RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 9, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 9, 2017 Hi Mike, I've given a LIKE for the above post, even though there is a Picture of a Deltic included, hahhah Where the heck did you put all the Stock whilst cleaning the Storage Yard mate? I bet he put them back in their boxes, unlike me (and you if i recall) who has thrown them away. :nono: 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 I bet he put them back in their boxes, unlike me (and you if i recall) who has thrown them away. :nono: I do keep the Loco and Coach boxes, but with about 150 wagons, even if I wanted to find the right box, it would take for ever, hahah 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gismorail Posted July 9, 2017 Share Posted July 9, 2017 Hi all, Hopefully this will be the final update without any trains running! So far I have cleaned all the track by hand with Isopropanol and following this mammoth undertaking my thoughts were along the lines (no pun intended) of 'never again' and therefore my decision is most definitely never again. I made some enquiries regarding a mechanical means and having tried various options and found all of them so far to be pretty useless I was directed to the CMX unit from the USA. Needless to say I tried the usual UK options without success so had to order direct and the photo below shows it in action. 2017-07-09 19.14.20.jpg My version of the Network Rail weedkiller! 2017-07-09 19.14.38.jpg Now remember I have just about done myself in cleaning the track and low and behold its still dirty, but I have to say it certainly works and works very well, probably one of my better purchases it must be said. Its pretty expensive at $175 (£135) and in addition to the cost there is Import Duty of £37.00 to add - which I was oblivious to - AAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!! The whole of this week while I was off work was taken up with cleaning all the rolling stock wheels and re-setting all back-to-back's to 14.5mm, you really don't want to know how many there are because if you do you may all think I'm as mad a Jeff (KL2) the DAS king! Still the mundane make men of us, that's what I tell myself. To finish here are some shots of the current situation... 2017-07-09 19.12.26.jpg 2017-07-09 19.12.50.jpg 2017-07-09 19.13.18.jpg 2017-07-09 19.13.46.jpg 2017-07-09 19.14.01.jpg 2017-07-09 19.14.08.jpg I'll throw a couple of archive shots in to make up the numbers! 2010-01-02 20.35.46.jpg Brush Type 4 D1929 on a southbound cross-country working 2010-01-02 20.41.46.jpg Haymarket allocated Type 5 Deltic D9004 "Queens Own Highlander" just pulling out of the north end of York with a Kings Cross-Newcastle working That's it for now guys. hi Mike I had a very similar track cleaner from the USA when I used to model Swiss N gauge which was the very devil to track clean beneath the over head wires. From what I remember it made a big difference and once the track was clean I would place in front of the first train on an operating session just to keep on top of the job. Think you will be pleased with the results mate 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jukebox Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 Hi all, Hopefully this will be the final update without any trains running! So far I have cleaned all the track by hand with Isopropanol and following this mammoth undertaking my thoughts were along the lines (no pun intended) of 'never again' and therefore my decision is most definitely never again. I made some enquiries regarding a mechanical means and having tried various options and found all of them so far to be pretty useless I was directed to the CMX unit from the USA. Needless to say I tried the usual UK options without success so had to order direct and the photo below shows it in action. 2017-07-09 19.14.20.jpg My version of the Network Rail weedkiller! 2017-07-09 19.14.38.jpg Now remember I have just about done myself in cleaning the track and low and behold its still dirty, but I have to say it certainly works and works very well, probably one of my better purchases it must be said. Its pretty expensive at $175 (£135) and in addition to the cost there is Import Duty of £37.00 to add - which I was oblivious to - AAAARRRRGGGHHH!!!! The whole of this week while I was off work was taken up with cleaning all the rolling stock wheels and re-setting all back-to-back's to 14.5mm, you really don't want to know how many there are because if you do you may all think I'm as mad a Jeff (KL2) the DAS king! Still the mundane make men of us, that's what I tell myself. To finish here are some shots of the current situation... 