Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

Hello Dave, yes, the Deltics at Barkston are absolute 'belters'! Thanks so much for sharing this wonderful archive. Ref. J5911; who is/was Ben??

 

 

I've no idea!

 

Nor have I any idea why the quote box below has appeared.

David

 

 

Edited November 1, 2017 by DaveF

[iands]

In J2085 there appears to be some wooden trunking in the four foot. Some sort of tuned track circuit or similar?

Hi LNERGE,

 

If you look closely in tge shadow cast by the "wooden location", at the sleeper ends you will see two smaller metal boxes (mounted on metal spikes or even short lengths of "recycled" channel rod). These are two tuning units for the track circuits. There were two types (that I know of), one was an 'ASTER' track circuit, and the other was a 'LUCAS' track circuit (perhaps one of the more qualified signalling engineers on this forum can confirm if I've got this right, or correct me if I'm wrong). The cables were indeed routed in wooden trunking in the 'four foot'. These cables were supplied at a specific length for each track circuit as they formed part of the tuned circuit - the wooden trunking (being non-conductive/capacitive/inductive) would not affect the tuned circuit.

 

One advantage of using 'tuned' track circuits was that they negated the use of block joints in CWR, thus removing a potential failure/fracture point around the bolt holes required for a block joint. However, they didn't provide a definite and physical separation between two track circuits as a block joint would provide. There was a small area of 'floating' track circuit between the two tuned circuits that would appear to "move" back and forth along the rails, but only for a short distance of a few inches.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Regards, Ian.

[LNERGE]

I've not come across this arrangement before. i figured it was an earlier type of tuned track circuit. Many thanks.

[keefer]

J2085 - the headcodes changed with the 1969 timetable so an Edin-KX would've been 1Exx

 

napier-chronicles has 1A28 15:05 Bradford - King's Cross (15:35 ex Leeds). http://www.napier-chronicles.co.uk/wtt69-70.htm

[tiger]

There is only one loco this can be and you need to get the number dead right to win this latest "Spot-the-Deltic" competition!

D9021?

 

I think I can make out the tell-tale sign of bolts on the cab roof where the roof mounted air horns were originally mounted on D9019, D9020 and D9021.

 

The double line nameplate rules out D9020 NIMBUS.

 

There is a regimental crest above the nameplate, but that doesn’t help as both D9019 and D9021 carried a crest.

 

However there looks to be more red on the lower half of the nameplate either side of a single central word as if it says:

 

ARGYLL & SUTHERLAND

         HIGHLANDER

 

Like this: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_03_2014/post-13196-0-57109400-1394743452.jpg

 

Rather than:

 

            ROYAL

HIGHLAND FUSILIER

 

like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Carried_with_pride-_%27Royal_Highland_Fusilier%27_nameplate_-_panoramio.jpg

 

And finally "D9021" not just "9021" as, according to Chronicles of Napier, the "D" prefix was still carried in March 1970 but had been removed by May 1970.

 

Am I right?

 

Thanks Dave F for scanning all of the amazingly evocative pictures on this thread which bring back fond distant memories from early childhood.

 

Cheers

 

Tom. 

Edited November 2, 2017 by tiger

[DaveF]

The ECML in Northumberland again for today.

 

As most of you know Ulgham Lane crossing is north of Morpeth, Widdrington is a few miles further north.  The Widdrington photo actually shows a train passing the old brickworks just to the north of the station, at Stobswood.

 

Warkworth is several miles beyond Widdrington.  The train is passing the site of the station.

 

 

Ulgham Lane crossing Class 254 down Flying Scotsman June 81 C5428

 

 

Ulgham Lane crossing Class 101 Newcastle to Alnmouth June 81 C5441

 

 

Ulgham Lane Crossing Class 254 up 27th Oct 84 C6651

 

 

Widdrington 55018 Newcastle to Edinburgh Aug 80 C5165

 

 

Warkworth Class 40 up freightliner Aug 80 C5157

 

 

David

[Clive Mortimore]

Yes the size of the nameplate is a giveaway. It must be MELD. 

 

Seriously though, the 47 in J2034 is a generator. The numbers and spacing suggest it is 1508, but it could be 1518, although I favour 1508 personally.

 

Paul J.

Hi Paul

 

I would agree it is 1508, have a look at the cant rail grilles, they lack the transverse supports found on most the class but not the first 10.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Northumberland ECML photos. Interesting to see a class 40 on a freightliner in the last one. And the HSTs make a great sight in the livery that was originally applied on them.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Western Glory]

D9021?

I think I can make out the tell-tale sign of bolts on the cab roof where the roof mounted air horns were originally mounted on D9019, D9020 and D9021.

The double line nameplate rules out D9020 NIMBUS.

There is a regimental crest above the nameplate, but that doesn’t help as both D9019 and D9021 carried a crest.

However there looks to be more red on the lower half of the nameplate either side of a single central word as if it says:

ARGYLL & SUTHERLAND

         HIGHLANDER

Like this: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_03_2014/post-13196-0-57109400-1394743452.jpg

Rather than:

            ROYAL

HIGHLAND FUSILIER

like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Carried_with_pride-_'Royal_Highland_Fusilier'_nameplate_-_panoramio.jpg

 

And finally "D9021" not just "9021" as, according to Chronicles of Napier, the "D" prefix was still carried in March 1970 but had been removed by May 1970.

