Il Grifone Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) The benzene compounds the lead was replaced with are no better - maybe even worse. Benzene is a carcinogen.... Lead was also used as a protection for electrical cables and the weights in Dublo locomotives are made of guess what... (Trix as well I think.) Early Dinky Toys were also made of it. Of course, it's still used for roof flashing. When we bought our present house we found we had a leak from the kitchen bow window. Investigation found there was no roofing material (nicked?). Our neighbours have lead flashing, but on discovering the price, we now have a bitumen based replacement. Edited January 12, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperordalek Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 To conclude this lead topic hopefully which Smiffy started - it reminds me of a wonderful line from a Laurel & Hardy film in which Stan(?) says "You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must always be lead..." - brilliant stuff! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emperordalek Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Great-British-Locomotives-Magazine-25-No-25-Wainwright-C-Class-Model-Train-/371225694658?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item566ec691c2 no comment on this one...... Just looked on the E-Bay link and the message appears; "This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing", which is a euphemism if ever there was one. At least this particular racketeer was been stopped for the time being. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted January 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2015 Hmm... just occurred to me I have 4771 but no 'King!' My subscription King only arrived today despite getting 4771 and the Caley Single already. Along with my subscription HST! Gary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Just looked on the E-Bay link and the message appears; "This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing", which is a euphemism if ever there was one. At least this particular racketeer was been stopped for the time being. Might be something to do with the fact that quite a few people have reported him..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 To conclude this lead topic hopefully which Smiffy started - it reminds me of a wonderful line from a Laurel & Hardy film in which Stan(?) says "You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must always be lead..." - brilliant stuff! IIRC it's from "Brats" - the film in which Stan and Ollie also play their own children! (And yes,it is said by Stan). Of course,pencil lead isn't lead at all - it's graphite. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45568 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Guys, guys, guys!!! L@@K!! Speshulley from Oz! Missing that elusive model? L@@k no further, here they are, at affordable prices, not even Mr Diffen this time Ivan! Tongue v. much in cheek, but the listing are real! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Coronation-AND-THE-DUCHESSClass-1947-Ex-LMS-stanier-Class-5MTBlack-Five4-6-0-/321640251635?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item4ae340c0f3 cheers from Oz, land of opportunity! Peter C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Is it this wednesday (i.e. tomorrow) that the C-class hits the shops?Thanks Adrian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I'd lost track and forgotten that the new model is due. SWMBO can get it for me - it's my birthday on Thursday! (Love pressies!). I'll give her the good news later or maybe tomorrow morning, when we get to Asda.. I now have about a couple of dozen of these things to motorise. The A4, Coronation and 4MT are no real problem* (started but not completed - of course!), but I wonder how many will actually get done. A T9 is a fairly high priority. *Dublo chassis, but they aren't quite a straight fit - I don't want to carve a slot in the 4MT bunker for example. Edited January 13, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Guys, guys, guys!!! L@@K!! Speshulley from Oz! Missing that elusive model? L@@k no further, here they are, at affordable prices, not even Mr Diffen this time Ivan! Tongue v. much in cheek, but the listing are real! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Coronation-AND-THE-DUCHESSClass-1947-Ex-LMS-stanier-Class-5MTBlack-Five4-6-0-/321640251635?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item4ae340c0f3 cheers from Oz, land of opportunity! Peter C. Not quite clear - it would appear that, despite the heading, you only get a Black 5 for this bargain price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Guys, guys, guys!!! L@@K!! Speshulley from Oz! Missing that elusive model? L@@k no further, here they are, at affordable prices, not even Mr Diffen this time Ivan! Tongue v. much in cheek, but the listing are real! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Coronation-AND-THE-DUCHESSClass-1947-Ex-LMS-stanier-Class-5MTBlack-Five4-6-0-/321640251635?pt=AU_Toys_Hobbies_Model_Railways&hash=item4ae340c0f3 cheers from Oz, land of opportunity! *facepalm* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 We could offer to swap him some Jason Donovan singles for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthawk Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I could have sworn it was only last week I bought a 'Peak', so shouldn't it be the 21st? