Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[DaveF]

Two new locations for this thread today, on the Southern in Kent at Ashford and Appledore.

 

I think this thread will reach one million views sometime today or tomorrow, very many thanks to all who look at the photos and for all the comments.

 

 

Ashford 33210 and Class 423 7881 Jan 79 C4263

 

 

Ashford Cass 411 7197 up Jan 79 C4264

 

 

Ashford Class 423 7880 up Jan 79 C4265

 

 

Appledore Class 205 1117 July79 C4618

 

 

Appledore Class 205 1117 July79 C4619

 

 

David

[russ p]

Love the pictures of Appledore,was it still double track to Rye back then?

Interesting that it's only a disc signal for the Lydd/ Dungeness branch

[Fat Controller]

Ashford's changed a bit since you took those photos; the area in the rear of your second photo (where the wagons are standing) is now occupied by the Hitatchi depot, with HS1 passing in front of it on a viaduct.

[eastwestdivide]

Love the pictures of Appledore,was it still double track to Rye back then?

Interesting that it's only a disc signal for the Lydd/ Dungeness branch

 

Think the singling was around or just before before 1983, to judge by this pic of mine: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/544-southern-region-photos-1980s/?p=752312

which shows a pile of sleepers, I think from the singling (and also some colour lights) 

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. A great set of photos today. A million views, that will be another remarkable milestone for this thread and very well deserved too.

In photo C4619, that signal would make a great model. And, as remarked earlier, it is interesting to see a disc signal for the branch.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Swindon 123]

More wonderful shots Dave

 

J1184 - definitely a 46, D186 or D188 perhaps?

 

And J1251 - D1839 - a cracking shot of the Stones boiler port , decent shots are not common and this is the one variant Bachmann have yet to produce...

 

Thanks once again

 

Phil

Not D186 as this was an early one to blue, with red buffer beams and had been so since March 1967.

 

Paul J.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Just to congratulate you on now having officially over one million views. As I said earlier, it is a remarkable achievement.

 

Best regards,

 

Rob.

[Tom D]

Hi Dave,

 

Congratulations on the one million views, thanks for posing your photos, have really enjoyed viewing them.

 

All the best

 

Tom D

[DaveF]

A visit to Carlisle on Tuesday 12th April 1988 for today.  As usual it was quite a dull day with very little contrast in the light, so I took a lot of "record" photos rather than anything "pictorial".

 

The Class 90s were brand new then.

 

 

Carlisle 47482 12th April 88 C9402

 

 

Carlisle 81002 and 86407 down FIAT car train 12th April 88 C9414

 

 

Carlisle 85032 up freight 12th April 88 C9417

 

 

Carlisle 90004 90003 90001 12th April 88 C9434

 

 

Carlisle 86226 Parkeston Quay to Glasgow and Edinburgh 12th April 88 C9437

 

 

David

[jonny777]

Thanks for the latest photos, David.

 

Ashford photos are full of nostalgia for me, as I married a girl from Romney Marsh; and so on quiet family days it was 'natural' to drive her and her mother into town for shopping purposes while I spent time either on the station or in the cattle market car park if the weather was bad.

 

My visit was not complete without a drive along the road which used to run parallel to the station (on the Marsh side), where lots of 2-EPBs were stabled between rush hours, as they were used as strengtheners in commuter trains in those far off days. I think the Eurostar terminal is located on that area now, but I don't recognise much of Ashford when I return there now.

[Fat Controller]

Thanks for the latest photos, David.

 

Ashford photos are full of nostalgia for me, as I married a girl from Romney Marsh; and so on quiet family days it was 'natural' to drive her and her mother into town for shopping purposes while I spent time either on the station or in the cattle market car park if the weather was bad.

 

My visit was not complete without a drive along the road which used to run parallel to the station (on the Marsh side), where lots of 2-EPBs were stabled between rush hours, as they were used as strengtheners in commuter trains in those far off days. I think the Eurostar terminal is located on that area now, but I don't recognise much of Ashford when I return there now.

I think the sidings you refer to are 'Newtown Berthing Sidings' which are between the 'Designer Centre' and the station; they're still there, and in daily use. On the station itself, almost all has been rebuilt (in the case of Beaver Road bridge, twice) since those photos were taken. The only thing that remains of the station that was rebuilt for the Kent Coast Electrification is a small part of the 'Booking Hall Bridge' at the London end; this was retained as a Fire Exit from Platforms 3&4 (Eurostar platforms) to the road side of Platform 1

[uax6]

Is  C9437 a photo of the train that used to run as The European?

We used to use it a lot for holidays in the 80's (we had no car) getting on at Ely and either getting off at Oxenholme or Glasgow Queen Street. A really useful service.

Strange that we always reserved seats and they were always in coach A, which always appeared to be a vehicle with one defect or another. I remember one journey where it had no lights and had been marshalled outside the trailing full brake, in an effort to dissuade people from using it, which didn't work. I spent most of the journey stood in the BG watching the countryside through one of the droplights...

 

I miss those journeys, real trains, with comfy coaches (even the BG rode well!) and services that really did go from one side of the country to another, without having to go via London.....

 

Andy G

[jonny777]

I think the sidings you refer to are 'Newtown Berthing Sidings' which are between the 'Designer Centre' and the station; they're still there, and in daily use. On the station itself, almost all has been rebuilt (in the case of Beaver Road bridge, twice) since those photos were taken. The only thing that remains of the station that was rebuilt for the Kent Coast Electrification is a small part of the 'Booking Hall Bridge' at the London end; this was retained as a Fire Exit from Platforms 3&4 (Eurostar platforms) to the road side of Platform 1

 

 

I think you are right, because the road I was referring to ran parallel to the sidings and then went underneath the Hastings branch and ended up by the works, (where there were still a few sections of overhead wiring visible in the early 1970s).

