Wyvern Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hi, I have been interested in the Tinsley marshalling yard for some time particularly the class 13 super shunters and would like to get hold of some more information on the yard. I am particularly keen on obtaining a scale trackplan and would like to ask members if there are any sources of information that are worth obtaining. Many thanks Wyvern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvern Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 Oh, and a happy new year to all :icon_thumbsup2: Wyvern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hi, I have been interested in the Tinsley marshalling yard for some time particularly the class 13 super shunters and would like to get hold of some more information on the yard. I am particularly keen on obtaining a scale trackplan and would like to ask members if there are any sources of information that are worth obtaining. Many thanks Wyvern There's one in a book called 'An Illustrated History of British Marshalling Yards' published by OPC- it's a track diagram, rather than a scale plan. The overall length of the yard was near enough two miles- you might get away with modelling the reception sidings, which had an overbridge between them and the sorting sidings, and the depot. I only ever visited on a Saturday afternoon, when it was fairly quiet, but even then it was an impressive sight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40192 Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 A colleague of mine was a driver at Tinsley, and worked with the 13's, and speaks about the hump shunting system with fond memories If you have any specific questions, I can ask him on your behalf. Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevor H Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Not 100% But wasn't their a large pullout trackplan and article in Rail Express many moons ago. Trevor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 There have been a couple of models recently of hump yards, not specifically Tinsley, but it would make an interesting model. As Brian (Fat Controller) mentions you could model the reception sidings by the side of the shed up to the overbridge. This would allow you to perform the hump shunting without having to employ a very complex set of points or the Dowty controls with the wagons simply heading off into the fiddle yard. Hmmm..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieselbob Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hi Wyvern I have had a few good sessions there in the past when it was a speedlink yard, it was possible to sit on the high banks overlooking the yard and watch the loose shunting in the evening. I remember one exceptionally busy summer evening about 25 years ago when I sat there with a mate until about Midnight watching the action, which is quite late when you live in Slough, happy days. A bit different now, you can see it on Google Earth (search Brimsworth which s next door) and you can use the built in ruler to get a good idea of the size of the place, there is a large building right in the middle of where the yard stood, but there still looks like some railway activity there with a few sidings. I can also recommend the Fat Controllers suggestion 'An Illustrated History of British Marshalling Yards' Happy searching Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieselbob Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Sorry Wyvern The Google Earth search is Brinsworth not Brimsworth. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 British transport film, freight in a city, available on DVD, definatley worth getting . http://www.rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1149&hilit=+tinsley+british+transport Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckdancer Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Do a search on youtube - there's heaps of stuff showing Tinsley including some very interesting looking videos. I use Orbit Downloader (which is free) to download from youtube onto PC then I copy to rewriteable DVD to play later on large screen TV. It's very easy to use - even I manage. There a fair amount of historical stuff on youtube and I find it great when planning to holiday somewhere I've never been before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hi Wyvern I have had a few good sessions there in the past when it was a speedlink yard, it was possible to sit on the high banks overlooking the yard and watch the loose shunting in the evening. I remember one exceptionally busy summer evening about 25 years ago when I sat there with a mate until about Midnight watching the action, which is quite late when you live in Slough, happy days. A bit different now, you can see it on Google Earth (search Brimsworth which s next door) and you can use the built in ruler to get a good idea of the size of the place, there is a large building right in the middle of where the yard stood, but there still looks like some railway activity there with a few sidings. I can also recommend the Fat Controllers suggestion 'An Illustrated History of British Marshalling Yards' Happy searching Bob About the time you were sitting on the bank, a friend of mine was Area Freight Assistant at Sheffield, a job that included being responsible for what remained of Tinsley. It was probably an ideal job for a wagon enthusiast..... It's with horror that I realise that I realise my sole visit was even longer