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Yes, it will be the 21st. The Peak was released on January 7th. The 5MT will be February 4th. Publication is generally on the first and third Wednesday of each month. So maybe the King Arthur will be February 18th... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Positive thinking. If I wish hard enough... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I need some encouragement... A fine example of chimping on the T9 backdating. Spot the deliberate mistake... You can see what I've done. There is a ridge on the Hornby chassis onto which I fitted the GBL tender body. I should have removed that ridge and set the body lower. I think I can fix it, but I'm not sure how successful it will be. An order to Peter's Spares for a new underframe and out with the razor saw... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Grifone Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 (edited) I've said it before, but I will repeat myself. Just as long as the 'Arthur' isn't 'Sir Dinadan'! I thought I wasn't wrong about the 'C' not being due - oh well I'll just have to get her as a late birthday present. Probably the confusion arose because the BR mogul was announced early (just to keep us on our toes?). Edited January 14, 2015 by Il Grifone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2015 Dick, did you stick the chassis to the body? If you can get them apart it should be quite easy to shave the that ridge off. It looks like you might have made the body a tad to short too, the front edge of the frames are naked. But if you cut them off, no-one will notice, and I won't tell! If you really do chimp it up, I'll happily take the knackered chassis off your hands ;-) Andy G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I've got the frames off and made a false base, should be able to bodge that. Making static models is easy! The front is a problem, and I think may be due to a design difference in the tenders, but it's a hard place to see on photos and Russell isn't very helpful. The frames are too long, but the tender footplate is in the right place. Overall the length seems OK (I'll check it later). I think that some bodging might work there, as well, as it's essentially hidden. I'm trying to change this one, and I'll do some photos in a moment, but I've discovered that the Hornby chassis side frames are separate pieces - if I'd known that at the beginning it would have made things easier - so I've made a plastikard floor to take the side frames and the axle supports. I can get the necessary parts easily enough, but a new tender is coming in at twice the cost of the GBL in the first place! But in general the prototype is a learning experience and is expendable. The knackered chassis is now dust and splinters, I'm afraid! You should see the fun I'm having with an E2... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2015 Ah the joys of bodging! Could it be that the dimension issue is actually in the lining up of the wheelbase? Is the front axle to far forward? There seems to be something not quite right there. The rear axle seems a long way from the rear of the body. Heres a Hornby T9 tender to compare: Nothing you won't be able to sort out mind! (If the pile of dust has the bits that support the axles and has the pick-ups still they will be useable, as I have to put different sideframes on anyway!) Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Looking at the drawings in Russell (p207) both the tender body and frames are about spot on except for the projection at the front behind the steps, which needs removing. The wheels are correct to within less than a millimetre. The central wheel isn't quite in the centre of the tender in the drawing, a matter of five real-life inches. So the frames needs to come back a smidgin. It doesn't help that the buffer beam is off at the moment, so there's nothing for the frames to butt up against. I think the buffer beam has to go on next. I wish I'd got a whole Hornby tender, but since the GBL model came out they've been rare! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2015 The 6 wheel tenders have always been like rocking horse doings.... I've been trying to find them for my HR Bens and Barneys for several years now! Strange that the Hornby tender is wrong, but it works for HR ones! Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowanj Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 But isn't this the value of these models for those of us who aspire to be modellers, to develop skills and acquire something a bit different from RTR? If mistakes are made, they can usually be corrected with filler or plastic strip, and it hasn't cost a fortune. And the second attempt is better than the first. Keep on chimping, Dick, and posting your efforts. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Thanks Rowan, I most certainly shall. I might start a chimping thread. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted January 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 13, 2015 Oh please do. I learn lots from watching others! Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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