A Nod To Brent - a friendly thread, filled with frivolity, cream teas and pasties. Longing for the happy days in the South Hams 1947.

[westerner]

Reminds me I really ought to get some on the platforms of Wencombe.

Edited August 26, 2013 by westerner

[gwrrob]

I've had a prompt reply back from Art Printers concerning my bespoke backscene.A very reasonable £5 extra on top of their usual £10 inclusive of p/p for a 10 ft x 9'' scene.Photos need to be taken in portrait style with a 25% overlap and the more the better blend you get.Sounds promising.

Edited August 27, 2013 by gwrrob

[gwrrob]

 

Hope the back scene turns out nice Rob I might go down this road myself, don't forget to post photos once they are done.

 

I'm waiting to hear from Captain Kernow but I hear he's busy with the doubling of the track at Kemble. I could do the lining paper but how long can you keep mixed unused paste for I wonder.

[Sidecar Racer]

 I could do the lining paper but how long can you keep mixed unused paste for I wonder.

 

 Buy a pot of ready mixed in a re-sealable container .

[The Stationmaster]

I've had a prompt reply back from Art Printers concerning my bespoke backscene.A very reasonable £5 extra on top of their usual £10 inclusive of p/p for a 10 ft x 9'' scene.Photos need to be taken in portrait style with a 25% overlap and the more the better blend you get.Sounds promising.

Cor, that sounds very reasonable Rob.

[Mallard60022]

Mr Sweet, I thought I'd better warn you that this loco is being used on long distance excursions west of Bristol - beware. The Finching sisters would have to have therapy if they were to see this down Brent.

It really is an 'orrible beasty.

I. Vatt.

 

Edited August 28, 2013 by Mallard60022

[gwrrob]

I think that the Finching Sisters wouldn't be the only ones to need therapy if they saw it on Brent. I think Spams has got more chance than that lump. Not a beautiful Castle is it.

 

You should know Phil that BR black is not my favourite colour. I'll bet it's got a sweet chassis though.

Edited August 28, 2013 by gwrrob

[Mallard60022]

No Rob I built the chassis!!!!!!!!!  However it does run well (the loco anyway).

Had you noticed one of the gangers turning away and almost falling over with laughter as he has never seen anything so funny?

P

[cary hill]

I reckon a nice black 8F, such as 48404 would be better, on the 7.25 a.m. Grimsby-Bristol-Plymouth fish train. It would make a interesting contrast with the "Earl of Plymouth" plus the Choc and Cream rake travelling in the opposite direction during, I think,August 1959.......or it could have been a cold day in hell when it happened.

[gwrrob]

I reckon a nice black 8F, such as 48404 would be better, on the 7.25 a.m. Grimsby-Bristol-Plymouth fish train. It would make a interesting contrast with the "Earl of Plymouth" plus the Choc and Cream rake travelling in the opposite direction during, I think,August 1959.......or it could have been a cold day in hell when it happened.

 

There are lots of other permutations loco-wise before I'd consider an 8F although I do like the sound of a fish train.Of course I still want to model the LMS coaches seen on the Liverpool - Penzance cross country trains too.Short of coaching stock of all varieties though.

[cary hill]

There are lots of other permutations loco-wise before I'd consider an 8F although I do like the sound of a fish train.Of course I still want to model the LMS coaches seen on the Liverpool - Penzance cross country trains too.Short of coaching stock of all varieties though.

 

Yes, I can see more coaching stock has to be the priority for local passenger workings (Plymouth-Newton-Exeter?). A nice 'M' set to start - Van 3rd(2nd),Compo,3rd, Van 3rd(2nd) - preferably all to different diagrams for that touch of "authenticity".Later strengthened with an additional Compo and 3rd(2nd) to form a 6 coach 'K' set, although if the stock is all Comet builds it might need double-heading.

 

Followed by a short LMS rake - 3rd(2nd) Brake, 3rd(2nd),Compo.

 

That sorts out the coach building programme for a couple months.

I can see the merits of scenic enhancements as an alternative now.

[gwrrob]

Yes, I can see more coaching stock has to be the priority for local passenger workings (Plymouth-Newton-Exeter?). A nice 'M' set to start - Van 3rd(2nd),Compo,3rd, Van 3rd(2nd) - preferably all to different diagrams for that touch of "authenticity".Later strengthened with an additional Compo and 3rd(2nd) to form a 6 coach 'K' set, although if the stock is all Comet builds it might need double-heading.

 

Followed by a short LMS rake - 3rd(2nd) Brake, 3rd(2nd),Compo.

 

That sorts out the coach building programme for a couple months.

I can see the merits of scenic enhancements as an alternative now.

 

Thanks David ! Have you got the coach diagrams I'd need to build a 'M' set please.

[cary hill]

Thanks David ! Have you got the coach diagrams I'd need to build a 'M' set please.

Rob,sometime ago here I tentatively suggested in this thread http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/50575-western-region-branchsecondary-line-coaching-stock/ possible diagrams to represent an "M Set" using the Comet range. You will note that "chrisf" contributes immediately below my contribution and doesn't "blow me out of the water" entirely.

