10800 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Some specific books on NPCS which come to mind include: Geoff Gamble - Railways in profile No.6 – British railway non-passenger rolling stock (Cheona). David Gould - Southern Railway passenger vans (Oakwood). David Larkin - BR general parcels rolling stock – a pictorial survey (Bradford Barton). Long OOP, this whole series of 4(?) books is like gold dust these days. Jack Slinn - GW siphons (HMRS). Peter Tatlow - Historic carriage drawings volume three – non-passenger coaching stock (Pendragon). Also sections in general coach books, some already mentioned, such as Jenkinson & Essery on LMS, Mike King on Southern and Keith Parkin on BR Mk1s. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 not sure if this is a parcels or a freight working but interesting non the less.. Wigan North Western by Kerry Parker (KP), on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted January 14, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 14, 2013 Some specific books on NPCS which come to mind include: David Larkin - BR general parcels rolling stock – a pictorial survey (Bradford Barton). Long OOP, this whole series of 4(?) books is like gold dust these days. Hi Rod It was 5 books, Non passenger coaches, BR wagons, pre nationalisation wagons, departmental wagons and private owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
10800 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Hi Rod It was 5 books, Non passenger coaches, BR wagons, pre nationalisation wagons, departmental wagons and private owners. Thanks Clive, I remember now - I didn't buy the PO book! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Can't resist THIS: http://www.flickr.com/photos/curly42/6511943337/ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 . . Kirk inside framed Monster. Not currently available as far as I know but they do pop up on Ebay. This one is pretty much out of the packet apart from replacement bogies from Blacksmith. Jonathan, I have one of these to complete. Where did the Monster branding come from? Thanks, Peter C. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Here are some sightings from 1979 - all at Cardiff. Weds. 02/05/1979 47152+M31262M+80675+85503+85521+85512 added at Cardiff were:- 85514+85528+85517. Carmarthen / Swansea - Old Oak Common empty vans ? . Mon.14/05/1979 W2942+94445+S4289+81184+94190+94541+86227+S1855+M31252+81328+S1633 rake stabled. rare sighting of a Siphon'G' still in revenue service. . Tues. 15/05/1979 31286+94443+S1795+S1816+94765+M31004+94793+81070+94144+S1758+S1578+S1415+S1887+S1493+S1354 Swindon - Cardiff parcels. . Weds. 16/05/1979 37289+94899+87897+94522+94232+80616+86580+S1865+94221+86359+94503+S1333+94882+35134+94633+S1411 Swindon - Cardiff parcels. . Sat. 19/05/1979 81032+80868+86383+86198+86951+86439+86566+M31422+86413+86342+81277+86856+86180+80901 rake stabled . Tues 28/08/1979 47551+80545+S1836+S1778+81429+85528+85518+85503 Carmarthen / Swansea - Old Oak Common empty vans ? . Tues. 11/09/1979 94374+94919+80683+86825+ADB975788 (Siphon G)+86760+80959+94881+86532+S253+Sxxx+86543+81515 rake stabled. 80853+S268+94689+94558, S1277+94888 stabled . Tues. 25/09/179 35400+S2142+M31932+94407+94679+94229+S1450+M31422+94236+80532+94359+94830+S2534+S2530 rake stabled. . Brian R 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Hi Peter, From memory I struggled to find one as well - I believe it's from the HMRS GWR era sheet as it's not actually in the correct font for BR. If I were doing it again I'd probably get John Peck to print some for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 40 002 at Chester by geoff7918, on Flickr Bradford: Forster Square. April 1967. by jb303, on Flickr Parcels Trains at Bristol Temple Meads - 45622 by trafalgar45682, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Gresley BG at Leicester London Rd. 18.08.70 by Railway Dave, on Flickr LMS BG Leic L.R. 18th August 1970. Recently outshopped in Rail Blue. by Railway Dave, on Flickr Edited January 18, 2013 by Michael Delamar 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) Don't know if it's parcels or an all empty Royal Mail train. June 1991, Coppull up fast. Lostock Junction heading to Bolton, August 1987. Springs Branch down fast, June 1973 Tom Edited January 18, 2013 by Thomas 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) A couple of black and whites. E3011 arriving at Lancaster. 81008 heading south at Golborne Junction. Tom Edited January 18, 2013 by Thomas 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 this shot speaks for itself http://www.flickr.com/photos/actonwellsjunction/6931401376/ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 this shot speaks for itself http://www.flickr.com/photos/actonwellsjunction/6931401376/ I like the three 5-planked Highs at the front, each carrying a container; put that on a layout and see how long you'd have to wait for a call of 'That's WRONG' 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2013 this shot speaks for itself http://www.flickr.com/photos/actonwellsjunction/6931401376/ A strange mixture, with 3 containers behind the loco, the first two in open wagons* and the third on a Conflat followed by a Mk1 BG, 12T van, 50ft BG, more short vans then a GUV. By the look of the steam at the back there was also some attaching/detaching going on. *Looking at a big blow-up the first two wagons have different height bodies, so not standard 5-plank configuration. I suspect that the first is LNER with 6 equal-width planks and the second is a GWR 51/2 plank. Anyone got any other ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted January 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2013 I like the three 5-planked Highs at the front, each carrying a container; put that on a layout and see how long you'd have to wait for a call of 'That's WRONG' A very good reason for the exhibitor to carry a copy of the photo and stick it up the nose of the know-all! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 A strange mixture, with 3 containers behind the loco, the first two in open wagons* and the third on a Conflat followed by a Mk1 BG, 12T van, 50ft BG, more short vans then a GUV. By the look of the steam at the back there was also some attaching/detaching going on. *Looking at a big blow-up the first two wagons have different height bodies, so not standard 5-plank configuration. I suspect that the first is LNER with 6 equal-width planks and the second is a GWR 51/2 plank. Anyone got any other ideas? Reckon you're correct; I couldn't even work out the third vehicle was a Conflat initially, but on blowing up, they're a lot easier to differentiate. Hope they gave the guard a Stove or similar; he'd be frozen else. I wonder what the traffic might be; fish from Fleetwood, or something brought in via Heysham? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2013 Reckon you're correct; I couldn't even work out the third vehicle was a Conflat initially, but on blowing up, they're a lot easier to differentiate. Hope they gave the guard a Stove or similar; he'd be frozen else. I wonder what the traffic might be; fish from Fleetwood, or something brought in via Heysham? Looking at the blow-up again, the first short van behind the 50ft looks to be a Goods Brake, often provided for heating on parcels trains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartp Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Reckon you're correct; I couldn't even work out the third vehicle was a Conflat initially, but on blowing up, they're a lot easier to differentiate. Hope they gave the guard a Stove or similar; he'd be frozen else. I wonder what the traffic might be; fish from Fleetwood, or something brought in via Heysham? Containers in Hyfits was an MoD practice (I think, Stationmaster ?), given the location and direction it could be MoD traffic going to one of the depots/dumps around Carlisle and the Solway. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Containers in Hyfits was an MoD practice (I think, Stationmaster ?), given the location and direction it could be MoD traffic going to one of the depots/dumps around Carlisle and the Solway. Containers in Highfits were certainly common from the various MoD locations around S W Wales (Trecwn, Milford, Llangennech); that first box looks a bit lightly-coloured to be one of the maroon/bauxite ones, however, which is why I wondered if it might be Perishables traffic. Edited January 19, 2013 by Fat Controller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2013 A couple of thoughts/points - firstly containers in Hyfits weren't all that unusual, sometimes for security but as often as not because of the difficulty in getting hold of a Conflat - I can definitely remember occasions when containers were loaded to a Hyfit for exactly that reason; couldn't get a Conflat in time (which could easily happen if a station happened to 'make' containers and finished up with some on hand). Now the train itself is interesting and the first thought that went through my mind was Stranraer although Heysham is also a strong possibility as already suggested. I believe there was a regular Class 3 train to Stranraer at that time although I'm not quite sure of its origin so it might well have conveyed shipment traffic in containers - what I think would be more unusual is freight rated traffic going in a train which seems to include parcels vans as well. And on balance I think it probably is predominantly devoted to parcels traffic in view of it clearly working at a passenger station. The freight brakevan is there to give the Guard a warm place to ride - not as comfortable as a bogie vehicle of course but definitely a lot warmer than one where there's no steam on for heating and again not at all unusual, especially on the LMR which seemed to be forever short of gas heated bogie brakevans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stuartp Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 the first thought that went through my mind was Stranraer Oooh ! I never thought of that ! (goes rummaging for containers and Hyfits...). Pics of Port Road parcels trains are like hens teeth (because they largely ran overnight) so this might be the first I've seen. Even if it was really going to Heysham I might still copy it for Newton Stewart. Now if only the photographer could have stood a bit further to the right, ruined the composition and got the rest of the train a bit clearer. Simply not having enough Conflats would also explain the third one not being in a Hyfit. Ta. :-) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I like the three 5-planked Highs at the front, each carrying a container; put that on a layout and see how long you'd have to wait for a call of 'That's WRONG' Fantastic detail! And Waverley Route staples. Oozing pure class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted January 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2013 A few oddments of parcels trains and vans are finding their way into my 'trainspotting' thread (which is mainly Western in Part 1) but here's a pretty little train ( ) which will be appearing in the next addition). Reading 28 July 1963 - 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 couple of interesting shots.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/68861278@N03/8210915622/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/68861278@N03/8227001788/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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