press Steel Single car £25.00 Nu-Cast NC259 GWR (ex-TVR) 0-6-2T Romford whels and Buhler motor/gears included £50.00 Nu-Cast LMS (ex-L&Y0 2-4-2T £40.00 South Eastern Finecast F166 LNER W1 (rebuilt) part-built £50.00 Westward WK12 Rebuilt GWR Railcars 33 & 38 £40.00 Westward WK3 GWR Diesel railcars 35 & 36 £40.00 Wills Finecast GWR 'Saint' 4-6-0 loco body & tender kit £50.00 Anyone interested in any of these, please PM me. Thanks beforehand. 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) I've got 44444 in the "to do" list. Even got the SEF kit. I went for that one mainly as it is one I've got the numberplates for it. I reckon that was probably a big factor in choice a few years ago as there was only a small range of plates compared to now where you can commission which one you want. Here it is in Stockport 1950. Seems to have spent most of it's BR life in the North West and West Midlands. Photo by Ben Brooksbank https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2189845 Jason Edited August 23, 2022 by Steamport Southport 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 Thanks for all the responses to the kit list - plenty already gone! I'm sorting it out in chronological order (first come, first served), so there are bound to be disappointments. I do have one request, however. Will any correspondents please give me their full name? It could be I know you, and have sent stuff before, but it's hundreds of items I've now posted in the last few years and my memory is nearly 76 years old! Once I have addresses (and I might well have had them before), I'll send details of how to pay. Postage will be £10.00 (guaranteed/tracked delivery). Many thanks again. Tony. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted August 24, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) Sales of the kits are going very well (though I still don't know some purchasers' full names). Thanks to all buyers. I've had some rather nice locos to photograph from Geoff Haynes. Any lining, lettering, numbering and weathering is his work; he didn't build or paint them. All the above models are built in P4. This one's in O. Edited August 24, 2022 by Tony Wright to add something 21 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APOLLO Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 15 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: I've got 44444 in the "to do" list. Even got the SEF kit. I went for that one mainly as it is one I've got the numberplates for it. I reckon that was probably a big factor in choice a few years ago as there was only a small range of plates compared to now where you can commission which one you want. Here it is in Stockport 1950. Seems to have spent most of it's BR life in the North West and West Midlands. Photo by Ben Brooksbank https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2189845 Jason Last shed reported as Wigan Springs Branch, withdrawn 30/9/1963 https://railuk.info/steam/getsteam.php?row_id=9437 Brit15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john new Posted August 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2022 17 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: I've got 44444 in the "to do" list. Even got the SEF kit. I went for that one mainly as it is one I've got the numberplates for it. I reckon that was probably a big factor in choice a few years ago as there was only a small range of plates compared to now where you can commission which one you want. Here it is in Stockport 1950. Seems to have spent most of it's BR life in the North West and West Midlands. Photo by Ben Brooksbank https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2189845 Jason An appropriate loco to pose next to Arkwright shop! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 Just for readers' information......... Thanks to the generous donations of the likes of Syd (Juke), Ron Smallshire, Norman Turner and many others who've bought items off me, plus those who've put money in my collection box on the layout and at shows, I'm just about to post off a cheque to CRUK for over £800.00. Not only that, Syd's sent another box of RTR goodies (it's arrived safely, Syd - wow!), and there'll be further monies to the charity forthcoming when other items are sold. And, there's also 10% from the loco kit sales to come. This thread is full of altruistic readers! Many, many thanks. 8 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted August 24, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Tony Wright said: Sales of the kits are going very well (though I still don't know some purchasers' full names). Thanks to all buyers. I've had some rather nice locos to photograph from Geoff Haynes. Any lining, lettering, numbering and weathering is his work; he didn't build or paint them. All the above models are built in P4. This one's in O. Are these for sale? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 hours ago, rodent279 said: Are these for sale? I'm afraid not. Regards, Tony. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wright Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 Regarding donations to CRUK, I should also mention the generosity of folk who add more to the total for a job I've done or the price I put on an item for sale. Many thanks for this. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold rodent279 Posted August 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 25, 2022 14 hours ago, Tony Wright said: I'm afraid not. Regards, Tony. Shame, that Highflyer looks lovely. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted August 26, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 On 25/08/2022 at 08:01, rodent279 said: Shame, that Highflyer looks lovely. It does. It'll probably join its sibling on Ogden Fold. The P4 L&Y layout from the South Hants Society. Regards, Tony. 26 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Iain.d Posted August 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2022 A few pages back there were discussions on ‘budget’ modelling (well, I think so, but its been a long day, so who knows!) of which I’m a great fan. In my boxes of things to do are many relics and wrecks, some are from my childhood; others are things I’ve taken pity on and thought ‘I can do something with that’ and so purchased it. As I’m not in a rush to build anything for any particular reason, other than my enjoyment, I can then spend time getting the bits together so that come the time I want to rebuild it, I’ve pretty much everything to hand. In the early 90s I built, quite poorly, a fair few plastic carriage and wagon kits which I have since broken down as best I can to their component parts, cleaned up and rebuilt to a much higher standard. The cost of the bits to rebuild or upgrade the kits hasn’t been significant, so I consider this the ‘budget’ bit given the original outlay was so long ago. Below are a couple of Ian Kirk carriages – now running on MJT bogies, with new roof