RMweb Gold russ p Posted January 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 8, 2015 Well at £8.99 and cheap Bachmann FNA could make an interesting diorama!! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsp3970 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 So if I understand this thread right the 45 is actually a 46? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The next issue is up on the website. BR Standard 2-6-0 (though confusingly the legend says 'The BR Standard Moguls and 2-6-2Ts'. http://greatbritishlocomotive.co.uk/_uk/?page_id=7 Mine will be up for swapsies if anyone's interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 The next issue is up on the website. BR Standard 2-6-0 (though confusingly the legend says 'The BR Standard Moguls and 2-6-2Ts'. http://greatbritishlocomotive.co.uk/_uk/?page_id=7 Mine will be up for swapsies if anyone's interested. I reckon that tender will come in handy if nothing else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I wonder what will be next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I reckon that tender will come in handy if nothing else That would be the wrong tender for the Southern Region allocation, would it not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Typical! I just acquired some more parts on eBay for my (very long term project!) Kitmaster/Airfix/Dapol 76xxx........ This is a new one not previously mentioned. Does it not bear more than a passing resemblance to models we've seen before - 4MT tank comes instantly to mind. If the finish is decent, it would save me doing all that lining, which would make it worth £8.99. Edited January 9, 2015 by Il Grifone 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 So if I understand this thread right the 45 is actually a 46? I was wondering the same the fuel tank is class 46 not sure about the body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Hi, GBL locomotives being sold at ridiculous or dealer inflated prices have been featured several times on the 'ebay madness' thread. Would it not be preferable to keep such mentions to that thread rather than duplicating them on GBL, which has an altogether more sensible purpose. It seems a bit daft to clutter GBL up with what could get out of hand duplications. Regards It wasn't so much the price (which granted is a premium!), but the fact that the model is not yet available (and won't be for a couple of weeks!) so can't be supplied and is not in stock (unless it's a GBL employee moonlighting). Edited January 9, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Having a look at the peak and comparing it to a mainline class 45 if you have a spare chassis it should be easy to put the gbl body onto a mainline chassis. The difference between the bodies are the mounting points the gbl body has 3 mounting points where the chassis screws on. One in the middle and one each under the noses. There are 3 walls inside presumably for strengthening. If you remove the mounting points and walls the chassis should fit easily enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 It does say that it's available for pre-order. They're going for £24.99 on Amazon... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) That would be the wrong tender for the Southern Region allocation, would it not? From the picture, it would appear that a BR1B tender is to be supplied as fitted to the Southern allocations. Edited January 9, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 From the picture it would appear that a BR1B tender is to be supplied as Southern allocations Thanks. I wonder how it would look in malachite with some go-faster stripes? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Wow! A King Arthur! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) I now have two or three spare tenders! I trust a 'King Arthur' is not the Hornby one..... Edited January 9, 2015 by Il Grifone 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hi, Well thats another secret out!. The 76xxx 2-6-0 was of course very closely related to the 4MT tank as released as Issue 15. Now as to the GBL model - I did say some posts ago that the next issue after the 'C' would, I felt, please many. Yes its a previously not announced release - and there are at least five more unannounced locos due over the next three months. The 76xxx is copied from the Bachmann model of relatively recent years and is actually quite a good copy Looking at the model on the bench it is clearly one of the better GBL models and is likely to find much use by modellers. The finish is particularly pleasing with a good satin black finish and very neatly applied lining. Again the BR totem on the tender is very sharp and easily the equal of expensive decals. The model does not appear to have any significant dimensional problems. The only thing that does not ring quite true to my eyes is the dome, which seems to be slightly too 'square' looking. As my Bachmann loco is with a friend 260 miles away at the moment I cant compare them directly and looking at photos isnt totally reliable so i'm not 100 per cent sure - the jury's out on this until I can make a better comparison. The tender is a very good model in its own right and should be usefull for some other BR 'Standards' - perhaps with small alterations to such as the coal space - however it should be remembered that there were several small variations to what looked almost identical tenders that would need to be taken into account - especially those that were confined to Southern Region allocated locomotives. All in all this one is something to look forward too. Now its been asked whats next? - cant actually let the cat out of the bag but will say Its a good bet it will be another 'crowd pleaser'. Regards GBL 4MT sounds very good. Got a Bachmann 4mt which is a very good model ihmo, also a couple of Airfix kits that were built up to be motorised "one day". So I would have passed on the GBL one but your comments about the useful tender made me think that it could perhaps be converted into a BR1F tender that's needed for a 5MT I renumbered to an SR one that had one. Need to look into this in next 3 1/2 weeks.