avonside1563 Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Besides the woman who ducks under once the barriers are down, what about all the lemmings running to duck under as the barriers come down, I noticed that they were all still on the other side of the crossing... how pointless, not to mention stupid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIZ Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Good god. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26351140 hope she has plenty of toilet roll in her bag and bet the blond woman now has a headache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 And the stupidity is not just found at level crossings. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-18008613 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted February 26, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2014 And the stupidity is not just found at level crossings. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-18008613 Speechless. The things people do whilst in their cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2014 And she'll be allowed to vote!!!! Jamie If she doesn't try any more moronic tricks before the next election......! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2014 Speechless. The things people do whilst in their cups. The problem should gradually decrease so long as these idiots remove themselves from the gene pool before they breed. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted February 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2014 The problem should gradually decrease so long as these idiots remove themselves from the gene pool before they breed. John Take down all the warning signs, improve the gene pool! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Come on folks, let's remember it'snot their fault. Somebody else is to blame. Who? Probably the government or the selfish sod who invented railways! Unfortunately the safer everything is made for the braindead themore they will show how stupid they can be. If only there was some way to protect the train drivers from the horror of watching these morons, and worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scouser Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Oh, just had an idea ( that's rare ) instead of having barriers and big red flashing lights at level crossings , why not use really highpowered lasers? By the time the train gets there the remains would just be dust . Now is that thinking outside the box or what? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted February 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2014 The problem should gradually decrease so long as these idiots remove themselves from the gene pool before they breed. It's not pleasant reading replies like this. CCTV from other days would show that the vast majority of people do behave sensibly, so how about a bit less jumping to conclusions? That person may have learning difficulties, or some other mental disability. And not necessarily genetic, it could be from a head injury. Just be thankful you have a fully-functioning brain and the wits to understand the world around you. Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted February 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2014 It's not pleasant reading replies like this. CCTV from other days would show that the vast majority of people do behave sensibly, so how about a bit less jumping to conclusions? That person may have learning difficulties, or some other mental disability. And not necessarily genetic, it could be from a head injury. Just be thankful you have a fully-functioning brain and the wits to understand the world around you. Martin. Quite honestly Martin you would have to be reasonably agile to jump off a station platform like that and even more so to climb back onto one. The final person in the clip appeared t be inebriated and was rather oddly heading towards a platform which was on the other side of a train - however judging by his attitude of surprise when he landed I did wonder if he was from beyond our shores and had expected a much lower platform level. Some of the others looked like little more than very stupid so called 'bravado' and they seemed to know exactly what they were doing - I for one sincerely hope that they were collared and prosecuted as I would far sooner see such idiots standing in the dock than I would be shoving various parts of their anatomy into a black plastic sack; once is more than enough of that thank you very much. I'm sorry if my attitude appears harsh but I have seen the results of such stupid behaviour and I have had to contend with the mentally ill - they are very different and the latter usually involves lots of hesitation and indecision in my experience. And I have had to deal with Drivers who suffered the long term mental effects of running into such idiots or - in one case - the unguarded small child of such folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold martin_wynne Posted February 27, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2014 I for one sincerely hope that they were collared and prosecuted as I would far sooner see such idiots standing in the dock than I would be shoving various parts of their anatomy into a black plastic sack No argument with that Mike. I was responding to the unpleasant post I quoted. A decapitated kid has a mum and dad, whether he was drunk or not. They might even read RMweb. Martin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roythebus Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I was actually in the public gallery at Canterbury Crown Court when Mr.Alston's case was being heard. Had the CPS brought the alternative charge of driving without due care and attention, then he would almost certainly have been found guilty, but that charge cannot be heard in a crown court, only magistrates! The usual penalty is a Fixed Penalty Notice, £60 fine and 3 points. The judge pointed that out in his summing up. I met Mr.Alston; he didn't strike me as senile. He's a lifelong RHDR supporter and was surprised that a train was running that early in the morning! It could be that the RHDR should fit low level repeater lights as those fitted high cannot be seen in the morning with the sun right behind them. The CCTV from the adjacent SPAR shop clearly showed the sequence of events, including the defendant clearly going out of the shop, carefully starting his car, carefully