vents, underframe trussing from brass strip, Comet BR buffers and Comet T door handles and commode handles from .5mm wire or etched Roxey ones and a better paint job. And this week I completed the rebuild a couple of old Parkside Dundas vans – a LNER 12T Van (PC06A) and a BR 10T Meat Van (PC09). All I have upgraded are the buffer shanks (Lanarkshire Models), sprung buffer heads (Gibson), couplings (Smiths or Roxey), brake safety loops (Bill Bedford) and transfers (Cambridge Custom Transfers). I added a few details such as lamp irons, brake hoses and brake gear from staples and wire. The monetary cost would be about £5-6 per wagon. I'm not a 100% sure about the instanter couplings on the meat van, but I think that's what I can make out in the photo I used for reference. I made a conscious effort to ensure that I glued things square, minimised the gaps (or used filler if necessary) and attached things robustly. My weathering skills are improving but there’s still a lot of room for improvement. Kind regards, Iain 26 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Northmoor Posted August 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Iain.d said: I made a conscious effort to ensure that I glued things square, minimised the gaps (or used filler if necessary) and attached things robustly. My weathering skills are improving but there’s still a lot of room for improvement. Needing improvement? Well we can always improve but I have one of those Parkside NE vans which I built as a teenager and it's absolute abomination by comparison to this...... 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Northmoor said: Needing improvement? Well we can always improve but I have one of those Parkside NE vans which I built as a teenager and it's absolute abomination by comparison to this...... It's a good idea to keep a few examples of ones early efforts, the occasional look at them can be quite reassuring about ones continuing abilities.... I was always in too much of a hurry to finish things in my younger days; now I've swung too far the other way. It was necessary to blow a thin layer of dust off one "current" project last week! John 3 3 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
landscapes Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 15 hours ago, Iain.d said: A few pages back there were discussions on ‘budget’ modelling (well, I think so, but its been a long day, so who knows!) of which I’m a great fan. In my boxes of things to do are many relics and wrecks, some are from my childhood; others are things I’ve taken pity on and thought ‘I can do something with that’ and so purchased it. As I’m not in a rush to build anything for any particular reason, other than my enjoyment, I can then spend time getting the bits together so that come the time I want to rebuild it, I’ve pretty much everything to hand. In the early 90s I built, quite poorly, a fair few plastic carriage and wagon kits which I have since broken down as best I can to their component parts, cleaned up and rebuilt to a much higher standard. The cost of the bits to rebuild or upgrade the kits hasn’t been significant, so I consider this the ‘budget’ bit given the original outlay was so long ago. Below are a couple of Ian Kirk carriages – now running on MJT bogies, with new roof vents, underframe trussing from brass strip, Comet BR buffers and Comet T door handles and commode handles from .5mm wire or etched Roxey ones and a better paint job. And this week I completed the rebuild a couple of old Parkside Dundas vans – a LNER 12T Van (PC06A) and a BR 10T Meat Van (PC09). All I have upgraded are the buffer shanks (Lanarkshire Models), sprung buffer heads (Gibson), couplings (Smiths or Roxey), brake safety loops (Bill Bedford) and transfers (Cambridge Custom Transfers). I added a few details such as lamp irons, brake hoses and brake gear from staples and wire. The monetary cost would be about £5-6 per wagon. I'm not a 100% sure about the instanter couplings on the meat van, but I think that's what I can make out in the photo I used for reference. I made a conscious effort to ensure that I glued things square, minimised the gaps (or used filler if necessary) and attached things robustly. My weathering skills are improving but there’s still a lot of room for improvement. Kind regards, Iain Hi lovely work, would look good on any layout. may I ask did you fit the D shape door handles to the two cartridges and if so where did you purchase them? Regards David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted August 27, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2022 Continuing with 'Budget Modelling'. I've now complete my work on two Hornby Stanier Fives. I've effectively made two-from-four, all bought cheaply off eBay (not by me, by the way). I ended up with three good bodies and two good chassis (the remains can be used for spares). Here's the latest.............. The body on this example was OK, but its chassis had its motion falling apart. All I've done is to swap chassis and detail/weather the body (I haven't even changed its identity). Quite how a Kingmoor-allocated Black Five, very late in its life, has found its way on to a Kings Lynn-Nottingham service on M&GNR metals is a question for students of altered history, but I like it. All my findings/conclusions will be published in BRM before long. 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Iain.d Posted August 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 27, 2022 7 hours ago, landscapes said: Hi lovely work, would look good on any layout. may I ask did you fit the D shape door handles to the two cartridges and if so where did you purchase them? Regards David Hi David, Thanks for your kind words. I did fit the D shape commode handles, they're from Roxey Mouldings Part No 4A120. Kind regards, Iain 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony Wright Posted August 27, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 27, 2022 Even though I'm 'retired', I still think I have the 'best job in the world'. A 'job' which takes me, along with good friends, to see and photograph some outstanding models and layouts. To call which follows a 'layout' is a bit of a misnomer, other than to say it's a 'layout in a garden'............. All O Gauge excellence. I hope to do a write-up on it for BRM. 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 On 24/08/2022 at 11:09, Tony Wright said: Sales of the kits are going very well (though I still don't know some purchasers' full names). Thanks to all buyers. I've had some rather nice locos to photograph from Geoff Haynes. Any lining, lettering, numbering and weathering is his work; he didn't build or paint them. All the above models are built in P4. This one's in O. Can I asķ what kit makes those L&Y locos are? I presume the top 2 are Craftsman but I can't figure out the bottom 2. Excellent work! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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