ago, in 1969 or 1970. It was when Sheffield had just started an integrated transport policy, with heavily subsidised buses, and I paid something like sixpence (younger readers will have to ask their grandparents)to get the bus to Brinsworth Three Magpies, which the Ian Allan Locoshed Guide said was the stop for Tinsley. We seemed to take so long on the bus that I thought we'd missed our stop, but the bus-driver reassured us. There wasn't much activity in the yard, it being Saturday afternoon, but the shed was pretty full. Such railway activity that remains is down to a few sidings serving some rolling mills- a Distribution Centre was established on the site of the main sorting sidings (probably with the promise of being rail served), but I've never heard of any traffic to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
40192 Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 About the time you were sitting on the bank, a friend of mine was Area Freight Assistant at Sheffield, a job that included being responsible for what remained of Tinsley. It was probably an ideal job for a wagon enthusiast..... It's with horror that I realise that I realise my sole visit was even longer ago, in 1969 or 1970. It was when Sheffield had just started an integrated transport policy, with heavily subsidised buses, and I paid something like sixpence (younger readers will have to ask their grandparents)to get the bus to Brinsworth Three Magpies, which the Ian Allan Locoshed Guide said was the stop for Tinsley. We seemed to take so long on the bus that I thought we'd missed our stop, but the bus-driver reassured us. There wasn't much activity in the yard, it being Saturday afternoon, but the shed was pretty full. Such railway activity that remains is down to a few sidings serving some rolling mills- a Distribution Centre was established on the site of the main sorting sidings (probably with the promise of being rail served), but I've never heard of any traffic to it. I remember that ride from Sheffield city centre to the Three Magpies pub, following the Locoshed Directory, and we too had to check with the bus driver, that we hadn't gone too far as it seemed to take forever. I remember too being blown away by the sheer size of the place, as the only marshalling yard I'd seen previously was Warrington Arpley. One lasting memory I have of that trip too, was seeing a yellow Escort Mexico on a car sales plot, with "Car of the Week" across the windscreen. Now a classic itself!...........Oh happy days!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyvern Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 Thanks to all that have replied. 40192: It must of been a pretty awe inspiring place to work. I understand that the 13s were fitted with precision speed controllers to allow precise shunting. Were there ever times when wagons would be sent down the wrong siding on account of them being pushed over the hump too early? Thanks for offering to pass on my question. Fat controller/ Diesel bob: I have searched for the book you mentioned and I will hopefully get hold of a copy before long. One search directed me to a copy for ??250! luckily amazon seems to be able to direct me to some cheaper copies closer to ??15. Buckdancer: I'll look into the youtube downloader tool as it would be good to store them on my pc. TrevorH: I also want the railexpress modeller with ynysnarwed sidings so ordering some back issues may be on the cards. Michael delmar: I will look into the transport films DVD As you can probably imagine a full size tinsley model would be a bit abitious, I would need the buy a dedicated warehouse to store it and I could write off the next 10 years of my life making track! I model in 2mmFS so if this was to be done as a model it would be to 2mm standards and DCC which I think would help alot with the wiring. Oh and I think Easitrack would be the way forward. Controlling the wagons speed - magnets on a conveyor belt, brisles? Tinsley just has a wonderful industrial charm and is a very tempting modelling proposition. I actually found someone initial plans to model tinsley in P4, albeit with a modicum of compression : http://www.scalefour.org/layouts/Hump/Hump.htm I really do like the layout he envisaged which would be very manageable in 2mm scale. Finally if you've read to the end thanks again. Wyvern Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tappa Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I actually found someone initial plans to model tinsley in P4, albeit with a modicum of compression : http://www.scalefour...s/Hump/Hump.htm I really do like the layout he envisaged which would be very manageable in 2mm scale. I think this was a proposal by Gareth Bayer (Rail Express) for an S4 layout competition. He also describes how he modelled a Cl.13 in the same issue as the Tinsley article. Last time I went to Tinsley, it cost me 2p (yes, TWO ENGLISH PENCE) on the bus - SYPTE subsidies. It always seemed miles and miles to the pub, but the walk over the reception sidings usually was worth it. Just how many people walked down the side of that field writing loco numbers down?