dave_long Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 My current jig saw is definately not up to the job. Yeah I've got a jigsaw like that, apparently mine has a laser guide. It does but it doesn't guide you in a straight line! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I considered a circular saw, but they are pretty big and expensive for the amount of use I would get out of one. Here's my cutting list, although I may rejig it to take Paul's two sheet cutting idea into account. All the parts are in multiple of two so it should work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 of I get two sheets cut at once Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 21, 2013 Cor! Now get a computer controlled saw table too I try to adapt the dimensions to get the easiest cuts too. Sometimes gaining or losing a bit here and there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I considered a circular saw, but they are pretty big and expensive for the amount of use I would get out of one. Here's my cutting list, although I may rejig it to take Paul's two sheet cutting idea into account. All the parts are in multiple of two so it should work cutting list.png Tim I take it the computer cutting list has allowed for saw blade width (can vary) and the person who's going to cut the wood (this can vary a lot) even if you tell them you want exact measurments,it doesn't always come out that way(don't ask how i know),not all wood yards will have the big flat deck cutting saws. I would have a shop about, my local timber shop gives you 4 free cuts,then its 50p a cut,(unless you a regular) Good luck and hope there straight cuts!!! Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
clark33 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 The alternative to wood yard cuts is to hire a carpenter. I remember comparing the price of cuts in B&Q/Homebase/Phllips in Alton, UK. Then coming here I anguished for weeks over the lack of a wall mounted board saws, the inevitability of providing tools, board and lodging for a carpenter. In the end the plywood and glue was bought, here they call it quarter inch plyboard. The carpenter was 5 GBP a day worked or 10 days, stated at dawn at 5 a.m. and could always cut a straight line. I remember the cutting list was on the back of an envelope; no computers here, like 26 off 6 inch by 48 inch. Also I fabricated an assembly fixture, with drilled hole and guidance lines, using half inch blockboard. The plan was 13 four by two foot modules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Paul, have you seen this thread? http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/72708-laser-cut-baseboards/ Ray, the program does have a blade width setting, I've allowed 5 mm in those diagrams but it's something I need to ask. To tell the truth, I was only really playing with the program, although it did prove to me that the parts I wanted would fit on to 8 by 4 sheets it seems not to actually arrange the parts very logically and requires some manual tweaking afterwards. Clarke, not sure I could afford that here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Discussing it with our guys at our Saturday work session, we wondered how many folk are working on curved modules? I know Chris is, any others? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted July 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2013 Discussing it with our guys at our Saturday work session, we wondered how many folk are working on curved modules? I know Chris is, any others? No plans as of yet to build any curved modules. Mine will be 18 feet straight including the converter boards If the weather cools down when I have a spare day I will get the converter boards built. If by early next year there is a shortage of curved boards then I will consider building one or two. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northpoint Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 Discussing it with our guys at our Saturday work session, we wondered how many folk are working on curved modules? I know Chris is, any others? I am hoping to do a couple of single track curves, maybe also a junction/interchange which would have a 45 degree curve in it. It all depends on time and space. No more exhibiting over the rest of the summer after this wekeend so here's hoping. I have a garage full of timber etc awaiting the saw and drill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Discussing it with our guys at our Saturday work session, we wondered how many folk are working on curved modules? I know Chris is, any others? Wasn't planning to build any,don't think there will be room in the car,might be worth a head count on curved modules,if there's not enough we can always open the fire doors and head out on to the car park,it would be a bit like BN's "Aurora racetrack"!!!! Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talltim Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 And remember, a curve doesn't need to be 45% or 90% etc! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxmoore Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 And remember, a curve doesn't need to be 45% or 90% etc! It doesn't, but if they're to be used with other boards, you don't really want a single one of, eg, 41 degrees, as it would prove difficult to being the layout "back on true", as it will usually be following the lines of the walls. It would be a good idea to do two of the same angle (of whatever degree), for this reason too. One of our members has made a set of four 45-degree boards, which are really useful. The club has acquired two sets of curved boards, 6 x 60-degree, and we plan to make them into single-track modular curves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted July 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2013 Wasn't planning to build any,don't think there will be room in the car,might be worth a head count on curved modules,if there's not enough we can always open the fire doors and head out on to the car park,it would be a bit like BN's "Aurora racetrack"!!!! Ray So who's building waterproof boards and scenery then!