RMweb Premium Andy Hayter Posted July 2, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2017 Reds generally cover badly and are best applied on a red (used to be red lead but I am sure it is not today) undercoat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 2, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 2, 2017 Reds generally cover badly and are best applied on a red (used to be red lead but I am sure it is not today) undercoat. I am sure where Richard lives he will (if not already) be able to buy red lead paint when President Trump "tears up" the anti toxic substances laws and anti pollution laws. :no: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 I am sure where Richard lives he will (if not already) be able to buy red lead paint when President Trump "tears up" the anti toxic substances laws and anti pollution laws. :no: i can then lick my fingers and eat a sandwich without having to wash my hands properly afterwards. now that is true freedom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 Finally got a run at the roof of the Lms and southern stuff. (Technical Term) Discovered simple trick to paint roof by sticking surplus sprue on to its underside to hold much like on people painting. The break is hidden inside the coach once finished. The Lms stock one still missing axel boxes and springs. If I painted it black would anyone notice? Like Roy jacksons p2 2-8-2 has no rear wheel. Then the southern. First in brown as that was as far as I can discern LSWR colours for these and the a BR maroon van. The green set However these apparently originated on the SECR so one might be repainted....need to find out livery. Last one needs paint job finishing, black ends and subframe. I painted the ends green so I must have seen that somewhere I will check Perhaps they will be finished before my travels. Richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2017 Hi Richard Without getting my books out but I think the SR 4 wheeled brake van would be in some sort of green. They were SR only as far as I recall (could be wrong). The SR design of van was taken from a SECR design, so it is highly unlikely that any would be in LSWR livery. You could paint it BR blue.......................................... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted July 3, 2017 Author Share Posted July 3, 2017 The little one has some connection to the SECR whether based upon or actually from, but the notes on the end one say it came from LSWR unless a southern guru can enlighten further as not my area of expertise. Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 3, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 3, 2017 Hi Richard I have got my Southern Coaches by Mike King off the shelf. All SR vans were based on SECR design. The brown van is a diagram 3092 Brake Van called a Van C by the SR and a BY in BR days.They were built by the SR from 1937 to 1941. They were the first vans to have the two wide then two narrow planks side sheeting that became a distinctive sign of SR vans. They were in various SR greens and BR green, some ran in crimson during the 1950s and some were painted BR blue before they were withdrawn. A few had stoves and they had orange panels in the top corners and on the guards door. The very similar diagram 3094 had safes for bullion. They were easy to tell by the red painted panels in the top corners with large numbers. This panel was painted blue when they were in crimson livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 To keep Clive happy. Brown now repainted, found also had orange making, most noticeable. It covers as badly as the red. Also altered the longer version. Can't insert for some reason on I pad today. Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted July 6, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 6, 2017 Very pretty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 Wait until it is weathered and has transfers, then it will look dead sexy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 A month away without modeling. Previously unheard of. I had to make do with colourising old photographs. It really helped to pass the time on the long flights. Some modern image ones i am afraid, but they have persuaded me to do one or two things. Normal service will hopefully resume shortly. Richard 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggy1165 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) I have to say I rather like the LNER green A4s. I must be the only one though as I have never seen a model in that condition. And, yep, I've spotted that the bottom one is a B17. Edited August 8, 2017 by Poggy1165 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 I have to say I rather like the LNER green A4s. I must be the only one though as I have never seen a model in that condition. And, yep, I've spotted that the bottom one is a B17.After doing the picture, It is now on my to do list so photos once it is done.Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 Trying the camera on the new I pad work forced me to swap to. My old one worked fine and I understood it....a bit. Now have to learn a new one. Any one brave enough to do a quadart in lner teak needs his head examining. First in teak so painting and then transfers for every door. Enough to send one round the bend On the plus side set78 was photographed in Nottingham Victoria on an excursion to skegness, so we can have it. Just have to build the j6 which was pulling it. The others are transferred up too. The last is numbered 4140 as I have decided to convert it to the cinema coach. Black out the windows, boards on the roof and some extra rectangular vents on the roof and we are all set. Now just the other companies stock to do. Richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Lovely spread of teak, nicely rendered, if I may say. