JeffP's photos, early 70's and 80's.

[beast66606]

Three more oddities tonight, found whilst clearing another cupboard.

 

First one, taken in 1996 according to the folder it was in, is at Milford Junction, IIRC.

 

 

 

100% Milford Junction.

[JeffP]

Some more random shots from folders of photos dug out of the old unit.

 

 

First off, Class 47/3, 47351 round the curves into Althorpe station with an eastbound speedlink service, date unknown, but 90's.

 

 

Probably on the same day, class 37/0, 37051 heads west off Keadby Bridge.

 

 

Heading east is Pacer unit 142072.

 

 

Three shots of class 60, 60059, "Samuel Plimsoll" on Frodingham depot. 60's were a depot rarity. This one was a regular on thje Manchester binliner, so may have been in for overnight fueling/attention, instead of going to Immingham.

 

 

Last one tonight, taken at iirc Skegness,  we see a two-car dmu awaiting time to depart.

Edited January 3, 2014 by JeffP

[LNERGE]

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Last one tonight, taken at iirc Skegness,  we see a two-car dmu awaiting time to depart.

Note the hand point lever in the platform.. The points are too far from the box to be worked (350 yard limit) but are facing point locked from the box (no limit).... a handy dodge..

[JeffP]

Some more from Doncaster around 1992, again, found with family photos while clearing out the old unit.

 

 

Class 37/0, 37032 I think, (looking at the original through a jeweller's loupe shows that number I think), brings a train of covhops off the Sheffield line, heading north. I have been informed that the wagons are interesting in that they have no markings.

 

 

Three shots of one of the new Class 91's and it's DVT the first shows, IMHO the 91, 91007, in probably it's best livery.

 

 

Standing at platform 4 is long-range fitted class 47, 47814, heading south, on a NE-SW service.

 

 

56087 passes through heading for the Sheffield line with mgr hoppers.

 

 

Four-car DMU also in platform 4, the nearest cab carries the number 282.

 

A bit more variety at Donny than we get now, but even then we thought it dull.

Edited January 4, 2014 by JeffP

[Grimleygrid]

Some lovely traction there Jeff, always nice to see some sector liveried locos. Mr Plimsoll looks good in Coal.

 

Please do keep them coming!

[JeffP]

Tonight we are at Barnetby again, but from a different viewpoint for some shots.

 

Large logo blue class 56, 56126 heading west at Wrawby junction, just west of Barnetby station. The train appears to be signalled to go down the line to Scunthorpe, (turn right at the junction), and is hauling loaded mgr hoppers.

The photo is taken from the entrance to the CCE tip sidings.

 

And here is the same train moments earlier.

 

Here, coal sector liveried class 56, 56103 heading east with empty mgr hoppers is about to cross minerals sector liveried class 37, 37252 heading west with loaded 100t oil tanks, from one of the Humber bank refineries. Barnetby station in the background.

For some reason, one of the signals for the tip is cleared.......

 

And here, the two trains have crossed, and the 56 before moving behind the 37.

 

Here, class 37's, 37377 and 37291 are heading for the BSC ore terminal with another load of ore from the ore terminal at Immingham.

Edited:

The back loco is definitely not 37291.  I can identify it as definitely 37351.  It was the only one of the initial batch to carry this livery.  (the cantrail grilles identify it as one of D6700-4)

 

Thanks D6975

 

Heading east for Immingham docks, class 20's with 20185 leading, are hauling a train of steel for export to Germany for treatment. The same stuff comes back about a week later and goes to Sheffield.

 

Just to show it wan't all 56's etc, here we have class 47/3, 47305 heading empty TTA and TTB tanks back towards Immingham and it's refineries.

 

Before the peace is shattered by yet another class 56, here, 56112 in coal sector livery heading more loaded mgr hoppers west.

 

More variety, class 47/3, 47325 heading west with loaded 100t tanks.

 

Here, we have moved to the east end of the station, and the signals bracket 2-car Pacer unit heading west.

 

Last one for tonight, another pair of class 20's, this time headed by 20045 bring a train of what looks like imported machinery into Barnetby from Immingham docks.