reversing out of the car park and into the road. an oncoming car stopped to let him have right of way, but he failed to look properly at the crossing lights. That in itself is dangerous, but his driving was probably not dangerous. I say that as a professional driver, and ex-railway driver and RHDR member! Careless, yes. I've heard the RHDR has now obtained funding for barriers at the remaining unfitted level crossings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob S Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) I was actually in the public gallery at Canterbury Crown Court when Mr.Alston's case was being heard. Had the CPS brought the alternative charge of driving without due care and attention, then he would almost certainly have been found guilty, but that charge cannot be heard in a crown court, only magistrates! The usual penalty is a Fixed Penalty Notice, £60 fine and 3 points. The judge pointed that out in his summing up................................ A good post. It's nice to read an objective and well informed assessment of the incident. Perhaps the Court was wise in this case, IMHO. Cheers Bob Edited March 1, 2014 by Bob S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted March 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 2, 2014 I was actually in the public gallery at Canterbury Crown Court when Mr.Alston's case was being heard. interesting read roy, ok, you say his driving wasn't dangerous, he's not senile etc but why was he allowed to sit next to his barrister and why are we paying his costs? strikes me as he(or his legal team) knew how to play the system by getting it in to the crown court knowing he wouldn't (or couldn't) get the sentence that he should have had coming to him had it gone to magistates and it would be thrown out the whole thing bloody well stinks to high heaven!! you say that the RHDR should fit low level lights at the crossings, heres an idea get the ever upstanding Mr Alston, being a lifelong supporter to dip into his obviously very deep pockets and shell out for a few to be fitted, probably cheaper than the cost of a lawyer for his next court apperance!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I met Mr.Alston; he didn't strike me as senile. He's a lifelong RHDR supporter and was surprised that a train was running that early in the morning! Doesn't part of the Railways LRO state that the first train of the day has to run at 15mph, so they run one of the diesels with the tool van as a track inspection train, which is what kept waking me up at 6am when we stayed at Dungeness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Just heard on the radio: "Network Rail should aim for zero deaths on level crossings" No sh1t Sherlock, what were they aiming for? Ed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold StuAllen Posted March 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2014 Just read this.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26478145 I'm interested by the quote - "Victims were erroneously described as 'trespassers' or accused of 'misuse' of the railway when, in fact, they tried to use level crossings appropriately." Are there many incidents where it's the level crossing that hasn't worked properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2014 Just heard on the radio: "Network Rail should aim for zero deaths on level crossings" No sh1t Sherlock, what were they aiming for? Ed I wonder what motorists and pedestrians should be aiming for then? Sloppy sensationalist reporting yet again. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 In the case of Elsenham, that was truly tragic and when an accident occurs due to either human or mechanical failings, it is perfectly acceptable that someone should be held accountable. What I find distasteful is any suggestion that NR should somehow carry the can with regard to deaths and injuries as a result of drink, drugs or lack of grey matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 . Why aren't the same standards applied to zebra or pelican crossings ? What is it about reporters (and at least one court) that they blame National Rail rather than people who do something reckless ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete 75C Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 What is it about reporters (and at least one court) that they blame National Rail rather than people who do something reckless ? Because it's easy to blame a sometimes faceless corporation. If they blamed the "victim" on camera or in print, I doubt they would have a journalism career beyond reporting on a fete for a local rag. Don't forget, we live in an age where somebody always has to be to blame for everything. Apparently, there are no "accidents" any more. Progress, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTM Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I wonder what motorists and pedestrians should be aiming for then? Sloppy sensationalist reporting yet again. Mike. A good point, Mike. If we all individually tried to live with the aim of zero injuries, then nothing would ever get done. I'm going to be blasted from a height for suggesting this but we have to accept a level of injuries and deaths on the roads and railways if we want to enjoy the freedom of travelling that we currently have. Jon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin_m Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 There was a fatality recently at an AHB near Oxford when the car broke down on the crossing, the driver couldn't get it moving and one of the occupants was a wheelchair user so couldn't get out in the short time before the barriers descended and a train arrived. That would seem to be a truly unusual set of circumstances where despite all reasonably practicable measures being taken there was still an accident. Which didn't prevent someone on another forum arguing that it was a reason all crossings should become MCB/CCTV types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted March 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2014 There was a recent incident at a crossing in Suffolk where a person died, initially it looked like an accident then a "friend" was going to be charged with murder but this was dropped to assisting suicide - not sure what NR can do to prevent such incidents so the count is never going to be zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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