Prometheus Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Thanks. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted March 9, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2018 Brilliant, many thanks - that would actually be a pretty straightforward job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
County of Yorkshire Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) My 1364, as arrived yesterday, partnered with a recently built Coopercraft 7-plank open (Dia 02), an Ian Kirk P17 ballast wagon built last year, and a modified Hornby AA15 Toad, allocated to Cardiff. An improbable but not impossible line up circa 1947? I need to get the rolling road out now... and a layout built! CoY Edited March 10, 2018 by County of Yorkshire 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndg910 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Sorry to go off topic but where did you get the CO circle transfer from for the Ian Kirk P17? I am doing the same kit right now and have a number of completed mermaids and starfish for my ballast train but none with that transfer as it’s not on the HMRS sheet and I can’t find it via Fox Transfers. Love the line up by the way. My 1363 is a little gem and well worth the wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted March 10, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 10, 2018 Sorry to go off topic but where did you get the CO circle transfer from for the Ian Kirk P17? I am doing the same kit right now and have a number of completed mermaids and starfish for my ballast train but none with that transfer as it’s not on the HMRS sheet and I can’t find it via Fox Transfers. Love the line up by the way. My 1363 is a little gem and well worth the wait. You'll find loads of them on my transfer sheet C89; see https://www.cctrans.org.uk/products.htm . Regards, John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 11, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 11, 2018 My 1364, as arrived yesterday, partnered with a recently built Coopercraft 7-plank open (Dia 02), an Ian Kirk P17 ballast wagon built last year, and a modified Hornby AA15 Toad, allocated to Cardiff. An improbable but not impossible line up circa 1947? IMG_2052.JPG IMG_2051.JPG IMG_2053.JPG I need to get the rolling road out now... and a layout built! CoY The only improbability is the somewhat adrift brakevan otherwise no problem at all as 1361s definitely worked mainline freight trips both before and after WWII if published photos are to be believed. (There is rather nice published pic somewhere of 1362 busily making its way with a short(ish) trip freight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndg910 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 You'll find loads of them on my transfer sheet C89; see https://www.cctrans.org.uk/products.htm . Regards, John Isherwood, Cambridge Custom Transfers. Thank you John I’ve ordered this afternoon. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) 1365 parked in the lay-by siding on No Place. The WD saddletank behind gives an impression of how big it isn't. A second pic showing why Andy uses multiple images and Photoshop to get the full depth of field..... A little stiff at the moment, but running-in won't happen until Tuesday at the earliest. The layout isn't set up as the controllers are attached to Hawthorn Dene until after Ally Pally. Hence the lack of other stock cluttering up the pics. Les Edited March 11, 2018 by Les1952 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 14, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 14, 2018 1363 scrubs up well with some quality weathering from Toboldlygo of this parish. Fire irons come supplied in the box by Kernow. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimC Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Brilliant, many thanks - that would actually be a pretty straightforward job. According to RCTS the 1392s in their final guise actually had 1361 boilers. The only trouble with picking the 1392, which was Holcroft's model for the 1361, is that they were so similar at the end, that one would have trouble telling them apart. They did have a rather different cab and bunker though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2018 According to RCTS the 1392s in their final guise actually had 1361 boilers. The only trouble with picking the 1392, which was Holcroft's model for the 1361, is that they were so similar at the end, that one would have trouble telling them apart. They did have a rather different cab and bunker though. The 1392s also had different saddle tanks - but one of those reputedly made its way onto a 1361 and still exists on the remaining engine. There are various other differences although I don't think it would be impossible to produce one from various of the 1361 parts plus scratch building of the cab and bunker area using Kernow's model of 1363 as the starting point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted March 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2018 My 1361 is now apparently on its way, together with two bargain Bachmann GWR Shunters Trucks! CoY Bingo!! Kernow are working to schedule, mine have been despatched today!! Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted March 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2018 Brilliant, many thanks - that would actually be a pretty straightforward job. According to RCTS the 1392s in their final guise actually had 1361 boilers. The only trouble with picking the 1392, which was Holcroft's model for the 1361, is that they were so similar at the end, that one would have trouble telling them apart. They did have a rather different cab and bunker though. The 1392s also had different saddle tanks - but one of those reputedly made its way onto a 1361 and still exists on the remaining engine. There are various other differences although I don't think it would be impossible to produce one from various of the 1361 parts plus scratch building of the cab and bunker area using Kernow's model of 1363 as the starting point. Thanks gentlemen. For my own part I was thinking of a fictional loco. I looked into the 1392s earlier and that would be a more involved project as you say. I was hoping for a little light relief in this case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted March 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 1363 scrubs up well with some quality weathering from Toboldlygo of this parish. Fire irons come supplied in the box by Kernow. imageedit_1_3358444616.jpg Though the fire irons needed reducing in length, as they would of put the loco out of gauge if they hadn't been Edited March 15, 2018 by toboldlygo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 15, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 15, 2018 It would be nice if the screwlink coupling was available as a spare as it's a quality component and would sell well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I've posted this elsewhere but it came out quite well so I thought I'd share on here as well: Tony 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2018 I've posted this elsewhere but it came out quite well so I thought I'd share on here as well: Tony I want another. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted March 16, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 16, 2018 Looks like they're mating..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted March 16, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 16, 2018 How does it compare to the Heljan model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prometheus Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Can't help you there I'm afraid: I've only seen photographs of Heljan's offering. However, I gave it my vote because Kernow commissioned a model whose various releases have allowed for different detailing / positioning of parts. As their website notes, one tool would not have been able to provide all of the varieties. Heljan did not adopt this approach as far as I am aware. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2018 How does it compare to the Heljan model? See post #625. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted March 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2018 I want another. I want one! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium OnTheBranchline Posted March 17, 2018 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 17, 2018 The Kernow ones ('humps' apart) are as specific as they can be to the prototype numbers they are carrying, the Shed Codes are correct for each engine in the livery it is carrying, they chimney height is correct for each engine as portrayed as are the position of the tool box, tank vent, tank filler hinge, bunker back and so on. Over the years - seemingly. by the 1930s in some cases - most engines in the class differed from others in some way or another and by the post war period there were probably only a couple which were the same as each other in every detail - typical GWR standardisation. The preserved engine 1363, is different from all the others in one important respect as it has a different saddle tank with various fittings in different places and the tank side handrail at a different height. From what I have seen of them all the Heljan versions seem to be exactly the same as each other. To be fair, Hornby and Bachmann would probably do the exact same approach as Heljan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2018 To be fair, Hornby and Bachmann would probably do the exact same approach as Heljan. Definitely not the case with the Hornby 'Castle' and the most recent 'King' where use of individual detail parts has allowed detail variation, e.g. right down to the oil pipe covers and buffer housings, to be included which means you have to take considerable care with renumbering or pick the right one to match the detail on a specific engine you want to renumber to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted March 17, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 17, 2018 It would be nice if the screwlink coupling was available as a spare as it's a quality component and would sell well. I have contacted Kernow on this and will post any developments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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