RMweb Premium Brit70053 Posted September 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2015 Is it late yet? Not due until tomorrow at the earliest, though I have seen it suggested it might not appear until the 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railroadbill Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It was tounge in cheek I could also have added class 21 and baby Deltics. The 31s were poor when built and have always seemed to me to be underpowered. That said there are still a few out on the mainline at there grand old age which is pretty good going. Those English Electric engines were built to last (except for the ones in baby Deltics) class 20s and 37s going strong and class 08s. (08s should have qualified for a great British locomotive model) I would have had a GBL 31, but not to be, sigh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34theletterbetweenB&D Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The 31s were poor when built and have always seemed to me to be underpowered. That said there are still a few out on the mainline at there grand old age which is pretty good going... Technically, all the Brush type 2 were built as what became TOPS class 30 with the Mirrlees engine, the class 31 is the re-engined unit. As early pilot scheme machines built against a BR spec which included steam heating gear and a very restrictive axle load requirement, they came out 'heavyweight', much as the BR and EE DE type 4s, and the NDL DH type 4, all machines also with unpowered carrying wheels. The BR spec. was somewhat revised as experience was gained and later pilot scheme type 2's could just be squeaked onto an acceptable axle load for the BoBo format to be used. (There were some mutterings at the time that 'special weighbridges' had been used to get some of these designs to qualify.) But the truth will out in the long run, as a look at what survived longest in service confirms. All the BoBo type 2s with pilot scheme origins are long gone, and all but one of the pilot scheme origin types in power classes 1, 3, 4 and 5 come to that; while the Brush class 31 plods on, alongside the EE class 20. The other long term in-service survivors are second generation designs, classes 33, 37 and 47, designs which benefitted greatly from the first generation experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Time for a "not likely to appear" second series wishlist? How about some Modern Image locos: Class 08 Class 20 Class 25 Class 31 Class 76/EM1 Class 77/EM2 Class 81/AL1/E3001 APT-P And for steam: Princess Coronation (unstreamlined) Fowler SDJR 2-8-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD0-6-0 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I would have as many SD&JR 7F 2-8-0s as the real class, a lovely looking loco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I think we have enough possibles to fill another series especially as "Modern Image" has hardly even been touched. Just off the top of my head and using mostly older models to copy whilst trying to avoid obviously similar prototypes. Modern : 03/04, 08/09, 20, 24/25, 26/27/33, 29, 31, 35, 37, 40, 42/43, 50, 56, 58, 59/66, 60, 67, 73, 81, 85, 86, 87, 90, 91, 92, APT GWR: 14xx, 56xx, 61xx, 42xx/52xx/72xx, 94xx, 2251 Collett Goods, 2301 Dean Goods, 32xx Dukedog, Dean Single, 43xx, Saint/Star, Hall/Grange/Manor, Diesel Rail Car LMS: Fowler 4P 2-6-4T, 2P 4-4-0, 4F 0-6-0, Crab 2-6-0, Ivatt 2MT 2-6-0, Patriot 4-6-0, Jubilee 4-6-0, LNWR 0-8-0, S&DJR 2-8-0, Duchess 4-6-2 LNER: J50, J52, J72, J94, L1, N2, V1/V3, B1, B17, D49, O4 SR: A1X Terrier, M7, E2, Q1, N15, Rebuilt Bulleid Pacific BR: 5MT 4-6-0, WD 2-8-0 Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Oops I've started a wish list. Class 303 Runs away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) I think we have enough possibles to fill another series especially as "Modern Image" has hardly even been touched...... In fact, almost everything that has ever been produced in 4mm scale RTR.... Edited September 8, 2015 by Horsetan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiffy2 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The Atlas Editions (sort-of TT, continental and UK prototypes) included things that had never been made RTR, such as the Crampton, that streamlined German thingy and so on. This must surely have meant that instead of just measuring an existing RTR they did the design work themselves. How different GBL would have been if they had taken the same approach. But probably heavily compromised on detail. We could have had some great 19th century locos, even some broad gauge. That would have been fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Oops I've started a wish list. Class 303 Runs away Naughty darrel! You can't have an emu as its not a loco. Look what happened with the HST issue - one power car..... Otherwise I'd also add classes 503 and perhaps 502, for their historical importance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spet0114 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Look what happened with the HST issue - one power car..... Just imagine the size of the backing card if they'd done a complete formation!