 

I had no idea the sidings were still there; but then when I come in on the Romney Marsh road there are so many retail outlets that I lose my bearings. In the old days we would come in on Kingsnorth Road and Beaver Road.

[Fat Controller]

I think you are right, because the road I was referring to ran parallel to the sidings and then went underneath the Hastings branch and ended up by the works, (where there were still a few sections of overhead wiring visible in the early 1970s).

 

I had no idea the sidings were still there; but then when I come in on the Romney Marsh road there are so many retail outlets that I lose my bearings. In the old days we would come in on Kingsnorth Road and Beaver Road.

The sidings use some former overhead supports to carry lighting, I believe. Apart from units, they are used to stable locos. These days, I presume you come off the M20 at Jct 10 to avoid the delights of crossing Ashford centre.

[Market65]

Hi, Dave. Some really great photos of Carlisle today. I like the portrait view of 47482 in the first photo.

 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

Pilmoor in 1966 and 1967 with green Class 47s and Deltics today.  Once again some of the train identifications may or may not be correct.

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1536 up frieght July 66 J562

 

 

Pilmoor Class 55 ?D9017 DLI down Heart of Midlothian  14.00 Kings X to Edinburgh, taken on a Saturday July 66 J567

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1573  09.35 Newcastle to Kings X June 67 J0923

 

 

Pilmoor Class 55 D9020 Nimbus 11.00 Newcastle to Kings X to Kings X June 67 J0927

 

 

Pilmoor Class 47 D1107 up special July 67 J963

 

 

David

Edited July 7, 2016 by DaveF

[Fat Controller]

That first one's a curiosity: I don't think I've ever seen a train with as many Lowfits in it. Some yellow chocks are visible, suggesting the last load was of vehicles of some sort. Perhaps export tractors?

 

Alycidon was decidedly dirty; was that the same Deltic that featured in a view of York station a couple of posts ago? Today's photo shows evidence of a recent derailment, with new track on the line nearest the photographer (odd they've relaid a busy route like this with bullhead), and a bogie abandoned on the other side of the tracks.

[cctransuk]

Today's photo shows evidence of a recent derailment, with new track on the line nearest the photographer (odd they've relaid a busy route like this with bullhead), and a bogie abandoned on the other side of the tracks.

 

..... and the wagon body - BOBOL E ? - on the far bank in J562 ?

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

[Fat Controller]

..... and the wagon body - BOBOL E ? - on the far bank in J562 ?

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

Well spotted, John!

[cctransuk]

Well spotted, John!

 

..... especially as I was using my long-range viewer from here in the Peloponnese (Greece).

 

Regards,

John.

[DaveF]

That first one's a curiosity: I don't think I've ever seen a train with as many Lowfits in it. Some yellow chocks are visible, suggesting the last load was of vehicles of some sort. Perhaps export tractors?

 

Alycidon was decidedly dirty; was that the same Deltic that featured in a view of York station a couple of posts ago? Today's photo shows evidence of a recent derailment, with new track on the line nearest the photographer (odd they've relaid a busy route like this with bullhead), and a bogie abandoned on the other side of the tracks.

 

 

..... and the wagon body - BOBOL E ? - on the far bank in J562 ?

 

Regards,

John Isherwood.

 

I've always wondered just what the derailment was, it wasn't mentioned in magazines at the time (as far as I know).

 

In those days there was rarely anyone else at Pilmoor taking photos so I never found anyone to ask.

 

David

[jonny777]

That first one's a curiosity: I don't think I've ever seen a train with as many Lowfits in it. Some yellow chocks are visible, suggesting the last load was of vehicles of some sort. Perhaps export tractors?

 

 

On another thread some time ago, there was a discussion of 'F' headcode goods trains on the ER and their complete absence from the WTTs. We reached a rather non-confident conclusion that they may have been military services which had paths that could be used on an "as required" basis.

 

There were a lot on the GN&GE some days, but none for weeks afterwards.

 

Maybe this train is on empty Lowfits after/before transporting military vehicles?

[hmrspaul]

That first one's a curiosity: I don't think I've ever seen a train with as many Lowfits in it. Some yellow chocks are visible, suggesting the last load was of vehicles of some sort. Perhaps export tractors?

 

Alycidon was decidedly dirty; was that the same Deltic that featured in a view of York station a couple of posts ago? Today's photo shows evidence of a recent derailment, with new track on the line nearest the photographer (odd they've relaid a busy route like this with bullhead), and a bogie abandoned on the other side of the tracks.

Wouldn't relaying with short lengths of bullhead be normal as the way to get the sleepers in place, and then the long welded rail is put down later? The method used for decades?

 

Paul

[Fat Controller]

Wouldn't relaying with short lengths of bullhead be normal as the way to get the sleepers in place, and then the long welded rail is put down later? The method used for decades?

 

Paul

If you're going to relay with long-welded flat-bottom rail, then you lay panels of flat-bottom. If you use panels of bullhead, then you'd have to remove all the chairs to install flat-bottom rail.

[hmrspaul]

If you're going to relay with long-welded flat-bottom rail, then you lay panels of flat-bottom. If you use panels of bullhead, then you'd have to remove all the chairs to install flat-bottom rail.

Thanks Brian, yes apologies.

 

Paul