Edited February 10, 2014 by JeffP

[LNERGE]

An interesting short wooden post with weight bars makes several appearances in those photo's. I guess it's to do with the route indications on the semaphores. Can anyone confirm?

[beast66606]

Tonight we are at Barnetby again, but from a different viewpoint for some shots.

Large logo blue class 56, 56126 heading west at Wrawby junction, just west of Barnetby station. The train appears to be signalled to go down the line to Retford, (straight on at the junction), and is hauling loaded mgr hoppers.

 

Here, coal sector liveried class 56, 56103 heading east with empty mgr hoppers is about to cross minerals sector liveried class 37, 37252 heading west with loaded 100t oil tanks, from one of the Humber bank refineries. Barnetby station in the background.

For some reason, one of the signals for the tip is cleared.......

 

 

 

The train is signalled to take the Scunthorpe line, careful perusal will show the signal that's clear is the right hand bracket of the junction signals.

 

(I think)This is a shunt signal which is normally off - this could be with the lever reversed in the frame, or (more likely) with the lever normal, so pulling the lever puts the signal to danger - this would be done when a conflicting move was required. Looking at the photos it seems to simply route forward to another signal protecting a connection from more sidings, it would be replaced if this connection was to be used.

 

Thanks for sharing your photos.

[JeffP]

Thanks again Beast, the signal is partially hidden by the ones in front, from the angle of the photo, the actual photo is clearer. Post amended.

[JeffP]

A quick couple for this lunchtime, these two may help some modellers out there. Both of the first two taken at King's Lynn.

 

Inside the cab of 03170 which was stabled with the door open on King's Lynn station....it seemed rude to pass up the chance......

 

 

I've attached this one here, it doesn't really fit with the next set for this evening, but was in amongst them.

Class 87's in differing liveries, 87017 in Intercity and 87013 in the then new Virgin livery, stand side by side at London Euston. Early 90's.

Edited January 5, 2014 by JeffP

[fishytrains]

Plenty of great photos Jeff. Very inspiring and informative stuff.

 

Mike

[JeffP]

The class 60's soon found work on the ore trains from Immingham to BSC Scunthorpe.

 

 

Here, 60021, "Pen-y-Ghent" is moving the hoppers away from the discharge chute at the steelworks.

 

And moments earlier.

 

Class 60, 60031, "Ben Lui" brings loaded hoppers through Barnetby.

 

 

And here, 60021, "Pen-y-Ghent" again, brings empty hoppers back near Elsham crossing.

 

An unidentified class 47 runs westwards along the old four-track section east of Barnetby, the photo is taken from the footbridge at Melton Ross.

 

Sprinter overtakes Pacer at Barnetby, sprinter unit 156448 is on a non-stop service while Pacer 142062 awaits the road east.

 

An unidentified class 37 in triple grey minerals sector livery climbs Gunhouse bank into Scunthorpe on a fine summer's day, hauling empty 100t tanks. This shot is now impossible due to the build up of vegetation both along the roadside and along the trackside.

 

Lastly, ex 16T mineral carrying the codes ZHV and running number DB557568 stands at Brigg, awaiting it's last journey to the scrapyard, February 1992. My eldest son, then 6, stands in front, wearing what he used to call his "Lion coat" parka, (because it had a fur trim like a mane), for scale......well, that's my excuse.

The wagon is marked, crudely, "Don't Load" on the doors.

Edited January 5, 2014 by JeffP

[RANGERS]

Note the hand point lever in the platform.. The points are too far from the box to be worked (350 yard limit) but are facing point locked from the box (no limit).... a handy dodge..

Nice shot, what year was it taken?

 

Not sure about the 350yd rule applying here though, the box is on the end of the platform the DMUs standing at and from memory it's 11 coaches in length putting it around 750ft away.

