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Hroth Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 8 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Objection. It's the Tin Man - non-ferrous and so non-magnetic. If he were pure tin, he would shriek as he was torn apart! https://sciencenotes.org/what-is-tin-cry/ Muahahaha!!!!! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted April 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2022 9 hours ago, PhilJ W said: He might just be tin plated. Yes, in the fresh light of dawn I CAN see that that would be the case. 3 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium kevinlms Posted April 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2022 Just now, Compound2632 said: Yes, in the fresh light of dawn I CAN see that that would be the case. 2 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 14 hours ago, PhilJ W said: He might just be tin plated. Or he could be made as a full size tin soldier, but then would contain 60 to 75% lead, and when he happened to mention that the rest of him was not pure tin but also contained antimony, was afterwards always called by the scarecrow (admittedly not the brightest of the foursome) "Tony". 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 To be honest I don't think I've ever watched it! One of those films that I've seen bits of when I was a kid and I'm familiar with the general plot, but never actually watched it. Likewise I've never seen a full Disney animated cartoon. When I was a kid they weren't shown on TV, but they showed the clip shows. When they started showing them in full I was too old for them. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 (edited) What you have to remember is that L Frank Baums original "The Wizard of Oz" story was a heavy handed political allegory of the USA in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. Dorothy represented the common people, the Scarecrow the farmers, the Tin Man industry and the Cowardly Lion the then incumbent President. Monetary policy was represented by The Yellow Brick Road, down which Dot originally walked in Silver slippers, representing the bimetallic currency theory* (ruby slippers appeared in the film because they looked better in Color!!!). Emerald City represented dollar bills. Toto was a Loki style trickster, getting in the way... There are other things but I lost the will to read them. Of course, all this is the fevered imaginings of American academics, churning out papers to preserve their tenure... * You may recall that Sherlock Holmes opponent, Professor Moriarty, was interested in the Bimetallic Theory, probably from a criminal viewpoint... Edited April 28, 2022 by Hroth Clarification and spelin 5 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted April 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Hroth said: What you have to remember is that L Frank Baums original "The Wizard of Oz" story was a heavy handed political allegory of the USA in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. Dorothy represented the common people, the Scarecrow the farmers, the Tin Man industry and the Cowardly Lion the then incumbent President. Monetary policy was represented by The Yellow Brick Road, down which Dot originally walked in Silver slippers, representing the bimetallic currency theory* (ruby slippers appeared in the film because they looked better in Color!!!). Emerald City represented dollar bills. Toto was a Loki style trickster, getting in the way... There are other things but I lost the will to read them. Of course, all this is the fevered imaginings of American academics, churning out papers to preserve their tenure... * You may recall that Sherlock Holmes opponent, Professor Moriarty, was interested in the Bimetallic Theory, probably from a criminal viewpoint... A lot of classic literature is thinly disguised satire. Gulliver's Travels is a prime example but it is so distant in time that the satire is lost. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Jiff Kenobi Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 We don't seem to have much of that sort of thing these days. Would anyone care to speculate what Fifty Shades of Grey is satirising? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Obi-Jiff Kenobi said: We don't seem to have much of that sort of thing these days. Would anyone care to speculate what Fifty Shades of Grey is satirising? Satirising the sexually oppressed middle aged, middle classes that complain about "adult" movies and magazines yet buy a book because it's literature, and books are supposedly classy. 3 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Hroth said: What you have to remember is that L Frank Baums original "The Wizard of Oz" story was a heavy handed political allegory of the USA in the late 19th/early 20th centuries. Dorothy represented the common people, the Scarecrow the farmers, the Tin Man industry and the Cowardly Lion the then incumbent President. Monetary policy was represented by The Yellow Brick Road, down which Dot originally walked in Silver slippers, representing the bimetallic currency theory* (ruby slippers appeared in the film because they looked better in Color!!!). Emerald City represented dollar bills. Toto was a Loki style trickster, getting in the way... There are other things but I lost the will to read them. Of course, all this is the fevered imaginings of American academics, churning out papers to preserve their tenure... * You may recall that Sherlock Holmes opponent, Professor Moriarty, was interested in the Bimetallic Theory, probably from a criminal viewpoint... And the storm at the beginning represents the Great Depression. 