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Lovely spread of teak, nicely rendered, if I may say. Really teak has a even tone over the panels, i.e. it doesn't get darker towards the door frames. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Really teak has a even tone over the panels, i.e. it doesn't get darker towards the door frames.I assume you were most drawn to the two without bogies? They were my playing around to get a heavily weathered, long in the tooth look on a couple of carriages. It is supposed to be dirt rather than the teak. Still too much? I could have a go at taking it back more to the edges. Views? Richard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardian Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I assume you were most drawn to the two without bogies? They were my playing around to get a heavily weathered, long in the tooth look on a couple of carriages. It is supposed to be dirt rather than the teak. Still too much? IMG_3211.JPG I could have a go at taking it back more to the edges. Views? Richard I should have thought that dirt and, indeed shadow (which often needs to be painted at scale) will adhere to the corners and edges of beading, and that is what I assumed you had done, and rather effectively IMHO. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 I should have thought that dirt and, indeed shadow (which often needs to be painted at scale) will adhere to the corners and edges of beading, and that is what I assumed you had done, and rather effectively IMHO.Kind words, but always up for constructive advice, it is amazing how a tweak here and a tone down there can make such a vast difference to a model. The finish of my builds has vastly improved by taking an extra couple of file strokes to clean up each join. Came from some advice. Only way to get better. I will look at them again, though the camera never quite shows what is seen in the flesh. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billbedford Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) I assume you were most drawn to the two without bogies? They were my playing around to get a heavily weathered, long in the tooth look on a couple of carriages. It is supposed to be dirt rather than the teak. Still too much? IMG_3211.JPG I could have a go at taking it back more to the edges. Views? I didn't mean that, because weathering looks different. What I mean is that it is very easy to over paint the graining so that the paint puddles at the ends of the panels. This is what I see on these models. The way to avoid this is by dry brushing the graining. Then vanishing and then weathering. Also the framing around the doors did not necessarily match the colour of the adjacent panels, it could have been either very much lighter or darker. Edited August 9, 2017 by billbedford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 Might be working but have kids off my hands so progress has been quick. How people without kids do not produce a model a week I do not know. LMS stock Can't seem to find 12T transfers to go between the LMS and the number. Then the GWR lot Can't find a suitable number for the beetle, anyone know one off hand. Also can not find a monster transfer so might have to make my own. The southern started What I appreciate is that these look the same, but Clive had made sure one was same planking, one different sized alternate planking and one metal sided. Great attention to detail. One post war LNER piece Bogies to go. I am working on that. Lastly the NER pair. Correct numbers but the 4 wheeler should have motor and carriage truck on its side. Again I need to think how I am going to replicate that.......without ruining the model with a poor rendition of it. 5 more need transfers then on to glazing. I dread to think how many. A quick maths sum worked out ther are over 100 separate transfers on the quad art alone! How many windows on all the stock here? I am trying not to think about it. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 The images of the gwr stock came out poorly so in better lighting Then thought I had not posted the set number added to the quadart . It adds a touch of realism to the end Richard 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 The last of the transfers! The BR livery southern van Fewer transfers than the earlier versions. Then the guards vans I need to tone down sides with weathering. The CCT transfers made up from off cuts from others. I am putting on record how much of a fight pressfix transfers are. They are not my friend. How does anyone put them on neatly? Lastly the Thompson brake. Lining on an unmarked side by eye, avoiding the handles was a fight. Just got to make bogies for it. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted August 11, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hi Richard The Thompson brake looks great, and it is an MTK kit. For your information the SR van with the plain sides was made from plywood. When are you next in the UK? I have built the SR van replacements, they are awaiting the paint shop at the moment. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard i Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Hi Richard The Thompson brake looks great, and it is an MTK kit. For your information the SR van with the plain sides was made from plywood. When are you next in the UK? I have built the SR van replacements, they are awaiting the paint shop at the moment. Plywood / metal. The important thing is you were dedicated enough to make it subtly different. The Thompson is the MTK kit. I actually really enjoyed building it. Does that make me weird? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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