RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2015 Great move adding the sloping road Jason it helps you imagine that the ground by the drops has all been built up. Out of interest would a mill like this have any need for any sort of water tower? Would one fit in the back right hand side corner?? Built in steel (rusty of course) it would add an interesting contrast to all the stonework. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted May 11, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2015 Hi Chris. The sloping road definitely helps as without it, the tall shed looked contrived and as you say, it does suggest that the site is built into the contours of the hill. The tower will eventually have a water tank added to the top, the question being whether it should be a shallow one that fits the full dimensions of the tower or a half / three quarter width one with the remaining part being walled in and having access from the tower, and a ladder up the tank side. The latter is my favoured option as otherwise, how would they have access to maintain it? Maybe I give these things too much thought. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2015 Yes, go for the latter. Will look better IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold mudmagnet Posted May 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2015 Impressive stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Some lovely modelling ,look forward to the tower with the water tank on the top I think I've seen pics (can't remember where though) of towers with either the name of the mill owners on the water tank or on the tower Just wondering have you a name for the mill or owners of it Sorry if you've already said Thanks Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted May 11, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2015 No name yet, we've not even fully decided what they make there yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 11, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 11, 2015 (edited) Baseball caps ? More likely be army uniforms, carpets, sailcloth, blankets or similar. Edited May 11, 2015 by Stubby47 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted May 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2015 flat caps...... rhubarb netting or ferret overcaost come to mind.... hat , coat , gone.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted May 12, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2015 A thought for the top of the mill tower, namely the section without the tank. I was wondering whether to use iron railings and stone corners rather than a wall round the whole thing. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I don't know how common it is but I like the idea of the iron railings and stone corners Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted May 12, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2015 Just looked at Dalton Mills on Dalton Lane in Keighley with Google Streetview, there are decorative railings on one of the towers on the central (larger) wing of the mill. Lovely building by the way, fire up Google and have a look. They are currently renovating it (post the Google car passing). I may drive past it on the way home and get some photos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Anotheran Posted May 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2015 I've just looked at Dalton Mill as you recommended. It is a lovely building as you say. My only query re the ornate railings would be that they seem to go with the ornate cupola type structures of Dalton Mill. Would you be adding in such structures? If not, will they still fit? I suspect they will, but have to say I'm not sure until I see it, but they'd be quite some work if they don't look right. The climbing road, by the way, is a piece of genius. It makes a huge change to the whole scene putting it fully into the imagined surrounding landscape with it's varied contours. Kind regards, Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted May 12, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2015 The difference is that you are seeing the back of this mill rather than the more decorative road / front side. The railings though, would be visible from all sides. That is what I keep telling myself anyway 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-GNR Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I say railings & stone corners for sure. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Anotheran Posted May 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2015 To me that's the perfect answer; logical and practical! Though with the quality of your modelling I'd have liked to see your take on the cupolas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Popular Post Jason T Posted May 17, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Popular Post Share Posted May 17, 2015 I made a water tank that covered half of the tower and it looked really odd so I plumped instead for a shallower full width one - it's not stuck down yet (it slots on and off to allow painting to be done). As with the bridge girders, Slaters rivets have been added along with a top lip. The water in the tank will hardly be visible but a 'floor' of plastikard has been added and will be finished off by painting it and then loads of coats of clear varnish. 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted May 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Morning Jason, my immediate reaction is that the tank looks too shallow on that tower. They probably would have considered water capacity over aesthetics in real life but at the moment you have a small cherry on a big bun ;-p (View offered with constructive not critical intentions) Edit: Ignore my deranged nonsense folks - photos prove that 5' high tanks were the norm. Edited May 17, 2015 by 2ManySpams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted May 17, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2015 I see what you mean Chris but the tank measures the scale equivalent of 30' x 20' x 5'. My brain isn't working yet but I imagine that calculates out at quite a lot of gallons of capacity and quite a lot of weight and pressure. It also looks about the correct dimensions compared to a few photos of real tanks I've found on good old Google. There are also a lot of reservoirs on high ground in East Lancashire and West Riding so would it be considered more as a header tank as there would be no great need to pump gallons and gallons of water up to it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted May 17, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) I have to say I agreed with Chris, so I've done a quick and dirty photoshoppery to see what it would look like if the tank was half as high again: I dunno... think it looks a bit heavy, as you said. What do you reckon? Al. Edited May 17, 2015 by acg_mr 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeeleyBridge Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Hi Jason The capacity of the tank would work out at round about 22,500 gallons and 112 tons. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Stubby47 Posted May 17, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 17, 2015 I think the larger tank looks better - it has more 'presence' and better proportions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted May 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2015 Hi Jason The capacity of the tank would work out at round about 22,500 gallons and 112 tons. Dave You can add the weight of the tank to that, which takes you to around 120 tons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted May 17, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted May 17, 2015 The tower is 85' tall; this is no piddly building we are talking about here. Build the tank to look in what people think is in proportion and as a stand alone feature it would be too large and structurally unsound for the volume of water it would hold. In other words, my opinion is that it is totally wrong to build it in 'proportion' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Another photo shop, this time using same tank size, but doubled up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 They look a lot smaller than I thought they would be! The Huddersfield Station Water Tower http://www.acorp.uk.com/Assets/Water%20Tank%20image.jpg http://www.acorp.uk.com/Assets/Regioanl%20news%20assets/Huddersfield%20-%20water%20tower%2021.2.12%20003%20web%20large.jpg http://www.acorp.uk.com/Assets/Regioanl%20news%20assets/Huddersfield%20-%20water%20tower%2023.5.12%20004.jpg Worthing Brewery Tower https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.81161,-0.364641,3a,75y,323.93h,95.41t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sn55XEgxh9QnQkiH8vO1f2g!2e0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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