Lochinvar Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Engineering samples of the long-promised CCT/PMV/PLV variants now available to view on the Bachmann home page. A must have,methinks,for any parcels train almost anywhere in the UK in the 50s. Would also be correct as part of passenger consists. DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robday12 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I can see me adding the two in BR period liveriy to my over large collection of NPCCS cheers Rob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Engineering samples of the long-promised CCT/PMV/PLV variants now available to view on the Bachmann home page. A must have,methinks,for any parcels train almost anywhere in the UK in the 50s. DR ..and the 60s & 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 18, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hi. There was nearly always a PMV attached to the rear of the 20.10 to Hull from Bridlington back in the mid seventies - usually a three or four car DMU. Looking forward to these vans. All the best, Market65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 An absolute must for anyone doing parcels and tail traffic in any meaningful way. I am staunchly astride the Border and I'll be into the type for double figures. Bring them on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimbus Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I'm puzzled as to why the CCT is being restricted to blue livery. It's been a favourite vehicle of mine since Dublo days. The Nim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted December 19, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 19, 2014 As Bachmann originally announced the SR CCT/PMV in March 2012, in their 2012/13 programme, it is good to see first photos of these - they have had a long gestation. To my mind they look strangely inanimate in dark grey plastic - they are going to look much better once paint and printing is applied. There was a thread for these, but it is currently at page 7 of the Bachmann area - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/58096-39-527-ex-southern-pmv-parcels-miscellaneous-van-br-green/ It has sunk down the listings with time. No real need to link them now, as the earlier thread doesn't add to what we have here. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted December 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) Bachmann continue to confuse Passenger Luggage Vans (PLV) / Parcels and Miscellaneous Vans (PMV) and Van Utility / Covered Carriage Truck (CCT) designations. For clarity the PMV and CCT are the BR designations when referring to the ex SR vans 'PLV' and 'Van U' and are two different vehicles the latter Van U / CCT had the end opening doors. The Bachmann Blue CCT is in fact based on a CCT vehicle which has been converted to a PMV, this is evident from the sealed end doors with four vents at each end (item No. 39-528). An image of such a vehicle can be found at This information was supplied to me by Bachmann themselves. Edited December 22, 2014 by Graham_Muz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2014 Better get that last kit finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben04uk Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Bachmann continue to confuse Passenger Luggage Vans (PLV) / Parcels and Miscellaneous Vans (PMV) and Van Utility / Covered Carriage Truck (CCT) designations. For clarity the PMV and CCT are the BR designations when referring to the ex SR vans 'PLV' and 'Van U' and are two different vehicles the latter Van U / CCT had the end opening doors. The Bachmann Blue CCT is in fact based on a CCT vehicle which has been converted to a PMV, this is evident from the sealed end doors with four vents at each end (item No. 39-528). An image of such a vehicle can be found at . This information was supplied to me by Bachmann themselves. Thanks for the helpful information. Do you know the numbers of any other ex SR CCT vehicles which were converted to a PMV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autocoach Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) Is the Bachmann model then strictly a BR period CCT vehicle rather than a Southern Van U vehicle? I have Parkside kits and other models going back to K's kits for various Southern vans so these may be incorrect for my pre January 1948 model world. Edited December 20, 2014 by autocoach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2014 I can see me adding the two in BR period liveriy to my over large collection of NPCCS cheers Rob. Don't forget Rule 2: It is not possible to have too much NPCCS. John 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robday12 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Don't forget Rule 2: It is not possible to have too much NPCCS. John Rule 2:, covers Brake vans also? I've got too many of them aswell! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy W Posted December 21, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2014 That's easy, run an enthusiasts' Brake Van Tour. I also have a vague memory of seeing photos of trains of several brakevans, with a caption explaining they were being moved from one yard to another to deal with seasonal traffic flows. I'd amend rule 2 though - It is not possible to have too much NPCCS and the more different designs the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45125 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Thanks for the helpful information. Do you know the numbers of any other ex SR CCT vehicles which were converted to a PMV? Several CCTs had the doors sealed when the foot steps were removed. Most appear to have the operating linkage for the locking bolts partially removed and locking plates secured across the doors. However most kept their CCT branding. Regards Al Taylor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochinvar Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 The recent appearance of EP samples created some optimism (here at least) that we might be seeing these in the flesh before too much longer. But more patience is required it seems. Release in Aug/Sept according to the latest update on the Bachmann site. If I've got this right,that would make it about 30 months since announcement. DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Graham_Muz Posted February 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 6, 2015 I hope to have an update following attending the Bachman media day on 2rd March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 The recent appearance of EP samples created some optimism (here at least) that we might be seeing these in the flesh before too much longer. But more patience is required it seems. Release in Aug/Sept according to the latest update on the Bachmann site. If I've got this right,that would make it about 30 months since announcement. DR That's allowed the wallet to relax a little, cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted February 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 6, 2015 Mucklebackit at post 16 above "Release in Aug/Sept according to the latest update on the Bachmann site. If I've got this right, that would make it about 30 months since announcement." I think it is much longer than that - Bachmann announced the SR CCT/PMV in March 2012, so in a month's time that is already 3 years/36 months since announcement. Aug/Sept will make it 41 or 42 months (3 and a half years) since announcement. To my mind it is curious, especially when there is no motor or valve gear to develop. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium it's-er Posted February 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2015 Photos of these have now appeared on Bachmann's web pages, in SR green, and BR green, crimson and blue, at: http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=branchline&prod=6 They are now due in August/ September. The GWR auto coaches are also shown on this page, due at the same time. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2015 Photos of these have now appeared on Bachmann's web pages, in SR green, and BR green, crimson and blue, at: http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=branchline&prod=6 They are now due in August/ September. The GWR auto coaches are also shown on this page, due at the same time. John The R.R.P of the autocoaches will ruffle a few feathers on here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted February 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 27, 2015 Photos of these have now appeared on Bachmann's web pages, in SR green, and BR green, crimson and blue, at: http://www.Bachmann.co.uk/prod1.php?prod_selected=branchline&prod=6 They look very good, but I'm not sure about the olivey green of the "BR Green" version, although it's almost better than Bachmann's current very dark interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2015 They look very good, but I'm not sure about the olivey green of the "BR Green" version, although it's almost better than Bachmann's current very dark interpretation. The blue one looks a bit on the bright side too, so I'm not placing too much reliance on the photos. In any case, after a couple of years in service, you could seldom tell what colour they were underneath all the grime! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) They look very good, but I'm not sure about the olivey green of the "BR Green" version, although it's almost better than Bachmann's current very dark interpretation.Really exciting for me. S1101s is almost certainly my first colour photo of rolling stock - so early I don't have an accurate date. I never dreamt it would reproduced as a rtr 50 years later. Feeling old! Paul 1733 is also from my photos, even down to the incorrect but correct PMV as the end door is sealed. Edited March 9, 2015 by hmrspaul 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 Really exciting for me. S1101s is almost certainly my first colour photo of rolling stock - so early I don't have an accurate date. I never dreamt it would reproduced as a rtr 50 years later. Feeling old! Paul 1733 is also from my photos, even down to the incorrect but correct PMV as the end door is sealed. Acknowledged by Bachmann Paul? Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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