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 So who's building waterproof boards and scenery then!! Marine ply!! or the car float could go out there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted July 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 22, 2013 I knew I should have bought that discounted tug boat in Model zone! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 It doesn't, but if they're to be used with other boards, you don't really want a single one of, eg, 41 degrees, as it would prove difficult to being the layout "back on true", as it will usually be following the lines of the walls. It would be a good idea to do two of the same angle (of whatever degree), for this reason too. One of our members has made a set of four 45-degree boards, which are really useful. The club has acquired two sets of curved boards, 6 x 60-degree, and we plan to make them into single-track modular curves. A thought I had would have been a 6' long board with a u shaped track layout, giving a square end to a row and turning back on itself. No need for fancy curved baseboards either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
long island jack Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 A thought I had would have been a 6' long board with a u shaped track layout, giving a square end to a row and turning back on itself. No need for fancy curved baseboards either. Dave What radius are you thinking of using,the recommend one is 36" for main lines,its going to be a big board to turn 36" and keep 18" centres think minimum board you'd get away with is 90" x 40",or have i got this wrong, SWMBO always saying i'm wrong,even when i'm right!!!!! Do we have any picture of curved modules under construction or sizes?? Ray Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxmoore Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Three pictures, constructing curved modules using pink foam and ply: Three 45-degree modules: 180 degrees, four modules, ready for electrics and track: The track has a 32" radius, and you also have to dig out enough foam at either end to facilitate secure clamping. They are carried back-to-back, and now have basic scenery attached. They are incredibly useful. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 A thought I hadRayYou may have missed my magic words ^^ it is possible but I fear I don't have the time for such a large module. Mine will be 2 shortie straight throughs with a scenery feature! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Thanks guys, good that there's potentially a few, we do have some (2x 90deg, 2x 45deg) within our group but I think we will need more curves to fit things in. Tim, quite right it doesn't need to be any given angle, but just for practicality it's much easier to both fit and plan to a (usually*) square room with multiples of 45deg - if folk start building ones with odd angles i'll have to finally give up planning with basic maths and a pencil and learn CAD. think minimum board you'd get away with is 90" x 40",or have i got this wrong, For a single module of 180deg with the 36" min I think you're spot on with those measurements. Do we have any picture of curved modules under construction or sizes?? To add to Brian's... Bucks Farm is one of Neil Rogers' 45deg curves, it's a straight timber frame with a plywood top, and a thin curved fascia added on the outside of the curve - size-wise from memory it's about 3'6" long in it's longest dimension (a straight line between the end points of the curved side) http://rstowerfreemo.wordpress.com/the-modules/farm-curve/ Rockwood Depot is a 90deg module with one double and one single track end, arranged over 2 boards, each board is very similar to Bucks Farm structurally but obviously with one 20" modular end http://rstowerfreemo.wordpress.com/the-modules/depot-curve/ The US guys seem to largely build straight boards with two angled ends to make curves, this kind of thing: (*We did a thing at Peco once, and ended up in a room that was triangular shaped, with I think about 30deg angle between the two main walls....that was....interesting!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxmoore Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Just found a shot which shows how much a couple of 45-degree curves can add to the options you have when making full use of the space. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
warbonnetuk Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Discussing it with our guys at our Saturday work session, we wondered how many folk are working on curved modules? I know Chris is, any others? Seaboard Southern have a couple of 180 degree curve modules, one of which can be split into a pair of 90 degree units Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
squeaky Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 This is my plan, I might make it 9 feet long, so 3 x 3ft sections. I'm going to make it as a stand alone layout,It's L shaped. What do you think, too much track? The bottom left is going to be a Walthers Allied Rail Rebuilders, the lower right hand spur is going to be a single engine house(Pikestuff), i'm not sure about the 2 upper spurs??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxmoore Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 This is my plan, I might make it 9 feet long, so 3 x 3ft sections. I'm going to make it as a stand alone layout,It's L shaped. What do you think, too much track? freemo.jpg The bottom left is going to be a Walthers Allied Rail Rebuilders, the lower right hand spur is going to be a single engine house(Pikestuff), i'm not sure about the 2 upper spurs??? Not so much, "too much track", but possibly difficult to access the two lower LH tracks from the top side if you're switching; essentially, all tracks should be easily reach-able from either side. I'd suggest you straighten out the two lower tracks to keep the width down, even if it means adding a couple of feet to the LH end. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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