2017-07-09 19.12.26.jpg 2017-07-09 19.12.50.jpg 2017-07-09 19.13.18.jpg 2017-07-09 19.13.46.jpg 2017-07-09 19.14.01.jpg 2017-07-09 19.14.08.jpg I'll throw a couple of archive shots in to make up the numbers! 2010-01-02 20.35.46.jpg Brush Type 4 D1929 on a southbound cross-country working 2010-01-02 20.41.46.jpg Haymarket allocated Type 5 Deltic D9004 "Queens Own Highlander" just pulling out of the north end of York with a Kings Cross-Newcastle working That's it for now guys. Another vote of confidence for the CMX from me, Mike. I use lacquer thinners, after reading this blurb about the CMX - but I also am aware that these have something of an aura of bad juju around them in the UK, so you may of course choose something less toxic: https://tonystrains.com/chemist-reviews-cmx-clean-machine/ As for availability in the UK, Richard at DCC Concepts did/does stock them here in Oz; I suspect his Settle operation may well be a source, helping avoid the import duty. I've contemplating painting mine black, but suspect that it would weather rather too prototypically with every minor spill of the stuff I load into it! Cheers Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 Hi guys, Thanks for all the comments and guesses so to put a few things straight... 1. I store ALL my rolling stock in those tower type plastic drawer units all labelled up to ease location of particular items. 2. All locomotives are stored similarly with the addition of a foam carrier sleeve for protection and ease of lifting to reduce possible damage. 3. I keep ALL my rolling stock boxes - where else but in bigger boxes. 4. All my locomotive boxes are kept in those collapsible type crates and each crate has a list of contents, makes are kept together. These can be seen above the layout in many previous shots. 5. Everything and I mean everything is kept on a computer MS Excel file (I just can't get to grips with MS Access) where notes of interest are listed. Its the Boy Scout approach but it does work. I'll post a few pic's later as I'm still off work. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 Andy, almost forgot! What has a Deltic ever done to you? I cycled 53 miles from Glasgow-Edinburgh AND back just to see them when I was a sprog. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PeterBB Posted July 10, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 10, 2017 Tony strains article above via Jukebox is extremely interesting. I am aware of all the chemicals in his stated mix and very much doubt whether a number of them would be readily available UK wise apart from the inherent dangers in a lot of them. The one that springs to mind was in an histology lab many years ago when a stopper on a xylene bottle was a fraction loose during weather like we have at the moment. Security wise overnight everything was tight closed. The first few in the following morning 'felt funny' and one collapsed a little while later ... This was before the time of the H&S&W Act of 1974. Propyl alcohol does a good job post abrasion, is not that expensive but transport from a company is covered by Chip which adds to the cost. The cost of the unit is phenomenal but for Mike's layout and others with such a big layout is probably a very good buy. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 10, 2017 Author Share Posted July 10, 2017 Tony strains article above via Jukebox is extremely interesting. I am aware of all the chemicals in his stated mix and very much doubt whether a number of them would be readily available UK wise apart from the inherent dangers in a lot of them. The one that springs to mind was in an histology lab many years ago when a stopper on a xylene bottle was a fraction loose during weather like we have at the moment. Security wise overnight everything was tight closed. The first few in the following morning 'felt funny' and one collapsed a little while later ... This was before the time of the H&S&W Act of 1974. Propyl alcohol does a good job post abrasion, is not that expensive but transport from a company is covered by Chip which adds to the cost. The cost of the unit is phenomenal but for Mike's layout and others with such a big layout is probably a very good buy. Peter Hi Peter, The information GURU or what. Such an insight into the hitherto unknown, we really know very little about these wonder solutions, I must have cast iron lungs as for many people I know get uncomfortable around certain chemicals and I honestly can't see what the fuss is, I'm not saying it does not affect me just that I don't feel the effects most of the time, perhaps its a lifetime in industry of one sort or another. I am quite careful and if one substance causes me any issues then some sort of protection is used. The most recent chemical I took a dislike to immediately was a product called 'JOTUN' thinners - bad stuff I can tell you but it does clean very well. I have some left over from a work project and now use some in a sealed glass jar to deep clean my airbrush bottles of stubborn deposits, the fumes alone dislodge any paint stains given some time! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted July 10, 2017 Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) Andy, almost forgot! What has a Deltic ever done to you? I cycled 53 miles from Glasgow-Edinburgh AND back just to see them when I was a sprog. SORRY to hear that mate, hhahahha Edited July 10, 2017 by Andrew P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Hi all, Better late than never eh! As promised here are a few shots of my stock storage solutions. The coloured stack is a mix of coaches and wagons All drawers are labelled for contents The white tower is my Diesel fleet These 3 towers house the bulk of the steam fleet This set of drawers are loco overflow on the left; projects 'on the go' in the centre' and tools on the right The main project shown is the conversion of several 7 plank opens into 'Coil' wagons, I have Clive Mortimer to thank for pointing me in the right direction about these Lastly are the collapsible boxes housing the empty loco boxes, the list of contents is prominent at the front. A place for everything and everything in its place as the saying goes. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 Don't ask me why, the photos were all the correct way up when loaded so you'll have to strain your neck or tun the PC upside-down Tech-bleeding-nology!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 11, 2017 Hi Mick All looks very tidy. If I was that organised I wouldn't know what to do, I spend half my modelling time looking for stuff. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PeterBB Posted July 11, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 11, 2017 Mike, Absolutely superb organisation so one big question ... did you start doing this right at the beginning or did you suddenly find it necessary because things just 'got in the way'? It is my dream but ... Andy P knows just what my Engine Shed looks like . Peter 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangoman69 Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 I thought I had OCD, but this takes it to a whole new level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 Hi all, Better late than never eh! As promised here are a few shots of my stock storage solutions. 2017-07-10 16.53.30.jpg The coloured stack is a mix of coaches and wagons 2017-07-10 16.54.20.jpg All drawers are labelled for contents 2017-07-10 16.54.28.jpg The white tower is my Diesel fleet 2017-07-10 16.55.09.jpg These 3 towers house the bulk of the steam fleet 2017-07-10 16.55.42.jpg This set of drawers are loco overflow on the left; projects 'on the go' in the centre' and tools on the right 2017-07-10 16.56.22.jpg The main project shown is the conversion of several 7 plank opens into 'Coil' wagons, I have Clive Mortimer to thank for pointing me in the right direction about these 2017-07-10 16.56.54.jpg Lastly are the collapsible boxes housing the empty loco boxes, the list of contents is prominent at the front. A place for everything and everything in its place as the saying goes. Totally INSANE, Mike, that is so so so organised mate, and even a tin of Biscuits help you long whilst trying to find the Loco you want, are they sorted numerically as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 11, 2017 Author Share Posted July 11, 2017 (edited) To answer the above: Clive, I detest three things in life; 1. Doing things twice (wife used to complain ) 2. Red traffic lights 3. Searching and time wasting, too many things to do Peter, I have always been this way, I'm not saying I never lose or misplace things but when I do it really annoys me My biggest downfall is re-organising and forgetting where on earth I moved something to! Andy, Oh yes they are all in order and the positions adjusted when a new item arrives. Oh yes the tin of biscuits - it no longer holds any biscuits and this revelation will convince you of my mental state, the tin is full of those re-seal-able type cellophane bags with various different sizes organised in separate bags....of course. All this manic mayhem gives me more modelling time in the long run, on the other side of the room beneath the fiddleyard are an array of similar drawer towers with all my general modelling materials - in order naturally. I thinks its well worth the effort guys and would recommend some sort of organisation to all. I often get comments when customers see the inside of my joinery van or workshop saying how organised it all is, the H&SE carried out a spot check a few years ago and were that