DavidB-AU Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, The Johnster said: You have just either made or destroyed her political career It's worth noting that the position of Lord President was one of those "useless non-jobs" (described as such by Bernard Donoughue, one of the inside sources for Yes Minister) where a Prime Minister would push a political rival as revenge and/or to keep them out of the spotlight. That worked out well... 3 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve1 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 steve 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted May 11, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2023 Chucky does not look too happy in that photo. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 49 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said: Chucky does not look too happy in that photo. He's just pondering on that sword, and the merits of decapitation... (No name, no packdrill...) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 11, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Hroth said: He's just pondering on that sword, and the merits of decapitation... (No name, no packdrill...) Could do it Chinese style, as he walks down the aisle points to the politicians and instructs the sword bearer to decapitate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Could do it Chinese style, as he walks down the aisle points to the politicians and instructs the sword bearer to decapitate them. TBH it wouldn't be a politician. Later, perhaps... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted May 11, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2023 58 minutes ago, PhilJ W said: Could do it Chinese style, as he walks down the aisle points to the politicians and instructs the sword bearer to decapitate them. The Thames would be in major flood stage if done properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33C Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Back to the jokes... I was polishing my Bardic lamp when suddenly, a genie popped out and said I could have one wish! "One?" I said, "Isn't it usually three?". "There's a recession you know." replied the genie...So I thought long and hard and said "I just want to be happy". Then, with a flash, I was down a mine with six dwarves.... 3 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted May 11, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2023 9 hours ago, steve1 said: steve A serious question: the woman in the blue uniform , who is she and what is her position; both her normal one and her Coronation one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted May 11, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said: A serious question: the woman in the blue uniform , who is she and what is her position; both her normal one and her Coronation one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Mordaunt 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 11, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said: A serious question: the woman in the blue uniform , who is she and what is her position; both her normal one and her Coronation one? Where have you been since last Saturday? She is Penny Morduant, a cabinet minister and former contender for the leadership of the Conservative Party. She is currently Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Privy Council. It is by virtue of the latter position - a rather ancient one, pre-dating much of the modern machinery of parliamentary government - that she had a role in the coronation service. It's not a uniform she's wearing but an outfit she had specially made, there being no precedent for the coronation attire of a female Lord President. More via @Dagworth's link! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, J. S. Bach said: A serious question: the woman in the blue uniform , who is she and what is her position; both her normal one and her Coronation one? Mostly known to the general public for this! Fascinating what some people will watch.... You certainly wouldn't get me up on that board though. Lord President a "non" job? Don't tell the LNER as they named one of their most important engines after it! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Quote Penny Mordaunt reveals how Royal Navy training helped her carry heavy ceremonial swords during coronation https://www.forces.net/king-charles-iii-coronation/royal-navy-training-helped-me-carry-heavy-ceremonial-swords-during 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted May 11, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, Dagworth said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_Mordaunt Thank you. Sounds like she is roughly equivalent to our Speaker of the House. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted May 11, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2023 Not quite; we have a Speaker of the House (of Commons, not Lords, they are expected to maintain a level of decorum as part of noblesse oblige without an authority figure supervising them) as well. The Speaker is responsible for keeping order in the Commons Chamber, which has not progressed all that much since the original Chamber, in which the two sides of the House are separated by a central aisle that is more than an outstretched sword in width, for good reason. A keeper of order is not just a ceremonial role: debates and (in particular) Prime Minister's Questions in the 'Mother of Parliaments' do not adhere to the dignity and gravitas that chambers such as your Congress seek to effect. They are bawdy, ill-mannered, and loutish, and always were; you could be listening to a schoolboy yard conversation. Behaviour has improved slightly since proceedings were televised live, but shouting, interrupting, childish insults, and generally poor behaviour is par for the course, and proceedings carry on to the sound of the Speaker's shouted pleas for 'order, order'. The speaker has the authority to curtail behaviour if things are getting seriously out of hand, and to summon the Master At Arms to remove you from the House if he thinks that is called for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 We have a Speaker Of The House Of Lords as well. Brought in a few years back. Far too many of them nowadays. 778 at the last count. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Lords Titled Lord Speaker, current incumbent is The Lord McFall of Alcluith https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Speaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB-AU Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Steamport Southport said: Lord President a "non" job? Don't tell the LNER as they named one of their most important engines after it! That Lord President is named after the position of Lord President of the Court of Session, the head of the judiciary in Scotland. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 12, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2023 Perhaps the appointment of Mordaunt as Lord President and Leader of the House was Liz Truss' most (only?) perspicacious act as PM - having upper body strength in mind. 2 hours ago, DavidB-AU said: That Lord President is named after the position of Lord President of the Court of Session, the head of the judiciary in Scotland. Indeed the P2s all had good Scottish names, though I wonder if particular holders of the offices of Earl Marischal and Lord President were supposed to be brought to mind? They are a motley bunch of names, though: the colloquial title of a clan chief, two government officers, an old cannon, a Shakespearean character, and a particularly unpleasant medieval earl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Where have you been since last Saturday? Give him a chance, he lives on the left-hand side of The Pond. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, Compound2632 said: Perhaps the appointment of Mordaunt as Lord President and Leader of the House was Liz Truss' most (only?) perspicacious act as PM - having upper body strength in mind. Indeed the P2s all had good Scottish names, though I wonder if particular holders of the offices of Earl Marischal and Lord President were supposed to be brought to mind? They are a motley bunch of names, though: the colloquial title of a clan chief, two government officers, an old cannon, a Shakespearean character, and a particularly unpleasant medieval earl. More interesting than the LNERs perennial string of long-forgotten racehorses! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 4 1 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proton Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 14 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Where have you been since last Saturday? She is Penny Morduant, a cabinet minister and former contender for the leadership of the Conservative Party. She is currently Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Privy Council. It is by virtue of the latter position - a rather ancient one, pre-dating much of the modern machinery of parliamentary government - that she had a role in the coronation service. It's not a uniform she's wearing but an outfit she had specially made, there being no precedent for the coronation attire of a female Lord President. More via @Dagworth's link! J S Bach and several others (including me) are on the left hand side of the Atlantic, and not as swamped with TV coverage of the event as those in the UK. (J S, sorry, I'm sure you're more than capable of speaking up for yourself, but anyway...) John 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted May 12, 2023 Share Posted May 12, 2023 16 hours ago, 33C said: Back to the jokes... I was polishing my Bardic lamp when suddenly, a genie popped out and said I could have one wish! "One?" I said, "Isn't it usually three?". "There's a recession you know." replied the genie...So I thought long and hard and said "I just want to be happy". Then, with a flash, I was down a mine with six dwarves.... Then the lights went out. Now he's feeling Grumpy. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Compound2632 Posted May 12, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, proton said: J S Bach and several others (including me) are on the left hand side of the Atlantic, and not as swamped with TV coverage of the event as those in the UK. (J S, sorry, I'm sure you're more than capable of speaking up for yourself, but anyway...) My apologies to our rebellious cousins. I had been under the impression that the Coronation had received a fair bit of media attention in the US - at least, more than in Australia or Canada! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium J. S. Bach Posted May 12, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, J. S. Bach said: A serious question: the woman in the blue uniform , who is she and what is her position; both her normal one and her Coronation one? 20 hours ago, Compound2632 said: Where have you been since last Saturday? She is Penny Morduant, a cabinet minister and former contender for the leadership of the Conservative Party. She is currently Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Privy Council. It is by virtue of the latter position - a rather ancient one, pre-dating much of the modern machinery of parliamentary government - that she had a role in the coronation service. It's not a uniform she's wearing but an outfit she had specially made, there being no precedent for the coronation attire of a female Lord President. More via @Dagworth's link! I did read the link, it was informative. Although I still think that she looks like an airline stewardess in that costume. 9 hours ago, F-UnitMad said: Give him a chance, he lives on the left-hand side of The Pond. 5 hours ago, proton said: J S Bach and several others (including me) are on the left hand side of the Atlantic, and not as swamped with TV coverage of the event as those in the UK. (J S, sorry, I'm sure you're more than capable of speaking up for yourself, but anyway...) John 5 hours ago, Compound2632 said: My apologies to our rebellious cousins. I had been under the impression that the Coronation had received a fair bit of media attention in the US - at least, more than in Australia or Canada! It may have, I do not know. I have two TVs, one 26" and one 52"; neither has been turned on this year and last year only the 52" to watch a couple of laserdiscs and as a large-screen computer monitor. Note that where I live, I can only watch ota tv if I use an external antenna. Edited May 12, 2023 by J. S. Bach 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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