[MarshLane]

Hi Jeff,

 

Just spent a very happy half hour reading this topic and looking at the images, we didn't realise how dull the scene could get!  Living in the area all my life, I still remember the double-headed 37s thundering up from Wrawby Junction through Barnetby station on Iron Ore workings.  Have to say, while i was pleased to see new traction, I really missed the '37s' after the 60s took over those trains ... and as for 60053 John Reith - my god, i'm sure that thing was connected to Immingham Depot on an elastic band! It always came back!  Every visit to Barnetby would result in 60053 putting in an appearance!  I can just about remember the end of the 20s working around Scunthorpe - but remember standing on Brigg Road Bridge with my dad, and with the breeze blowing in your face hearing the whistle of 20s off Frodingham Depot!  Ah happy times!  Only went round the depot once, from memory there was a Scottish 47s on there, but can't remember which one now.

 

Anyway, a couple of points on things already posted:

 

This next photo, although not one of mine, shows a trip in June 1962 to Doncaster works:

 

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Now that's a scene I'd like to reconstruct, even the Crimpsall erecting shop wall has character!

 

Sad to note that all of the Crimpsall shop (i.e. the 1960s shot of the A1 and all the Doncaster Works pictures posted so far) has been totally demolished - the whole Crimpsall site is baron waste land now.  Although the gates are still on the post and firmly locked!  Very sad indeed tho.

 

With regards to 50s appearing at Scunthorpe - Im sure there were a few, my Dad observed 50008 Thunderer in Trent Yard during the 1950s, it arrived light engine from Doncaster and from memory departed back the same way about an hour later.  That loco was to be the bane of our lives - the first time we saw a 50 in a day was that damm thing!  Birmingham - first one was 50008, Exeter - first one was 50008 ... and then to top it all ... we walked onto Bury Bolton Street one day and can you guess what was stood there!! 

 

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A shot of the HST power car with buffers, number 43067. I can't remember why this particular unit had the revised front end. it is heading north from platform 8, part of the works' test-train can be seen behind it.

 

The HST power cars that were fitted with buffers were so equipped for the initial runs with Class 91s, before the Mk4s and DVTs were built.  From memory there was six, and they were used on test runs from Bounds Green to Doncaster - usually a Class 91 and then a set of Mk3 sleepers, with a buffer-fitted power car on the other end.  Not sure if the sleeper stock was off the overnight Scottish sleepers or just a spare 'scratch' rake.  I recall a driver telling me in the past, that some of those runs were spectacular on timing, as the HST power cars worked with the 91s apparently, meaning that there was power being applied from both ends of the train!  Given the ability of the ECML overhead to collapse, maybe thats the answer today!

 

Also with regards to your shot of 59206, yes it was a cast number plate - all the 59/2s had them under National Power days - they did all become named, but that was a little later on.

 

Anyway, thanks for posting the images Jeff, hopefully more to come!  What recollections and memories they bring back!  Can we start  new thread on here for inventing a time-machine ... and if so, bags me first ride!!!!!

 

Rich

[PatB]

Lots of good stuff here, from an era which I remember well. Surely it wasn't that long ago .

 

I find the 91 particularly interesting as, although newish, the nose is already quite grubby and there is also very obvious wrinkling of the metal around the tops of the cab doors.

[JeffP]

A serious illness (glandular fever) in early 1988 resulted in some time off work, and being told by my doctor to get out a bit in my last week off. A mate drove us over to Crewe for the day on 6th April 1988.

 

Gloucester parcels unit heading South. Sorry, I didn't note the number, probably class 128.

 

Class 86, 86241, "Glenfiddich",  takes a southbound express passenger out of Crewe.

 

Class 85, 85007 waits to leave with a southbound postal service.

 

And here, 85002 takes another southbound postal service.

 

NSE liveried class 86, 86401 waits to leave with the non-stop service to London Euston.

 

Class 47, 47200 with a northbound speedlink service.

 

Class 86, 86439, southbound express passenger.

 

I can't remember what came off, but class 47, 47615 "Caerphilly Castle" was put on the front of this southbound express.

 

Finally, a glimpse of one of the then brand new class 90's, 90004 seen with a long lens from the works footbridge entrance. One minute later we were summarily ejected.