stumped to find fault they asked me this: Edit....pressed the wrong button. they asked:: "What is that" pointing to a 24" brush. "A brush" I said "What do you use it for?" "Your'e having a laugh, am I on candid camera" It went on a bit from there but you get my drift. Edited July 11, 2017 by mike61680 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted July 11, 2017 Share Posted July 11, 2017 AMAZING Mike, I am now going to re look at my Stock Boxes, as I think your system has so much going for it. Now where did I put that Black Bin Liner with the Locos in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Very neat set up you've got there.I'm amazed you managed to get Anti-gravity technology into those drawers! Puts all of our storage set ups to shame, well at least mine... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 13, 2017 Author Share Posted July 13, 2017 Hi Sharky, I have been deliberating all day on the anti-gravity theme but totally lost on its meaning, enlightenment would be good for a dimwit like me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulgabill Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Psst Mike == some of the drawer pics are upside down! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 14, 2017 Author Share Posted July 14, 2017 Ah! Told you I was dim. When I loaded them they were correct and although I noticed the problem when I posted them I FORGOT about it. Old age is a terrible thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 Hi all, Following major maintenance work I can at last post a weekend update First up and in the early hours we have an RCTS enthusiasts special heading for a Carlisle Kingmoor depot visit. The modern equivalent of which was held on Saturday at the DRS site in Kingmoor, I was at Carlisle myself yesterday however I was on the Cumbrian Mountain Express hauled by the magnificent 46233 'Duchess of Sutherland' - fabulous day, weather excluded. Class 20 D8169 has been pressed into passenger duty for the special working hauling a mixed bag of suburban stock. As daybreak dawns BR Std.4 Mogul 76114, last of the class heads north with a fitted freight. First stopper of the day heading south is hauled by Compound 4-4-0 40934 with a couple of parcels vans and three ex:LMS Period 3 coaching stock. Early morning parcels heading north behind BR Sulzer Type 2 D5233 The Type 2 has real mixed array of vehicles in tow Everything appears to be heading north, here we have another fitted freight hauled by Class 5 4-6-0 44999 Once again a wide variety of vehicles captures the attention. The second southbound offering of the day is English Electric Type 4 D368 with a Motorail working The Motorail train is well patronised it appears, mind you the roads were not what they are now, no potholes, few queues, cheap petrol but less reliable cars - well the ones I had back then more to follow later... 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) The Motorail train heads for Widdale tunnel A Class 108 DMU is northbound with a stopping service to Carlisle The DMU is passed on the 'up' by 1M88 'The Waverley' hauled by Jubilee 4-6-0 45629 'Straits Settlements' on its Carlisle-Leeds leg of the journey. The 'Waverley' hurries south Followed close behind by the 'Up' Thames-Clyde Express hauled by Royal Scot 4-6-0 46115 'Scots Guardsman' on its Glasgow-Leeds leg. The shelf cut by the navvies of the 1870's is highlighted in this view Final view of the TCE heading for Widdale tunnel Trundling through behind the Waverley and Thames-Clyde is Jinty 3F 0-6-0 47410 with trip working of steel pipes and a steel slab on the trestle wagon. That's it for the modelling side but the next post is slightly different... Edited July 23, 2017 by mike61680 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
67A Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) Just a few shots of our arrival at Liverpool Lime St. yesterday evening following a sterling performance by 46233, I was cheeky enough to ask the fireman for some coal to crush for my hopper rake which he duly obliged, so keep your eyes out. (I have plenty other shots taken on my SLR but the phone camera downloads automatically) Hope you like. Edit: Obviously the 1st shot is Carlisle and it seems gravity is at it again, no idea why its correct my end. Edited July 24, 2017 by mike61680 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Physicsman Posted July 23, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 23, 2017 Yes Mike, I like very much! Some gorgeous shots in your 20.18 post. Your photos just encourage me to "get a shifty on"... As for the organisation - I think I need a tidy-up! Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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