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) That would be the wrong tender for the Southern Region allocation, would it not? Some SR ones had the bigger tender (BR1B) 76053, 76060, 76066 certainly. Think there was a batch of the ones built for SR with the larger tender (like GBL) but will look for ref later. Edited January 9, 2015 by railroadbill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) I wasn't planning to make use of the GBL Peak or the 4MT Mogul, especially since the usual sources have long since dried up, but the more I look at them....... Having a look at the peak and comparing it to a mainline class 45 if you have a spare chassis it should be easy to put the gbl body onto a mainline chassis. The difference between the bodies are the mounting points the gbl body has 3 mounting points where the chassis screws on. One in the middle and one each under the noses. There are 3 walls inside presumably for strengthening. If you remove the mounting points and walls the chassis should fit easily enough. Class 45 bogie frames are still available from Replica.... Edited January 9, 2015 by Horsetan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmz06003 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 So if I understand this thread right the 45 is actually a 46? Some class 45s had the triangular grille under the main grill, from my pics of 45022 it certainly did so the GBL model is correct in this respect. All class 45s had the cross strengthening on the battery boxes, the GBL model doesn't so is not correct in this respect. The battery boxes are therefore class 46. There is another difference between these two classes, class 45s have a square hatch on one side only in front of the triangular grille wheras the class 46s don't. Not sure if any model manufacturers actually include this. 45022 ran with a special paint job for a while, silver grille surrounds, white cantrail stripe and red buffer beams. May make for a nice variation: https://www.flickr.com/photos/barry13092/4309303354/in/photolist-nkLec8-pu4ebX-fHwGzb-nttxB2-nKMN4E-bBs1GK-dozHpo-e3oiUd-7ibQxX-diC3t3-dx2DBp-5SBS5X-g4E38t-8bGL9U-8bDt86-bj7k8R-drZXiS-7yNiKG-8envXL-8bDthP-duSyGf-7ioMkY-jpib5s-eBRWcF-bjgb3k-fkHD32-c89UUW-decc45-brk2cZ-hs2XHG-f94nx2-7wdW7d-a54hNH-9QCDZJ-9QzKce-9QCE9L-nPxo5K-e3sJzS-kChUkV-cgWGY5-nbcfUx-cPgzTU-gXEv6T-98zEDK-p1HjCc-dg5TSA-4bVLyr-6a6gHW-8KMW7w-ajDFZm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 These buffer beams for peaks may be of interest http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/191459003729 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Downendian Posted January 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) The GBL peak certainly has class 46 battery box covers (or a representation of them). Struggled to find a decent broadside pic but this YouTube video of D172 illustrates it well from 1 min on. I guess most will be looking at spare Bachmann chassis to power these, but I've enough spare class 46 shells (nose seamless Bachmann release) to work on, and these need much less work by the look of it to this GBL release. Craftsman also provide white metal kits for peak buffer beams, I have one so fitted to the version of the Bachmann chassis that erroneously had the buffer assembly attached to the underside of the cab, Neil Edited January 9, 2015 by Downendian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete_mcfarlane Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 What next, build you own house in only twenty five thousand parts? Free brick in issue one... The house may not turn out quite as expected.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qFXR35oBKw 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Some SR ones had the bigger tender (BR1B) 76053, 76060, 76066 certainly. Think there was a batch of the ones built for SR with the larger tender (like GBL) but will look for ref later. 76046 to 76069 were the SR allocation with BR1B larger tenders, as per GBL. Southern also had 76005 to 76019 and 25 to 29 (smaller tender) but the Stratford ones also ended up on SR. Doesn't look like 70 and up were ever on SR. (BR motive power allocations 59-68, Ian Allen) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Could I run the mogul tender behind a 9F or a 75000? I know there was quite a few variants of tender. Also does the release of the mogul mean that there won't be a 75000? Cheers Shane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 ....Hopefully it will fit onto the Hornby tender chassis, bought a 9F body (92212) from Model Spares years ago but it came with a low bodied tender, hoping that the tender body swop will be easy and not out of place for the "Mogul". .... Whilst some of the BR 4MT Moguls had BR1B tenders, the rest were normally attached to BR2 or 2A tenders. None were known to have run with the large BR1A/G/H tenders which were usually found behind 7, 6, 5 and 9Fs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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