Edited January 6, 2014 by JeffP

[Grimleygrid]

Hi Jeff, Iovely photos of the Metals 60s on the iron ores. So much variety to be seen with 20s, 37s, 47s, 56s and 60s!

 

Thanks for posting them.

[jonny777]

I don't think that is a Cravens parcels unit, probably a Gloucester one of class 128.

[JeffP]

I don't think that is a Cravens parcels unit, probably a Gloucester one of class 128.

Noted....and amended, thanks.

[JeffP]

Tonight we are once again back at Doncaster. The first two show how the livery of the HST's was changing at that time.

 

First we see the old livery, power car 43062, "County of Leicestershire", is at the rear of a northbound service on 10th April 1988.

 

And here, power car 43102 in the newer livery is at the rear of another northbound service.

 

Nameplate of power car 43116.

 

a quick look in at the works finds class 47, 47279 at the rear of the Crimpsall erecting shop.

 

now some changing liveries on class 56's. First, Romanian built 56014 in coal sector livery.

 

And then Doncaster built 56081 in BR blue.

 

Scottish class 47, 47650 hauls newspaper vans south past the works frontage.

 

Next, another Scottish class 47, 47655 hauls the Streamline Express charter train north through Doncaster.

 

And lastly, tonight, 47431 hauls the laboratory coach north into Doncaster.

Edited January 6, 2014 by JeffP

[keefer]

The 128 will be one of W55991-55996 as these originally had end gangways, in this case removed and plated over

 

Great pics though, so normal and a bit 'so what?' at the time, but now a lovely trip back in time

Edited January 6, 2014 by keefer

[JeffP]

In the Spring of this year, we bought a little old caravan, having been flooded out of our tent the previous summer in the Gorges du Tarn with a three month old baby, the wife said never again for canvas.......

 

So we took it on a shake down trip to Appleby in Westmoreland.

The result was that our little Ford escort 1.3GL, which towed it well on Lincolnshire flatlands, had a fit every time it was asked to go up a serious hill.........

 

The upside was that we camped at Great Ormside, which wasn't far from Appleby.

 

 

1st of June 1988 sees NSE liveried class 47, 47573, "The London STANDARD", with the evening Carlisle to Leeds service, about to depart from Appleby.

 

 

 

 

[trisonic]

You missed your vocation, Jeff (although probably richer) you're a good railway photographer.

 

Thanks for the Stratford "Cockney Sparrer"...

 

Btw full sized versions of this sticker are still available from someone - but I lost the link - if anyone knows the website address please link to it on here.

 

Best, Pete.

[JeffP]

Whilst up at Appleby, we also had a day-trip from Penrith to Carlisle, where I had never stopped off before, only ever having passed through. These next set were all taken there, on 31st May 1988. (Wife and little one went shopping....)

 

Intercity liveried class 86, 86419 starts an express southwards.

 

10,000hp to take steel strip over Shap.....classes 87, 87101, "Stephenson" and 87015, "Howard of Effingham" await the road from Carlisle Citadel.

 

Arriving from the south is class 37/0, 37080 with a train of TTB tanks.

 

Standing in the bay platform, a class 110 waits with the Kendal service.

 

Minus it's nameplates, class 87, 87016, "Sir Francis Drake" brings a southbound Speedlink service through Carlisle.

 

Class 47, 47457, "Ben Line" has brought a train over the Settle and Carlisle line, and is about to be uncoupled. Meanwhile, class 81, 81011 awaits the road with a spoil train.

 

Class 87, 87003, "Patriot" waits to leave with a northbound service to Glasgow.

 

Class 26, 26029 takes the station avoiding line at Carlisle with southbound parcels empties.

 

The Glasgow to Penzance service is hauled here by class 87, 87017, "Iron Duke".

 

Carlisle based 08912 is on the through roads at it's home town station.

 

Scottish based class 47, 47462 is at the buffers after bringing in a service from Edinburgh.

Edited January 7, 2014 by JeffP

[brushman47544]

Superb photos, and an interesting Scottish livery variant on 47462.

 

BTW, the DMU in the bay platform is a Class 108, not 110.