Tim H Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Question for the forum. How many good examples are there of relatively short present-day freight trains? Speedlink trip workings used to provide some great examples with six wagon trains of five different wagon types, but trains like that are largely a thing of the past. DRS's nuclear flask trains are an obvious one. So are engineers' trains (with the added bonus of a mix of wagon types), or fuel oil deiveries to depots. What else is there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 MOD trains can be rather short.. I've got a picture of a 66 with a warflat. edit# Will add a picture when I'm at home but I see Andy has already posted a load and mine are similar as Eastleigh is my local haunt too. Cheers Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 As pitbull says, MOD trains can vary in length. The Eastleigh to Marchwood and return trips can have one wagon or just a handful. Same with the workings to Bicester. Some of the Enterprise trains I've seen go from Eastleigh can be short, with maybe a few tanks and an intermodal flat, or a couple of engineers wagons added in the mix as well. 66101 with single Warflat. The FCA Intermodal flats seem to be used the most for containerised MOD traffic from Marchwood. A train that can be done when Hornby release 60007. Just need a few Bachmann VGA's and you're set! Two views of the Bicester MOD. A single VGA or FAA flat will do! The oil train from Fawley can load to an impressive number of wagons. Or just five in this case, with a DB Red 60 at the front to boot! No idea what this working was at Newport (I'd like to though!) Easily modeled with a Bachmann 66 and 6 MEA's. Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim H Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thanks - some good ones there. Saw a train late at night at Didcot that was a mix of ferry vans, intermodal flats and TTAs. Probably too long to be a "short" train, but any idea what it might have been? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted February 9, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 9, 2013 Engneering/infrastructure trains can be good for short trains and single wagons behind a loco are not uncommon. 6K05 Carlisle-Crewe http://www.flickr.com/photos/78583374@N06/7465402082/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/ricardo4eyes/5740591255/ 6F67 Dowlow-Warrington can often be fairly short http://www.flickr.com/photos/dave1963/7090305397/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/english-electric/5684197384/ And my favourite http://www.flickr.com/photos/63611615@N06/6967899674/ Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Does the Rail Head Treatment Train count? Also - how far does the journey have to be? The movement of coal and rolling stock into/out of GWS Didcot (or the NRM for that matter) springs to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 The scrap trains to and from some of the yards like Crossley Evans at Shipley could make ideal trains as even removing a few wagons should result in a feasible train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Did someone say engineering trains? Ok so track machines may be pushing it a little, but they were running as a class 6 freight... 56312 leads the Colas ballast cleaner and 47739 past Great Cheverell on 6Z76 Tavistock Junction - West Ealing Plasser works 20/1/11 47739 departs Westerleigh with 6J88 to Rugby, towing a failed DR77901 17/11/12 59205 at Brassknocker near Limpley Stoke with a lightweight 6C41 Newport - Westbury 25/3/11 Very modellable as Dapol do the IOAs, and this was normally a 66 working, despite the 59 appearing here. 59205 isn't quite "moving the Mendips" here So, steel? 5 BAA/BBAs 60045 passes East Usk yard in Newport 26/10/12 Intermodal? 70008 rounds the curve at Thingley with 4Z66 Basingstoke - Southampton. The twin wagon set being hauled had split during the week, and having been repaired needing taking back to Southampton 7/5/11 There was a previous thread here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/15853-modern-image-short-freight-trains/ jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Thanks - some good ones there. Saw a train late at night at Didcot that was a mix of ferry vans, intermodal flats and TTAs. Probably too long to be a "short" train, but any idea what it might have been? That was the Newport-Dagenham or return. The vans are from Bridgend-Dagenham, the flats Barry -Southampton and the TTA's are Canton-Fawley. Sometimes it runs with around 100SLU so not quite a short train! I see that was you Andy taking my picture on 66101 near Marchwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Are Nuclear Flask trains often short with multiple locos? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Even a single hopper, here passing the yellow HST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chriswright03 Posted February 10, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 10, 2013 Or you could use more than one loco. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Some good pictures here. There is a Similar thread here http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/48369-freight-superpower-or-overkill/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Heres the MOD one I was talking about.. Cheers Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Heres the MOD one I was talking about.. rm.jpg Cheers Scott Same pic in the other thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull1845 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 correct..ive been trying to look through my others but cant find any different ones as yet.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Here's the same working as Scott's pic with the warflat, but on a different day, only a single twin set of FCA flats. It can also be quite lengthy, with TTAs, containers, car carriers and various MoD traffic all possible loads 66137 passes Lower Basildon with a light weight empty FCA twin set on 6V38 Marchwood - Didcot 12/10/12 jo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Makes you wonder about the actual viability of some of those MOD runs. I think the army provides the most interesting of modern freight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWT442 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I see that was you Andy taking my picture on 66101 near Marchwood. Indeed! We both left Eastleigh at the same time, I was pacing you down towards the Airport! Seeing as it was a Red Shed and a single Warflat, I thought it would be a good one to catch! Andy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ess1uk Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Makes you wonder about the actual viability of some of those MOD runs. I think the army provides the most interesting of modern freight With defence cuts could these get fewer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted February 11, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 11, 2013 The fuel train between Plymouth and Long rock is somewhat short and rather modellable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Well I hope not from a modellers point of view, but if they do, from a concerned citizens point of view I guess we'd be in one less dodgy war abroad... I love to do some warflats / warwells one day with some weird and wonderful military vehicles. What could be better from a boys point of view than trains and tanks...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdseyecircus Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Posted it before but here's 67002 leaving the Hull Docks branch in 2006 Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Suppose a lot depends on what you call 'short' - couple of wagons? 5'+loco in OO? Saw something the other day that suggested there were 1/4 fewer freight trains running today than 10 years ago, but freight lifted and ton/miles were both up substantially - that points to less short trains and longer and longer remaining ones - it is a challenge! Here's a few though - this was a move to Doncaster works, load 6x PGA Three shots of the regular trips between Bescot and Toton - the 92 was fresh from the Toton paint shop - and I reckon the one with the silver 67 would be only about 5' long (plus loco) in OO, and is a very modelleable mix of wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 2 loco's, 2 wagons and a crane? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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