1 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2022 48 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: Satirising the sexually oppressed middle aged, middle classes that complain about "adult" movies and magazines yet buy a book because it's literature, and books are supposedly classy. Chapter Arts Centre in Cardiff, a bastion of middle class values and social psuedo-artistic mores if ever there was one, some years ago featured an illustrated lecture by a pornstar lady, who had finished with tbe business and writtten a well reviewed book about her experiences in a pretty literate and informed manner and without sensationalising the sexual elements. I happened to be in the bar that evening, meeting friends, and was struck by the overwhelming proponderance of (middle class middle aged) male attendees at this lecture... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Obi-Jiff Kenobi said: Would anyone care to speculate what Fifty Shades of Grey is satirising? isn't it the RMWeb Society of Rivet Counters and Pedants (SRCP) meeting to discuss GWR standard goods stock livery? e.g. http://www.gwr.org.uk/liverieswagongrey.html 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocor Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 51 minutes ago, Obi-Jiff Kenobi said: We don't seem to have much of that sort of thing these days. Would anyone care to speculate what Fifty Shades of Grey is satirising? The relationship between modern governments and their electorates? Note! This comment is not to be regarded to have any political connotations of any form whatsoever. It is totally non-political, not even the smallest aspect of political discourse is involved here. Not a bit of it, not even the slightest bit, in no way, none at all in fact. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, rocor said: The relationship between modern governments and their electorates? 1 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 1 hour ago, The Johnster said: And the storm at the beginning represents the Great Depression. The witches are said to represent aspects of the "spirits" of the land. I won't go into what the flying monkeys were. Anyhow, all that is relatively straightfoward. The psychological interpretations are even whackier. I saw a Jungian one... As for 50 Shades of Grey, it probably satirises people who bought it because it was "naughty". In a meta sort of way it probably satirises the guardians of the morals of youth, who get hot under the collar when copies get donated to village telephone box libraries. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 The cesspit that is Hebden Bridge..... My problem is stopping my volunteers putting multiple copies of them out at the same time when we've got loads of good books in the back. Same goes for almost any book that was popular and then ends up at charity shops. The worst ones are those "celebrity" books that people give as Christmas presents, you can't get rid of them and they're usually big hardbacks that take up loads of space. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted April 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 28, 2022 There are bookshops in Hay on Wye that will sell you books by the yard as decor to go on shelves to make you look literate, literally, and some have 'help yourself' boxes for the stuff nobody will buy. Brings home the meaning of the term 'pulp fiction'. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 47 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: The cesspit that is Hebden Bridge..... My problem is stopping my volunteers putting multiple copies of them out at the same time when we've got loads of good books in the back. Same goes for almost any book that was popular and then ends up at charity shops. The worst ones are those "celebrity" books that people give as Christmas presents, you can't get rid of them and they're usually big hardbacks that take up loads of space. Before 50SoG it used to be The Curse of "Captain Corelli's Mandolin"... Do you actually try to sell the celebrity tomes, or can you get them recycled? It might be satisfying to think that they may have a more useful existence as toilet paper! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Hroth said: Before 50SoG it used to be The Curse of "Captain Corelli's Mandolin"... Do you actually try to sell the celebrity tomes, or can you get them recycled? It might be satisfying to think that they may have a more useful existence as toilet paper! Yep. Sometimes they sell. Every so often we do a "flash sale" of something like 5 or 10 books for a quid. Can't go any lower as the lowest the till accepts is £1. Usually any we don't sell either goes to another shop if they are quality, or sold to World Of Books that buy them by weight. People wonder where those online booksellers get the books from, it's mostly charity shops. What sells. Quality thrillers, those "family/female sagas"*, horror/fantasy/sci-fi, local history, sport (mostly football), up to date cookery books, kids books. Virtually anything else you can forget it. * You know the sort, young orphan girl gets taken in as a serving girl and twenty years later she's married to the heir of the house 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted April 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, Hroth said: Do you actually try to sell the celebrity tomes, or can you get them recycled? Could they not be returned to the publisher for re-binding as the next celebrity tome? Of course there's the danger that someone might actually open the book but wouldn't the thought of someone reading Obama's memoir under the impression it was Trump's be satisfying? 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: You know the sort, young orphan girl gets taken in as a serving girl and twenty years later she's married to the heir of the house AKA "Career Progression"... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted April 28, 2022 Share Posted April 28, 2022 On 23/04/2022 at 12:04, nigb55009 said: How about the "Rivet Counting Society" to avoid an apostrophe. Ah, Word Crimes. That reminds me ... 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted April 29, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2022 What this thread really needs is a couple of contributors who pick jokes to bits and suck all the joy out of it. Oh, hang on…. 3 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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