jukebox Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Great idea, Mike - this would work very well for my layout, too. Can you elaborate on the spigot - what did you make it from, and how was it attached to the wagon underside? Cheers Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2017 Fabulous stuff Mike, and thanks for showing us those pictures of your amazing Railway Room. One question, where's the door ? ? ? Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Great idea, Mike - this would work very well for my layout, too. Can you elaborate on the spigot - what did you make it from, and how was it attached to the wagon underside? Cheers Scott Hi Scott, Its just 3mm plastic tube and a hole drilled in the underside to push it into, most are not even glued in as the fit is tight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 15, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 15, 2017 Hi Mike Just to join in with the "Wow, wot a good idea". As an added thought, on fitted wagons you could solder some bent brass rod to represent the vacuum or air pipes to your coupling. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Fabulous stuff Mike, and thanks for showing us those pictures of your amazing Railway Room. One question, where's the door ? ? ? Dave. Hi Dave, I can see your dilemma! The entrance is through the garage which is arrowed 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Looks like a good idea and probably easier to uncouple intentionally than the 'normal' tension couplings - get it patented! Cheers, Peter Hi Peter, Yes uncoupling is as simple as lifting one end - hence the no shunting aspect. As for a patent I think its a good idea but doubt I could afford to apply, its probably thousands of ££££££££££££! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brighton_JunctionLNER Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Hello Mike, is it?I stumbled across this thread a couple of days ago and have spent it reading it from start to finish. ITS AMAZING, although i model the ex-GNR (LNER) in the 30s this layout is wonderful and your skills are equally wonderful. Good on you for everything you have done, the layout looks superb and what a man cave you have there!all the best Jesse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Hello Mike, is it? I stumbled across this thread a couple of days ago and have spent it reading it from start to finish. ITS AMAZING, although i model the ex-GNR (LNER) in the 30s this layout is wonderful and your skills are equally wonderful. Good on you for everything you have done, the layout looks superb and what a man cave you have there! all the best Jesse Hi Jesse, Welcome to Dent I hope you continue to enjoy the journey. Most of the major jobs are done now but there are still many detailing jobs to tackle which will keep me occupied, I'm not one for sitting down watching the trains nice though they are, I'm always looking for something else to do or improve upon - so watch this space ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Hi Jesse, Welcome to Dent I hope you continue to enjoy the journey. Most of the major jobs are done now but there are still many detailing jobs to tackle which will keep me occupied, I'm not one for sitting down watching the trains nice though they are, I'm always looking for something else to do or improve upon - so watch this space ! Or the bit behind you for the rest of the Line to join up with young Jeff / Physicsman / KL2? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted May 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2017 Or the bit behind you for the rest of the Line to join up with young Jeff / Physicsman / KL2? Yes Andy, the walling is now just over half way from Kirkby Luneside to Dent... I'll be coming through that door in a month or so! Nice job on the couplings, Mike. Jeff 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 21, 2017 Author Share Posted May 21, 2017 Hi all, I went to the LYDCC exhibition yesterday held in the Manchester Museum of Transport, good show with good trade support and I picked up a new addition to the fleet... A nice looking Hornby 8F with a flush tender for a change, its also got the star on the cab for higher speed running. These photos are of the loco' as bought and although there are no detail additions e.g. crew, lamps etc. I got tempted... The BG in the siding is an on-line purchase I received this week, its hard to tell but its in SR livery I thought it prudent to give 48062 and the Anhydrites another run around before detailing so here are a series of shots Once again the Anhydrites performed faultlessly, I am currently regularising the weights on the TTA tank rake to ensure a similar faultless performance....................I hope! That's it for now guys. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 That's a good purchase Mike, cracking Loco mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 Hi all, I went to the LYDCC exhibition yesterday held in the Manchester Museum of Transport, good show with good trade support and I picked up a new addition to the fleet... 2017-05-21 09.03.21.jpg A nice looking Hornby 8F with a flush tender for a change, its also got the star on the cab for higher speed running. 'scuse my ignorance Mike, can you enlighten us more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) Hi Mick The white star on the side of an 8F meant it could go faster as Mike has mentioned. To enable it to do so the wheels and valve gear had been properly balanced, this prevented it from shaking its self to bits when it broke into a trot, still couldn't manage a canter let alone a gallop. Edit, With them being balanced the hammer blow to the track was less so they didn't smash that to bits as well when jogging along. Was jogging a term used back in steam days or was it something from the 70s? Edited May 21, 2017 by Clive Mortimore 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted May 21, 2017 Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) Hi Mick The white star on the side of an 8F meant it could go faster as Mike has mentioned. To enable it to do so the wheels and valve gear had been properly balanced, this prevented it from shaking its self to bits when it broke into a trot, still couldn't manage a canter let alone a gallop. Edit, With them being balanced the hammer blow to the track was less so they didn't smash