 

Am I right?

 

Thanks Dave F for scanning all of the amazingly evocative pictures on this thread which bring back fond distant memories from early childhood.

 

Cheers

 

Tom.

 

Correct, well done. J2085 must be D9021.

 

It was the only Deltic with nameplate lettering longer on top row than bottom and number is too long to be plain 9021.

[DaveF]

Around Aisgill and Dent  on the Settle and Carlisle for today with some of the photos being devoted to infrastructure rather than trains.

 

 

Aisgill Aug 73 C1374

 

 

isgill Class 40 40096 down freight July 74 J3816

 

 

Aisgill Class 45 down Thames Clyde July 74 J3818

 

 

Dent Aug 77 J5785

 

 

Dent Head viaduct Aug 77 J5786

Edited November 4, 2017 by DaveF

[woodenhead]

Classic railway shots today.

[eastwestdivide]

"some of the photos being devoted to infrastructure rather than trains"

 

Expect we've all done that before - turned up somewhere promising, and there weren't enough trains to photograph!

[melmerby]

"some of the photos being devoted to infrastructure rather than trains"

 

Expect we've all done that before - turned up somewhere promising, and there weren't enough trains to photograph!

Maybe it was a Sunday with the boxes switched out?

All the signals appear to be off.

 

Keith

[DaveF]

Maybe it was a Sunday with the boxes switched out?

All the signals appear to be off.

 

Keith

 

 

I think that by 1977 Dent signal box was often switched out but I cannot remember the exact details.

 

David

[melmerby]

"some of the photos being devoted to infrastructure rather than trains"

 

Expect we've all done that before - turned up somewhere promising, and there weren't enough trains to photograph!

I once went to Derby Friargate as a lad to see some of that foreign stuff from the "Eastern" (I'm a Brummie, so LMS & GWR only)

Not one loco or train was seen in a hour or more so went back to Derby works for a sniff around.

I didn't know that the GN line to Friargate was near as dammit closed!

 

Keith

[Davexoc]

I just like how that class 40 is still in green with TOPS numbering, but the class 45 is in corporate blue but retains it's original number.

A great collection and having detoured via Ribblesdale once on a trip back from Scotland once, always vowed to return but sadly have never managed it.

Regards,

Dave

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. I like the Settle and Carlisle photos. I particularly like the one of 40046 in J3816. But all are such great photos and it’s hard to single one out.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Clive Mortimore]

I just like how that class 40 is still in green with TOPS numbering, but the class 45 is in corporate blue but retains it's original number.

A great collection and having detoured via Ribblesdale once on a trip back from Scotland once, always vowed to return but sadly have never managed it.

Regards,

Dave

Hi Dave it took nearly 3 years (I think) to renumber everything. Many classes it was easy, class 40s in the D2xx range just took 40 0xx keeping the same last two digits and those in the D3xx series became 40 1xx, the exception being D200 who became 40 122 as 322 had been withdrawn. The dear old Peaks, well the class 45s were the last class to be fully renumbered. At the time they were being either converted to ETH 45/1 or remaining steam heat 45/0. There appeared to be no master plan for them so as each member of the class went through works it took the next number according to its heating type. That is why it is so hard to tell the D number identity of a Peak without referring to some reference material. It took a long time for all the Peaks to go through the works so some were running around with their old number for a long time.

[Western Glory]

Around Aisgill and Dent  on the Settle and Carlisle for today with some of the photos being devoted to infrastructure rather than trains.

 

Aisgill Class 40 40046 down freight July 74 J3816.jpg

isgill Class 40 40046 down freight July 74 J3816

 

 

The fourth digit is most un-4-like. The "Broad Gauge Method" suggests 40096.

[45125]

The fourth digit is most un-4-like. The "Broad Gauge Method" suggests 40096.

 

As it has a Clayton boiler it cannot be 40046, 40096 is more likely.

[DaveF]

The fourth digit is most un-4-like. The "Broad Gauge Method" suggests 40096.

 

 

As it has a Clayton boiler it cannot be 40046, 40096 is more likely.

 

Thanks to both of you, I've altered the caption.

 

David

[DaveF]

The Great Eastern today, mainly around Ipswich with Manningtree and Felixstowe as well.

 

 

Ipswich Sproughton sidings 31177 down May 75 J4277

 

 

Ipswich Sproughton sidings 37109 down freight May 75 J4301

 

 

Ipswich Sproughton sidings Class 37 shunting May 75 J4302

 

 

Manningtree SR S15 841 Greene King turning on triangle 3rd April 76 C2662

 

 

Felixstowe Beach April 75 J4255

 

 

David

[mikejames]

The fourth digit is most un-4-like. The "Broad Gauge Method" suggests 40096.

 

out of interest - what is the 'broad gauge method'

regards

[Western Glory]

out of interest - what is the 'broad gauge method'

regards

Expand the image, but twice as much horizontally as vertically. The pic with 'thumbnail' below is 300% width & 150% height of the original and unsharpened.

Edited November 4, 2017 by Western Glory

[The Johnster]

out of interest - what is the 'broad gauge method'

regards

 

 

Take 2 rails and lay them exactly 7 feet and 1 quarter inches apart, on baulk timbers.  

 

Coat?