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 I'm really sad I missed going there until after it was pretty much dead, I did take some photos just before they removed the yard track to put the new warehouse in and before they built on the site of the shed which I need to get in the net some time. Couple of books, Rail Centres: Sheffield by Stephen Batty (ISBN 0-7110-1366-7) has a good overall aerial shot as well as general railway history of the area Tinsley A Souvenir Booklet July 1980 (fairly often on eBay) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 Rail Express had a very good article on Tinsley with a fold out track plan in issue #93 / February 2004. There's also a feature on modelling the Class 13s. . HTH. Nidge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PaulCheffus Posted January 4, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 4, 2010 I actually found someone initial plans to model tinsley in P4, albeit with a modicum of compression : http://www.scalefour...s/Hump/Hump.htm I really do like the layout he envisaged which would be very manageable in 2mm scale. I think this was a proposal by Gareth Bayer (Rail Express) for an S4 layout competition. He also describes how he modelled a Cl.13 in the same issue as the Tinsley article. Last time I went to Tinsley, it cost me 2p (yes, TWO ENGLISH PENCE) on the bus - SYPTE subsidies. It always seemed miles and miles to the pub, but the walk over the reception sidings usually was worth it. Just how many people walked down the side of that field writing loco numbers down?? Hi I had two visits to Tinsley. One was with a friend of the family who worked as a wheel tapper and the other was the 1980 open day. I too have pondered the idea of building a 2mm version of Gareth Bayer's plan but couldn't think of a decent way of diguising the exit from the sorted sidings and couldn't think of a reliable method of slowing the wagons. Good luck with the project. I believe the 2mm SA can supply the 08 kit as a 13 kit but I didn't managed to get a price when I enquired. Cheers Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusDe Posted January 5, 2010 Share Posted January 5, 2010 I seem to remember a extensive layout in the Railway Modeller, in TT, which had a class 13 worked marshalling yard. Anyone else remember it? Must be 30ish years ago, but it was a impressive layout that always stuck in my memory. Angus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ramrig Posted January 5, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 5, 2010 Visited Tinsley Yard many times in the late 70's, ( I think the 1st visit was in 1977) early 80's saw all the 13's at work at different times. generally 2 working and one on the depot. All othose visits and never once saw a 76 'under the wires in the yard'. I have some prints I took of the 13's at work. I will try to look them out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTC Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 Last time I went to Tinsley, it cost me 2p (yes, TWO ENGLISH PENCE) on the bus - SYPTE subsidies. It always seemed miles and miles to the pub, but the walk over the reception sidings usually was worth it. 2p was the standard SYPTE bus fare for children in the early 1980s for shorter journeys. For longer journeys the fare was a whacking 4p. About 1985 both fares went up to a huge 5p. Now there's inflation for you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 I visited Tinsley a few times in the 1970s, and one route used was to walk from Darnall station across Tinsley Park Golf Course. This route was later altered by the construction of Sheffield City Airport, which, to my absolute amazement, is now disused ! I wonder how much money was wasted on this airport, whose short lifespan makes Tinsley Yard seem as long lived as Stonehenge ? Cheers, Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted January 14, 2010 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 14, 2010 2p was the standard SYPTE bus fare for children in the early 1980s for shorter journeys. For longer journeys the fare was a whacking 4p. About 1985 both fares went up to a huge 5p. Now there's inflation for you! The 4p fare was a "half" journey fare, eg, suburbs into town, if you went through town, either on the same bus route or a different one it was another 4p. Hence there were some long half journeys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 Found my pics of Tinsley from 2006 http://www.majhost.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=129467 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ramrig Posted April 9, 2010 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 9, 2010 Visited Tinsley Yard many times in the late 70's, ( I think the 1st visit was in 1977) early 80's saw all the 13's at work at different times. generally 2 working and one on the depot. All othose visits and never once saw a 76 'under the wires in the yard'. I have some prints I took of the 13's at work. I will try to look them out. As previously promised I have looked out and scaned some pictures of 13001 at work back in 1984 (Sept or Oct time I think. no date on back of print ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 This Flickr group is worth having a look at http://www.flickr.com/groups/tinsleyyard/pool/ Mainly MPD photos, but some of the yard Also there is a book out : Life and Times of a Railway Fitter at Tinsley Maintenance Depot by Phil Hodgkiss I've heard good reviews,but not got round to getting a copy yet Available from the author £10.95 + £2.99 p+p Phil Hodgkiss 3 Laurel Avenue Arkwright Town Chesterfield Derbyshire S44-5BT Cheques payable to Phil Hodgkiss I have no link with the author (beyond living in the same town!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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