that to bits as well when jogging along. Was jogging a term used back in steam days or was it something from the 70s? When you say faster, what sort of speed?, what was classed as being normal speed? I'm only used to the race horses on the ECML Edit: jogging as a word was used in 60s as our physical education teacher used to say we are going to jog round this road and that road and come back here while he rode his bike Edited May 21, 2017 by Donington Road 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted May 21, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) When you say faster, what sort of speed?, what was classed as being normal speed? I'm only used to the race horses on the ECML Edit: jogging as a word was used in 60s as our physical education teacher used to say we are going to jog round this road and that road and come back here while he rode his bike Hi Mick I don't have that much on LMS locos, Brian Haresnape's book Stanier Locomotives states "fast freight duties". This must mean fitted and partially fitted freights, a class 4 train was timed at 55 mph in the 1964 LMR Train Loads book, 50 mph for a class 5 and 45 for a class 6. The 1957 and 1964 Freight Loads books I have for the LMR don't even mention them. The passenger loads book states that 8Fs should not be used for passenger trains. Edited May 21, 2017 by Clive Mortimore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Thanks must go to Clive for stepping in with much more knowledge than I can muster on Mick's question, all I knew was several of the class had their 'running gear' balance finely tuned. As an aside balance is a very important feature in any form of power, when I was an apprentice at Derby Loco' we had an 'Iron Fairy' road crane (remember them) in for repair with a faulty prop-shaft from the donkey engine which powered the crane operation only, the guru's in the Millwrights shop decided they would remove the universal joints and fit them to a new shaft they manufactured from steel tube, we fitted this and it lasted less than 5 minutes completely destroying itself! They had another go with a solid 2.5" steel bar again in no time at all it threw the universal joints from the weld! At this point they gave up and outsourced the job to a road transport specialist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 I do like this one, Mike - loads of atmosphere! (sorry, can't seem to make it smaller now I've linked to it...) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donington Road Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 (edited) Hi Mick I don't have that much on LMS locos, Brian Haresnape's book Stanier Locomotives states "fast freight duties". This must mean fitted and partially fitted freights, a class 4 train was timed at 55 mph in the 1964 LMR Train Loads book, 50 mph for a class 5 and 45 for a class 6. The 1957 and 1964 Freight Loads books I have for the LMR don't even mention them. The passenger loads book states that 8Fs should not be used for passenger trains. Thanks Clive and Mike. I guess from the quantity of 8F's built that they were not that bad performers at any kind of duty. I have searched around 'nternet for more info of how many were graced with the white star but have not found much. Questions I was thinking of were, how many, were they awarded the star permanently or did they lose it as they became rough-riders, were they a special build when new. Maybe it was just the go-faster-boy-racer motif of the day slapped on an old banger and rostered with a couple of chav's for the day. Edited May 22, 2017 by Donington Road 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 22, 2017 Author Share Posted May 22, 2017 Not sure but I think it was a BR modification to accelerate certain services. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 Hi all, Following a week or more of trials I'm pleased to say my coupling design applied to the Anhydrite rake has proved absolutely faultless, no derailments at all ..... so far! Now I am carrying out the same operation on my TTA tank rake which the couplings were done last week but still had the odd derailment, next job was to weight each wagon to approximately 50gram which I'm now doing, pic's will follow later. I'll be another year older on Tuesday and had 3 friends round for our usual Friday running session last night and the mad lot bought a selection of wagons and a Hornby 'City of Nottingham' as a birthday gift totally unexpectedly I have to say but much appreciated guys, many thanks indeed. (My official birthday will be in November by the way). Oh well back to the TTA's! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Hi Mate, I'm looking forward to to the next set of Pics, inc CoN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 Hi all, Finished the TTA tank conversions and will thoroughly test them out tomorrow. Apart from the bespoke couplings which have been featured previously the other mod's were as follows... A 10mtr roll of 'Antique' window lead strip will last me a lifetime. The underside of the TTA showing the bespoke couplings already fitted. Removal of the tank body finds numerous areas which can easily have additional weight added. Measuring the suitable sections a series of lead strip is cut and shaped to suit. The inside of the chassis has now been completed. cont/... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted May 27, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 27, 2017 Glad to hear the couplings are working well. If you can get them to work for a week on your helices, they should work a treat when just on the flat. And happy forthcoming birthday. I hope you get lots of relevant pressies ("oh no, not socks - again!!") Jeff ps. Scott has posted a fetching pic of one half of AbFab on KL2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted May 27, 2017 Author Share Posted May 27, 2017 The underside of the chassis also offers weighting possibilities. To ensure I don't go overboard I am applying a strip to the central area only, I can always add more if required. I found the couplings had far too much movement so decided to restrict this by adding 'stops' either side. Paint up the white areas with some acrylic matt black and they are now all ready for that impending test run tomorrow. that's it for now. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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