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted September 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2015 Naughty darrel! You can't have an emu as its not a loco. Look what happened with the HST issue - one power car..... Otherwise I'd also add classes 503 and perhaps 502, for their historical importance! The Del Prado "locomotives of the world" series included the odd multiple unit. Just one coach each, though for the articulated ETR-300 they had to include a little bit of the next coach so that they could fit the whole bogie in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Howe Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Oops I've started a wish list. You'd be in trouble if a certain ex-contributor to this thread was still here! Cheers Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46256 Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Dear all if this thread has been anything...it surely has to have been.....fun..enjoyment...the speculation...anticipation...debate on what is or isn't a worthy candidate for the accolade of gbl..the conversion..improvement?.adaptation...in conclusion it's been a great journey and to all my fellow travellers......thank you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted September 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 8, 2015 Dear all if this thread has been anything...it surely has to have been.....fun..enjoyment...the speculation...anticipation...debate on what is or isn't a worthy candidate for the accolade of gbl..the conversion..improvement?.adaptation...in conclusion it's been a great journey and to all my fellow travellers......thank you Apart from the cut-price first model, I haven't bought any of these (though I might well have gone for the Western if I'd seen one in the shops). But I have very much enjoyed seeing what other people have been doing. I suspect this isn't quite what the publishers had in mind for this series, but it does seem to have caused enjoyment to plenty of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiptonian Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Dear all if this thread has been anything...it surely has to have been.....fun..enjoyment...the speculation...anticipation...debate on what is or isn't a worthy candidate for the accolade of gbl..the conversion..improvement?.adaptation...in conclusion it's been a great journey and to all my fellow travellers......thank you "...in conclusion it's been a great journey" sounds like it's the end. It may be the end of the series, but I feel it isn't the end of modifications. We could see post starting with "the other day I found a GBL Class XYZ I had forgotten about, and wondered....." for many years to come. Have faith, fellow travellers. The journey is not over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08-362 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 "...in conclusion it's been a great journey" sounds like it's the end. It may be the end of the series, but I feel it isn't the end of modifications. We could see post starting with "the other day I found a GBL Class XYZ I had forgotten about, and wondered....." for many years to come. Have faith, fellow travellers. The journey is not over. Very true, I like to believe that we'll see many more conversions in the future. I myself have a few planned, I'm just waiting for my meagre income to build up enough to support some of them. Also of note, the build a solar system partwork has recently started circulating again. It's a very long shot but by that idea it could be possible that GBL makes a revised comeback in a few years or Amercom may have the next series in the wings. It's just a case of waiting to see what happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Now in primer and almost finished this can claim a right to being on this thread as the boiler, smokebox (Although cut back a bit) and the boiler back head came from a GBL T9 (Here's a link to the build thread) http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/77470-steves-caledonian-loco-work-bench/?p=1973573 A Caledonian 492 class 0-8-0 tank. Don't worry not a waste of the T9 as the cab, splashers and tender have gone onto at least two other projects as well. Your right this has been fun and the I've learnt a lot from all the conversions that have been put on here and I've got enough GBL in stock to keep me going for years. Steve Edited September 9, 2015 by Londontram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Also of note, the build a solar system partwork has recently started circulating again. Yes, the solar system does that.In fact,it's never stopped circulating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJS1977 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 I think we have enough possibles to fill another series especially as "Modern Image" has hardly even been touched. Just off the top of my head and using mostly older models to copy whilst trying to avoid obviously similar prototypes. Modern : 03/04, 08/09, 20, 24/25, 26/27/33, 29, 31, 35, 37, 40, 42/43, 50, 56, 58, 59/66, 60, 67, 73, 81, 85, 86, 87, 90, 91, 92, APT Some of those weren't particularly "Great" locos though (e.g. 29), and the 59/66 and 67 aren't British... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londontram Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 The LMS twins would have been nice Question, when there cloning a model do they just scan it or actually take a mold off it as if they just scan it couldn't they have just scanned a real loco and then the range could have included some locos that there were never models of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Would need a bigger scanner though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Well, is locomotion out yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midland_Red Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Just rang my local WHS where I have GBL on order. Issue 41 is in, but I can't collect it until tomorrow so don't know the scale etc of Locomotion yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Coryton Posted September 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Some of those weren't particularly "Great" locos though (e.g. 29), and the 59/66 and 67 aren't British... Depends on your definition, doesn't it? The 59's weren't made or designed in Britain, but it's where they have spent their lives so far (ignoring 59 003). Moreover, they were commissioned by a UK company and designed specifically for the UK (and, if the stories are to be believed, the exterior styling was supposed to be based on the class 52 - but was it based on the real thing or the Lima model?) Edited September 9, 2015 by Coryton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now