RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted November 3, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 3, 2022 Fair play George, that looks first rate! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted November 3, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 3, 2022 Can you post a photo or a sketch of the girders that you require, please? I may be able to give you some pointers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted November 3, 2022 Author Share Posted November 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Siberian Snooper said: Can you post a photo or a sketch of the girders that you require, please? I may be able to give you some pointers. Thanks for the message, here's the original engineers' drawings if I wanted to do a proper copy 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 George What is the issue with the canopy you have already built ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted November 4, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 4, 2022 I have had a look at it and the basic structure is doable in plasticard and plastic strip. How far you want to go with the ornate gusset plates is another matter. If you let me know the span and the vertical height, for the model, I will attempt to draw the vertical elements, to which you would add the horizontal strips. The blue lines are the dimensions required. Please note, that this will take a while to do, as and when I get a spare half hour or so, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 08:38, hayfield said: George What is the issue with the canopy you have already built ? It has no supporting girders beneath the roof. Structurally, as a ,model it doesn't need them since the dirty glass canopy sits on a perfectly clean perspex canopy which make the whole thing totally rigid for handling. It needs internal girders of course like the real thing even though they are just for show. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 04/11/2022 at 08:46, Siberian Snooper said: I have had a look at it and the basic structure is doable in plasticard and plastic strip. How far you want to go with the ornate gusset plates is another matter. If you let me know the span and the vertical height, for the model, I will attempt to draw the vertical elements, to which you would add the horizontal strips. The blue lines are the dimensions required. Please note, that this will take a while to do, as and when I get a spare half hour or so, That's very kind of you to offer to help. I'll try to have ago myself and if I fail, I'll take yo up on your kind offer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 Adding some detail, though people might like to see how the whole scene comes apart for maintenance and retrofiting (in this case brackets 15 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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George Hudson Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 Sorry, that's all a bit of a miss mash of pictures but I think you've got the idea! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post George Hudson Posted November 12, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2022 Here's some more shot also showing why I need to get some roof girders in, pronto! The column on the far platform isn't fixed so I can straighten it! 29 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 This is very much quality modelling you have created a slice of Liverpool St the walkway and the building on it are just like the one I used to walk along and the building over the surburban platforms was a cafe.I will keeep an eye out for your postings thanks, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 10/11/2022 at 21:34, George Hudson said: Sorry, that's all a bit of a miss mash of pictures but I think you've got the idea! The only thing that looks at all odd about those photos is that various uprights seem to be leaning like tower of Pisa, but I don't doubt that is just the optical effect of wide angle photography. Excellent work, respect !😄 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post George Hudson Posted January 6, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2023 After a lot of trial and error I knocked up some roof support from a combination of 2mm card and plastic strip. To fix these to the walls of the terminus I made some "gutters" again from 2mm card strips the central gap of which would hold the supports. This would be a friction grip so the whole structure can be dismantled for maintenance and access. These parts were all sprayed green then anthracite. and fixed in place. This will need to be improved with some plastic mouldings (yet to be sourced) to represent cast iron decoration in Victorian style and strips connecting the supports lengthways i.e. parallel to the rails, to represent more supporting ironwork. As it is I think it represents a good start to finishing off the largest structure on the layout. 17 18 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold simon b Posted January 6, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 6, 2023 That is absolutely stunning work, I take my hat off to you sir. Not that you need to, but just that scene would make a great micro layout on it's own. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 10 hours ago, simon b said: That is absolutely stunning work, I take my hat off to you sir. Not that you need to, but just that scene would make a great micro layout on it's own. I'm tempted to do a micro layout of a terminus around 1840 now Hornby has produced its pioneer range. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted January 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2023 6 hours ago, George Hudson said: I'm tempted to do a micro layout of a terminus around 1840 now Hornby has produced its pioneer range. The problem with that is how far are Hornby going to go with the pioneer range? Even if they expand it hugely you will be scratch building 90% of the stock and 98% of the locos. What are the chances of them producing a Polka, a Jenny Lind, a Norris or a Kitson long boilered 0-6-0 or even a Crampton? Fairly close to ZERO I would say. They might do something like Thunderer or Hurricane for novelty and because they were both 1 offs and also quite large but don't hold your breath as the motion is on display right out in the open and getting them to go around any sort of curve will be a nightmare. Still it's not a bad idea if you don't go with anything prototypical and are happy to run whatever you can get or bash into something else. A sort of sketch of the railways in the 1840s. Lots of turntables everywhere could be fun. Regards Lez. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold lezz01 Posted January 7, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2023 ...and of course they won't do Thunderer or Hurricane because they are broad gauge. I can't really see Hornby producing even a circle of 7' balk road. If they went for BG it would be with a star class or a rover and maybe an Armstrong for freight. Sadly though it will never happen. Mind you with 3D printing and if the BG soc. got it's act together with drawings and 3d renders more people might model broad gauge. I know I would. Regards Lez. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 On 07/01/2023 at 15:42, lezz01 said: it's not a bad idea if you don't go with anything prototypical and are happy to run whatever you can get or bash into something else. A sort of sketch of the railways in the 1840s. Lots of turntables everywhere could be fun. That's where I'd be and the operational side would be minimal probably; for me it's a lot about the buildings and layout composition (in the sense of a painting). Would love to do broad gauge also! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted January 9, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 9, 2023 Good to see that you have managed to sort the roof trusses out, without assistance. A tidy job. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandhole Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 On 06/01/2023 at 21:57, George Hudson said: After a lot of trial and error I knocked up some roof support from a combination of 2mm card and plastic strip. To fix these to the walls of the terminus I made some "gutters" again from 2mm card strips the central gap of which would hold the supports. This would be a friction grip so the whole structure can be dismantled for maintenance and access. These parts were all sprayed green then anthracite. and fixed in place. This will need to be improved with some plastic mouldings (yet to be sourced) to represent cast iron decoration in Victorian style and strips connecting the supports lengthways i.e. parallel to the rails, to represent more supporting ironwork. As it is I think it represents a good start to finishing off the largest structure on the layout. Oozes atmosphere. Superb work, Regards, Chris. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post George Hudson Posted March 9, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2023 Afternoon all, After a longish break I have returned to modelling the City around Aldersgate. This low relief building is inspired by an office building on the corner of Threadneedle Street and Bishopsgate for those who know the area. Of course it's much less detailed than the original and these photos show my "hairy" modelling in all its glory but the general impression at normal viewing distance is fairly good, if I can say that. As ever thanks for your interest. Andrew 15 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 "Hairy modelling", he says..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Hudson Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Thanks to those who have been interested in developments at Aldersgate. Here's an update covering the East End/Shoreditch part of the layout. Warning: no trains have participated in this video. 8 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 27, 2023 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 27, 2023 Utterly believable, Andrew. Your buildings capture the feel of the area in that era. Stunning stuff. Dare I say - no trains needed for effect? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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