RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 13, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 13, 2014 Has anyone had all the glazing out of one of these and if so, does it come out easily enough to re-use? They're cheap enough to buy for re-paints and mucking about with. Cheers Andy Hi, Andrew F. I followed Colin Parks up-grade on my 2-Bil. The glazing on mine all but dropped out! I think you should find that the glazing, being attached in the way it is will come out really quite easily, unless the Chinese have started to really glue it in! Be sure to use the blunt end of a paint brush to gently push on the glazing, whilst nudging it downwards. This should be sufficient to get the glazing released from the 'holders' along the top of the glazing on the inside of the top of the body. All the best, Market65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium John M Upton Posted August 19, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 19, 2014 Just to confirm I have just fitted my two 2-BILs with Kadee number 19s and despite a couple of tight curves the two units went like a dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernowtim Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Kernow model centre still have the Southern railway R3161A at £59.99,but have 1 less now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Kernow model centre still have the Southern railway R3161A at £59.99,but have 1 less now!! Indeed, even as a motorised chassis that's good value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinkyme Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Hornby Shop site are still showing BR 2 BIL R3162 '2142' set for £59.99 and this price includes postage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yep, saw that too. Just ordered one, be stupid of an SR BR fan to miss this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew F Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Wish I'd known about the BR ones going cheap. I've just got two SR ones today to repaint blue and it seems like it won't be just a simple paint job. I didn't know about the different buffer beams for starters. What other differences are there between the SR and BR (livery aside) and does anyone know where the BR buffers can be obtained? One of my SR pair actually has the BR oval buffers and beam on the trailer and the SR ones on the driver and that white detail part above the bogie centre is missing. The chassis detail is bent and badly fitted too. Pretty poor for new models. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestburyJack Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Yep, saw that too. Just ordered one, be stupid of an SR BR fan to miss this... Now out of stock :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulleidboy100 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Kernows say that R3257 Hornby 2-BIL 2 Car Electric Multiple Unit BR with yellow front markings, should be arriving next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The last batch of 2 BILs built, still well and truly in SR days, had the heavier buffers and stronger underframes. So both types of buffers could feature on BR green or BR blue units quite legitimately, depending on the unit numbers you choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multiple identity account Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 BR BLUE 2-BUILs are hitting the stands now...!https://railsofsheffield.com/Hornby-2-bil-units-JJJGP599.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I could be wrong, but, it looks like Hornby have got their buffer types mixed up. The last time I looked, the NRM version had the earlier type of clipped oval, slim, rectangular shanked type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted September 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2014 I could be wrong, but, it looks like Hornby have got their buffer types mixed up. The last time I looked, the NRM version had the earlier type of clipped oval, slim, rectangular shanked type. Or Rails have mixed up their photosets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceptic Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Or Rails have mixed up their photosets Or Hornby, with their numbering. 2090 is the NRM version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerces Fobe2 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 Just ordered my Blue 2 BIL for a return trip to the Watford DC Lines! XF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1023 Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 I have just been looking at the pictures on Rails website - the NRM version has air horns whilst t'other unit 2086 retains it's whistle which is (according to the Southern Electric Vol 2/David Brown book p.114) correct. Apparently already painted blue when it received its air horns in June 1971 and then withdrawn a few weeks later, so Hornby have done their research. I think it looks really good in blue. 2086 on pre-order. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I want to order a blue BIL but it has to take second place to a few bills! Still, not long to the next payday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I must admit being surprised at this popping up relatively soon - it does seem like the supply woes are being address (a veritable torrent of Mk3s in various liveries have been emerging in the past weeks). Now, if we can only get the blue/grey VEP..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2014 I'm tempted by a blue one, but there's also the new green version with "yellow ends" to consider as this should arrive soon too. Do we know by the way if yellow ends means SYP or FYE? That might affect my decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman7 Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 If it's green FYE I'd be happy to have one as a pair to run with the blue one....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 (edited) I have pre-empted the green with yellow ends - both syp and fye. However, I was going to repaint one of my green units into blue fye but Hornby's announcements beat me to it, so the remaining plain green unit will also gain syp in the not too distant future. I renumbered the one with fye to 2147.One other thing I like about the new blue unit from Hornby (not the NRM one) is that it has the earlier, slender buffers, where all of my existing units have the later heavy style.I also shot a quick video of two of the units in multiple on my layout (this was actually just a test of my new HTC phone's video capabilities, but stringing the three separate clips together turned out reasonably well!). http://vid98.photobucket.com/albums/l265/jslynn/Rail/Hornby2BILsinMultiple2_zpsb58fa7b8.mp4 (for some reason I can't embed the video as I normally do.) Edited September 3, 2014 by SRman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted September 3, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 3, 2014 Blue unit ordered. Unusually for me this is from Rails who emailed me to confirm the VAT-free price as their checkout did't apply it. Jeff - I would be more than happy for you to add a SYP to my green one sometime and possibly with a custom renumbering as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Can anyone who knows what they are looking at please confirm if Hornby have used the correct bogies on the blue one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasatcopthorne Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 Can anyone who knows what they are looking at please confirm if Hornby have used the correct bogies on the blue one? I don't think the bogies ever changed but all the shoebeams are incorrect. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 3, 2014 Share Posted September 3, 2014 I don't think the bogies ever changed but all the shoebeams are incorrect. Dave On the original release (green) ones, it was said that Hornby had used the wrong type for the trailing bogie. They were supposed to be changing this for the blue release and making the new bogie available as a spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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