 

The Comet Coach Diagrams I suggested then were as follows:

 

W7(and now W56 is also available)Collett Brake 3rd Bow End (R/H and L/H)to Diagram D95 (1925) 78 built.

 

W8 Collett Composite Bow End (L/H)to Diagram E127(1925) 45 built.

 

W6 Collett Corridor 3rd Bow End to Diagram C54 (1925) 243 built or ?(W11 Collett Corridor 3rd to Diagram C67 (1934) 155 built).

 

This will give a fairly tidy looking 'M' set built in a similar style which you might like even if the GWR tended to jumble up coach sets more in practice.

 

The Comet notes suggest that some of these coaches were still working from Paddington to Exeter in 1951, but I'm hoping/assuming that some have also been cascaded to other duties before then.

 

I think you would have to look outside the Comet range if you wanted an older coach Diagram to "break-up" the 'M' set's similarity of appearance.

 

Looking for "newer" Diagrams to "substitute" in the 'M' set I noticed from the Comet notes that several Diagrams W15/W16/W24/W42&W43 all seem to have appeared a 12.30 p.m.Plymouth-Liverpool service at various times (is this a BR service though?). I wondered if one of these Coach Diagrams could appear in your Plymouth-Liverpool service and in the "M" set to save a build?

 

That should at least set the ball rolling.

Edited August 31, 2013 by cary hill

[The Stationmaster]

Looking for "newer" Diagrams to "substitute" in the 'M' set I noticed from the Comet notes that several Diagrams W15/W16/W24/W42&W43 all seem to have appeared a 12.30 p.m.Plymouth-Liverpool service at various times (is this a BR service though?). I wondered if one of these Coach Diagrams could appear in your Plymouth-Liverpool service and in the "M" set to save a build?

 

 

In 1947 it was the 1.00pm Plymouth - Liverpool and was formed with LMS stock.

[gwrrob]

Thanks for the very detailed reply.To put pictures to your words here are the Comet builds below.

 

W6  C54 http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/modules/viewcatpic.php/8/615

 

W7 D95 http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/modules/viewcatpic.php/8/616

 

W8 E127 http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/modules/viewcatpic.php/8/617

 

W11 C67 http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/modules/viewcatpic.php/8/620 [pressed steel bogies,could use Bachmann]

 

Which one would be the most useful to build first then ?

[cary hill]

gwrrob, on 31 Aug 2013 - 12:57, said:

Which one would be the most useful to build first then ?

If any difference in the number of handles,grabs,hinges etc.,between the Diagrams doesn't sway you, perhaps the C54,based purely on the number made (243), as it might more plausibly feature in rakes other than the "M" set at some future date? Just safety in numbers really.

[2ManySpams]

Thanks for the very detailed reply.To put pictures to your words here are the Comet builds below.

 

W6  C54 http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/modules/viewcatpic.php/8/615

 

W7 D95 http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/modules/viewcatpic.php/8/616

 

W8 E127 http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/modules/viewcatpic.php/8/617

 

W11 C67 http://www.cometmodels.co.uk/modules/viewcatpic.php/8/620 [pressed steel bogies,could use Bachmann]

 

Which one would be the most useful to build first then ?

 

From an unbiased 'Southern' viewpoint, I like the look of the D95.

[gwrrob]

From an unbiased 'Southern' viewpoint, I like the look of the D95.

 

It's the only one of those Comet builds in GWR livery too.

[gwrrob]

Well as my fiddle yard is clear at the moment awaiting a new backscene I thought I'd take a few shots as it is at the moment.Using 92220 on a parcels..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... and as we're talking coaches,I shew my parcels stock in more detail...

[gwrrob]

The parcels rake only has five coaches in at the moment made up of two Hornby and three Bachmann vehicles.

 

 

This is the Bachmann maroon GUV W86263 attached to the Hornby Full Brake W 304 W using the pipe couplings and Modellers Mecca gangways where applicable.

 

 

This is the choc/cream Bachmann BG W81205 attached to aforementioned GUV the same way.

 

 

81205 BG to  80725 BG.

 

 

Another Bachmann BG in maroon ,80725 attached to Hornby Full Brake W 322 W

Edited September 1, 2013 by gwrrob

[gwrrob]

Hi Rob

BG's seem popular at the moment,

 

Yes.I wouldn't say no to another one in choc/cream if the price is right.A lovely coach.

[Danemouth]

Rob,

 

Can I ask please what ballast you use, particularly the colour? It suits the South West to a "T". My layout is set in the SW so you can guess why I am asking!

 

Kindest Regards,

 

Dave

[gwrrob]

I used a mixture of colours taken from the 2mm range of Green Scene's ballast.They do a brown and a light and dark grey.Black ash was added in places where my locos stand too.

 

http://www.green-scene.co.uk/Ballast%20Mate.html

 

A good online ordering source can be found here http://www.dccsupplies.com/shop/index.php?cPath=272_319_320_611

 

[usual disclaimer]

Edited September 1, 2013 by gwrrob

[Danemouth]

Blimey Rob, six minutes to respond!!!!!!!!!!

 

Many thanks, will investigate further,

 

Regards,

 

Dave

[gwrrob]

Blimey Rob, six minutes to respond!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Sorry Dave, I'll be quicker next time.