RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted October 23, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 23, 2016 Following on from my scratchbuilt petrol station and period houses, I've knocked up some scratchbuilt shops! Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr This little parade is based on the real life Uxbridge Road that sits just North of Kensington Olympia, and I've tried to replicate this as closely as possible. Each shop is based on one on the real road itself, and scratchbuilt in card and styrene strip. Here's how it went... Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr The starting point was the original sketch, then scaled and drawn onto mounting card. Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Windows were cut out and experimental brickwork effect card added with the help of some ancient Scott Mills podcasts! Later, the window detail was created with small cuts of styrene strip to build up the frames, I've not gone for translucent windows as this is a low-relief set of shops that will sit on the back scene opposite the BP petrol station. There will however be some indulgent shop interiors in the lower floors! Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr The shops were test fitted on Worthing MRC's Loftus Road to see how it went, and cut-outs made for the giant glazing of the shop fronts on the ground floor... Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr I was feeling a bit fancy so have experimented with light up shop display signs - these were cut out behind where the graphics will sit, and a bulb or LED will sit behind to illuminate. More and more pieces of styrene strip were added too. Billie is recommended when tackling a Chicken Cottage. Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr I then had some annual leave the other week and turned the shop fronts into a 3D building - just modelling the frontage of the building but with a decent depth for the shop interiors. Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr The shop interiors themselves were knocked up from some simple cardboard, which was then laminated in my custom-made shop interiors. Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Much like my previous petrol station, these are designed in Corel Draw and based on numerous prototype photographs to get them just right! The graphics and signage was probably the most time consuming part of the project - it had to be 100% correct or the effect would be ruined!! The model was then assembled and further detailing added, including security alarms, CCTV, satellite dishes, drainpipes, cable runs and more. Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr I like the variety of shops that a London prototype brings, makes for something a bit different to Skaledale! Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr And of course, where would we be without a cheeky Nandos! Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr The interior was all scratchbuilt from card and some Preiser food and drink added to the tables and painted up like a decent hot wing platter! Make mine a double chicken wrap with peri fries and spicy rice..! The Archbishop of Banterbury can just be seen eating at the back. Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr We can also see the iconic Chicken Cottage - this version is one of the recently refurbished stores with new layout, clean and shiny awaiting a lively 3am brawl from the post-clubbing set! Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr My fruit and veg shop - the Kabul Gate Supermarket sits pretty with its Lycamobile sponsorship, this will later be detailed with big racks of fruit outside the shop and some PayPoint branding. We will unlock your Apple iPhone for cheap! Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Finally something for the winners and losers - William Hill for the betters and Cash Converters for when it all goes pear shaped! Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Here's the shops temporarily set down in the street, they do need a fair bit of work to get them buried, but will soon look like they've always been there! Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Panning out further, this is the street scene opposite the BP petrol station - this will one day be a vibrant buzzing Uxbridge Road - give me a couple more months! Scratchbuilt shops for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by James Makin by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Not long now until our Warley appearance this November, it's all cranking up in terms of the scenics and there's plenty more on the way! I've only just seen this James.......you're such a nutcase!! I'll show you how to get the most realistic looking Peco track in the world if you'll teach me how to build stuff like this. Pure brilliance!! Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted November 6, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 6, 2016 Loftus Road has been a hive of activity lately while the Warley show looms ever closer. We've got gang members relaying the third rail, rewiring electrics and new carry cases being built for our boards, with plenty more to follow. Things have been going well on the scenic front too - I've just finished this scratchbuilt pub, so we've got another new building going up on Loftus! Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr The Jolly Butcher is my take on a modern-day urban pub, inspired by the now-closed 'Duke of Edinburgh' pub on the corner of Richmond Way, London W14, just to the North West of Kensington Olympia - a stone's throw from the period houses of Sinclair Gardens I'd built earlier this year. Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr There's quite a few cool pubs in the area, and I've brought together my favourite attributes from each in this model, and bringing in a sports theme, and England bunting as well! What's in a name? We have quite a few cues to Loftus Road Worthing MRC gang members amongst our existing street names and branding, this pub is a nod to Mark Butcher, our scenic greenery guru who's recently been transforming the layout, like the model equivalent of Alan Titchmarsh! Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr I started the model back in August, it's one of the more challenging projects I've worked on due to all the decorative fiddly bits on the prototype, it would be easy to leave out but there's no fun in that! Here's how it started... Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr The bare shell of cardboard was knocked up in a flash, and covered in Dornaplas window frames for starters. It was then covered in brick paper from Scalescenes, which was then subject to some weathering to tone it down - using Humbrol 62 and 186. Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr This was then placed into it's end location to see how it could look... Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Lots more bits needed to be added next - this is what took the time! Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr The fiddly lower window frames have had approx 22 separate pieces of styrene strip added for each window, I foolishly also did all of the detailing at the top of the building with individual plastic bits and the beading that runs across above the pub sign...seemed easy at the start but soon got mind numbing!! On the right hand end of the building was a couple of houses, one of them a dentist surgery. Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr With the fiddly glueing all complete, it was soon time to slap on the paint and then move to some of the detailing, including custom pub signage, menu boards and advertising. Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr I couldn't resist adding the England bunting onto the pub, presumably our layout is set in a Euros or World Cup year! Each of the bunting pieces were cut from a thin piece of white card, and the red cross painted on later. The magnificent Sophie Ellis-Bextor is recommended listening for when scratchbuilding bunting. Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Pub signs and adverts were created in CorelDraw and added to the building. Satellite dishes were scratchbuilt from thin plasticard, cut in a hole punch, with a little bit of wire for the antennae bit. This was Mark's idea, us both having seen that Bachmann want to charge a crazy £11 for the same items ready to run! Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Security alarms were added from chopped styrene strip and painted wire-runs, and custom street signs created again in CorelDraw. Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr One of the conditions of continuing to gain funding from our WMRC club treasurer for Loftus Road was that the pub had to feature a Guinness advert somewhere, this duly appears on the left below - 'Made of More'! Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr The model was varnished to complete, and is currently in the process of being 'planted' into its final location on the left hand end of Loftus Road. Scratchbuilt pub by James Makin for Worthing MRC Loftus Road by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr It's now 20 days until the Warley show and we're still hard at work - there will be at least two more exciting scenic additions due to be unveiled prior to the show, so watch this space! 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby (John) Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 More great work James, I'll see you at Warley and look forward to getting this to DEMU Showcase next year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted November 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2016 More great work James, I'll see you at Warley and look forward to getting this to DEMU Showcase next year. Thanks very much John, very much looking forward to going up to Showcase! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy7 Posted November 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2016 Really looking forward to seeing this layout at Warley. Excellent work as always James. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Hi James Just having a catch up on your thread and WOW!! The shops and pub are simply amazing. The attention to detail is superb especially when it comes to the shop interiors. Can almost smell the fried chicken from here. 1st class modelling indeed. Great work. Cheers Marcus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted November 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) I'm at Warley both days James so I'm looking forward to catching up......I can even bring along an HST that'll drown out the noise from the entire show! More great work on the buildings too mate, they look awesome Edited November 7, 2016 by scoobyra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted November 7, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2016 I'm at Warley both days James so I'm looking forward to catching up......I can even bring along an HST that'll drown out the noise from the entire show! More great work on the buildings too mate, they look awesome Lovely stuff, look forward to catching up! The noisy HST might be just the ticket, my 'Fag Packet' set is fitted with a pair of soundchips but you struggle to hear anything!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRDBLUE17 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Superb modelling again James. Looks like I'll finally get to see it at showcase next year. Thanks Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 I can't wait to see this at Warley Amazing skills Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted November 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2016 I can't wait to see this at Warley Amazing skills You won't be disappointed Adrian, it's really good and the guys that built it are very good modellers and nice people. I got some great modelling advice from them too which some people just don't seem to want to share! Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempfix Rich Papper Posted November 26, 2016 Tempfix Share Posted November 26, 2016 Really enjoyed seeing this at Warley today, thank you. And of course we'll done with all the new editions. As an indication of quality it was the only thing that made my 5 year old nephew stand still for more than 30 seconds all day. I thought we were going to have to take the barrier with us to shift him! Rich 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium blackpete Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2016 Layout looked fantastic at Warley. The Cross rail excavation impressed as did the pub. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoitsPlayer Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Has anyone any photos from Warley please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted November 27, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2016 Has anyone any photos from Warley please? I've got a full update coming on the brand new scenic section unveiled at Warley tomorrow - something big, menacing and super expensive has arrived at Loftus Road, nothing will stand in it's way...one word...Crossrail! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2016 I've got a full update coming on the brand new scenic section unveiled at Warley tomorrow - something big, menacing and super expensive has arrived at Loftus Road, nothing will stand in it's way...one word...Crossrail! James, When's it next on the road? I was supposed to be there yesterday but plans had to change. I cannot believe I still haven't seen the layout after all this time. (Not to mention I think it must be getting close to 10 years since I last spoke to you at a show...) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Goddard Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) Hello there - I found out about this site while visiting the Warley show today and signed up after reading this thread just to say an enormous WELL DONE to everyone involved with this amazingly accurate and detailed layout. I spent longer looking at this layout than I think any other at the show and having seen the photos on here I see there is a whole host of incredible detail that I didn't even notice - the thought, observation and planning that has gone into every tiny detail of every aspect of this project is mind-boggling. From the little touches like the realistic graffiti on some of the rolling stock and the "Sausagefest" snack wagon (fnarr fnarr), the stunning representations of London streets at the "north" end and the petrol station and incredible shop interiors which are an absolute work of art, this really is something special. Well done to all the team involved. (By the way, I was the one who joked about the petrol prices being unrealistic for London in 2016 - yep, that was me!) (edit) Actually, can a witch put a spell on me and shrink me down to OO/HO scale? I want to live on the layout in one of those townhouses Edited November 28, 2016 by Dave Goddard 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted November 27, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2016 Good to see LR behaving itself this weekend and I'm afraid the big hole at the right hand end trumps James' shops (sorry James). I took a video with my phone stuck on top of the left hand road bridge of the XC HST and when I showed it to my wife just now, she said 'I thought you were going to a model train show not train spotting? That's when you know you've built yourself a fantastic layout. Well done guys and great to see you again. Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevescan Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Buildings are superb James, love them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post James Makin Posted November 28, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) As mentioned earlier in the thread, this weekend was one we'd been counting down to for a long time now - Warley! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr It must've been a couple of year's notice away but amazing how the time flew vs the modelling we'd needed to complete to get the layout in a decent condition! I'm pleased to say that we made it, and am writing this now looking back on a very successful and enjoyable weekend! Now first things first, eagle-eyed readers may have noticed all the previous modelling action was taking place on the 'North' end of the layout...what about the 'South' end? Our makeshift church scene has finally made way for something substantial - Crossrail has arrived! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Cutting a huge swathe through London, we had to give a nod to 21st Century progress; our model is inspired by several of the notable Crossrail access points including Tottenham Court Road. We've got a big shaft! Centrepiece of the display is Loftus gangmember Chris Sweeney's huge Baldwins crane, utilising the Kibri kit, and no doubt a lot of patience! The rest was a team effort, Mark Butcher landscaping the building site flooring and I mucked in with some hoardings, building site barriers and general site detailing. Here's what it ended up like... Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr We've got an entrance site point, I poured over zillions of photos to get the doors just right, pedestrian access points, graphics and more - it's all very much work in progress I must stress! Chris assembled some fantastic portakabins with interior detail, and I've slapped some Crossrail and BBMV (contractor) logos about the place. The funky barriers are laser-cut items from Scale Model Scenery, as are the taller metal ones too, all painted up in appropriate colours. Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Here's the big shaft itself... Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Having decided to model this, there was discussion over what could be used to give a good impression of the great access shafts, and after some experimentation, I suggested we use the below - believe it or not, this Cadbury's cocoa tin is Crossrail! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr It'd sat around at the club since the mid-1980s carrying mouldy old scatter, so it's nice to see it now living a glamorous life at last! Chris lined the tin with concrete block material, and I took it home to cover the bottom in 'mud' and fit a central platform for stair access... Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr I knocked this platform up while trying to avoid getting heady on glue - fairly basic construction but ready for a good detailing session and some additional lighting! Scenic guru Mark Butcher then levelled the former Church ground area (much like real London!) to make way for the Crossrail building site. Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Lots of painting and weathering later, and it started to come together! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr I made some hoardings in CorelDraw, based on examples seen around the various Crossrail building sites, while trying to get my head round the A-Z of building site Health & Safety...bare with me if there's slight omissions as yet and happy to take further advice to make this 100% accurate! Now following the accuracy theme, most of the workers can actually be found down the road at the snack bar... Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Meanwhile, work was going on elsewhere, I put in a couple of new advertising hoardings down near the shops at the 'North' end of the layout - Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr A couple of re-finished Oxford Diecast British Gas vans are present at the evacuation scene at Browning Tool Supplies below, I wonder if that's related? Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Anyway, before we knew it, time to down the modelling tools and get ready for showtime! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr After a reasonable journey up to the NEC and via Beaconsfield (Nandos and Wetherspoons - Britain's best services) we joined the back of the queue to drive the vans into the hall. At which point our trusty van driver Mark Stevens nearly ran over Pete Waterman. Nearly a disastrous end for O gauge modellers across the country! Come Saturday, at times we were unto about 4 deep, we've never had such a big audience to come see our little slice of London! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Most interestingly, we also experienced a temporary power cut across the block of 5 or 6 layouts near us, at about 2pm on Saturday, we were left feeling like lemons in the middle of a dead layout, with numerous onlookers, no doubt thinking that we'd aligned our operation to Southern Railway! Thankfully it only lasted 10 minutes, but it felt like a very, very long 10 minutes! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr We stocked a decent display in the fiddle yard, between us we reckon we can probably fill this several times using our own individual collections so there's always a small 'discussion' that takes place as to who gets what roads (and for vanity purposes I like mine at the front!) After a hard day on the feet, we like a good curry (model railway cliche alert) - my boss is from Birmingham so recommended the Jilabi just off the A45 nearby to the NEC, she wasn't wrong! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr It must've been the busiest Indian that we've ever been in, almost constant coach loads of people would arrive and then disappear, hardly anyone was seen to leave - we thought there must've been a slide out the back, with diners then recirculating back indoors - crazy stuff! Chicken Tikka Balti with garlic & cheese naan & Chicken Tikka rice is my standard preference (you didn't need to know but for the record). Anyway, back to the layout, the road vehicles have seen more detailing, with a finishing in matt varnish, right hand drive conversions and numberplates in the correct font for the UK (a pet bugbear of mine with some of the professional model railway vehicle detailing companies!) Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Mark Butcher's 'Hellman' class 47 in Colas made a colourful debut on the layout - utilising a cheap Heljan body mated to a Bachmann '47' underframe - and interesting combination! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Something else orange also appeared on the layout for the first time...and unbeknown to me, got later placed into the scrap train during Sunday afternoon! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr And in a flash, the weekend was over, exhausted, we packed away the layout and headed back for a dark, cold Worthing! Loftus Road by Worthing MRC by jamesmakin2002, on Flickr Overall, it was a great weekend away, our busiest exhibition by far, some great times were had and good to meet up with a number of RMWebbers too! Going forward, our sights turn to 2017 where we have the DEMU Showcase exhibition, and with the major building work complete, it will be time to ramp up the scenic detailing and cameos! Cheers, James Edited November 28, 2016 by James Makin 25 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdw7300 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Great write up James and fantastic work team on the Crossrail works. It really does look amazing in the flesh. I wondered why you were all looking a bit lost, cleaning bits of track on Saturday afternoon. It was one of the only times the crowd wasn't several people deep! So glad I've seen Loftus in the flesh. Can't wait to see it again at DEMU. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike B Posted November 28, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 28, 2016 I'm so glad you posted all those pictures because I missed so much at warley......I could quite happily sit and look at it for hours. Without disrespecting anyone else at the show, I said to quite a few people, Loftus Road is where I need to be bench marking my effort and if I get it half as good I'll be pleased as punch. It's the attention to detail that I really like and the way you've captured the 'real world' - ok, we all know modelling has it's limits but I like to try and see where those limits are....and that's exactly what your doing....pushing the boundaries. And without having my tongue stuck up anyone's a... I'm glad I bumped in to you guys because you've helped me improve my modelling skills by at least 500% whilst having a lot of fun, and that's what it's all about. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted November 29, 2016 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted November 29, 2016 Thanks very much for all the great feedback guys! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig1989 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Layout looked fantastic looking forward to seeing it at demu next year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Never mind the 'show bargains' Loftus Road was my one and only reason for going to Warley this year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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