MrWolf Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) I think that you might be onto something with the GC brake van Idea. Steve Banks. They also built the Toad to end all Toads. (Picture from 1920) Bristol museums Busby wasn't all bad. Autosh1te. / Lightstraw Edited September 2, 2022 by MrWolf Scratching ear with foot. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted September 2, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 Morning all, I think Le Wulf has nailed it re the GC 6 wheeler. Now, where to find a kit....? That bogie brake van is quite something though what exactly I'm not sure. On the subject of corporate road vehicles, anyone else not a fan of the yellow livery BR applied to their road vehicles ? I suspect it may have been a decision made in terms of trackside visibility but I find the earlier Maroon and Cream livery far more palatable. I've acquired a couple of BR vans in this livery to dot about Bleat and Ewe. The one is a Southern Region example so is destined for Bleat (yes, I know by the period I model, Bleat would have been W.R). The other is Eastern Region so is off to Ewe. However, Rule one will be applied for now. The reason ? The registration number wasn't issued until late 1953 so fine if I'm using diseasals but less so when the J70s flit about as they went in '52. I have no doubt some rivet counting, nit picking, nasal jobsworth would have taken delight in pointing it out at an exhibition if I hadn't have checked.............The problem is, now that I have checked.....I'm troubled by it, whereas before......You can't win but at least I won't have to suppress an overwhelming desire to shove my finger ( right index if you're interested ) firmly into the eye of said R.C.N.P.N.J.W if they WERE to point it out. Both vans will of course be suitably weathered. Rob. 11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted September 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: The other is Eastern Region so is off to Ewe. However, Rule one will be applied for now. The reason ? The registration number wasn't issued until late 1953 so fine if I'm using diseasals but less so when the J70s flit about as they went in '52. I have no doubt some rivet counting, nit picking, nasal jobsworth would have taken delight in pointing it out at an exhibition if I hadn't have checked.............The problem is, now that I have checked.....I'm troubled by it, whereas before......You can't win but at least I won't have to suppress an overwhelming desire to shove my finger ( right index if you're interested ) firmly into the eye of said R.C.N.P.N.J.W if they WERE to point it out. Rob. You must know someone who can sort you out some false plates....just saying.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted September 2, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 Just now, Gilbert said: You must know someone who can sort you out some false plates....just saying.... 🤐 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I much prefer the maroon and cream livery and the old Bedford CA 10/12cwt van looks particularly good in it. https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fcontent-eu.invisioncic.com%2Fy320084%2Fmonthly_01_2010%2Fpost-3430-12645082393509.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rmweb.co.uk%2Findex.php%3F%2Ftopic%2F920-railway-motors%2Fpage%2F2%2F&tbnid=cB-uNzmpZ36B_M&vet=1&docid=N0a8Pr99nCapIM&w=420&h=349&hl=en-GB&source=sh%2Fx%2Fim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortuga Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 While I prefer the cream and maroon livery, there are certain vehicles I can only visualise in the yellow. The Bedford TKs (?) and Mercedes Unimogs for example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 The Bedford TK was launched late 1959 for the 1960 model year, replacing the cab over engine S type, so you're more likely to see them in yellow, but some must have been maroon and cream? The Unimog, appeared in original form late 1947, but the style we are used to seeing dates from 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Moxy Posted September 2, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 2, 2022 10 minutes ago, MrWolf said: The Bedford TK was launched late 1959 for the 1960 model year, replacing the cab over engine S type, so you're more likely to see them in yellow, but some must have been maroon and cream? The Unimog, appeared in original form late 1947, but the style we are used to seeing dates from 1963. http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1096563-Bedford-TK-1961.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted September 2, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 I tend to limit the vehicles on the layouts to small vans or lorries. I aim to avoid anything articulated on the same way as I avoid large locos, wagons or buildings so as not to 'overpower' the layout. 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Donw Posted September 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 I rather think artics in those days were less likely in the quiet backwaters you favour. The certainly seemed to be a lot less common in the 50s and horse drawn vehicles were still fairly common. Although I didn't see any railway vehicles horse drawn. Don 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortuga Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, MrWolf said: The Bedford TK was launched late 1959 for the 1960 model year, replacing the cab over engine S type, so you're more likely to see them in yellow, but some must have been maroon and cream? The Unimog, appeared in original form late 1947, but the style we are used to seeing dates from 1963. I’m too young to have seen maroon and cream BR vehicles ;) 1 hour ago, Moxy said: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_1096563-Bedford-TK-1961.html Well. I take back what I said. Maroon and cream does look better than all over yellow on a Bedford TK. Thats going to be an interesting mix of colour; wasn’t the original Speedlink livery aluminium and orange or am I thinking of the later livery? Edited September 2, 2022 by Tortuga Muddling colours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 Nice to see EWE in this months BRM Sir. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Fox 34F Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 8 hours ago, MrWolf said: I think that you might be onto something with the GC brake van Idea. Steve Banks. They also built the Toad to end all Toads. (Picture from 1920) Bristol museums Busby wasn't all bad. Autosh1te. / Lightstraw The Bogie Brake Van, ‘Toad’ is for a Narrow Gauge line. There is a Centre Buffer visible, with coupling chain underneath. I’ve no idea where this other G.C.R., is in the world? It would be a lovely model, mind. Paul 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted September 2, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, gwrrob said: Nice to see EWE in this months BRM Sir. Hi Rob. Thank you. I had no idea it was out as of yet but yes, knocked up a few words to compliment the photos taken at SWAG in April. Perfect timing, thanks to all concerned at BRM, ahead of Ewe's first paying public appearance at Portishead next month. Rob. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted September 2, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Donw said: I rather think artics in those days were less likely in the quiet backwaters you favour. The certainly seemed to be a lot less common in the 50s....... Don Exactly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted September 2, 2022 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 Ahem. I'm currently weathering a couple of 03s. I thank you. 9 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 3 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Ahem. I'm currently weathering a couple of 03s. I thank you. Bless you. Keep applying the cream and if it doesn't go away come back and see me. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted September 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 6 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Thank you. I had no idea it was out as of yet but yes, knocked up a few words to compliment the photos taken at SWAG in April. A cracking feature and you and others should be on commission from MBR as I've just ordered from them too.😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Flying Fox 34F said: The Bogie Brake Van, ‘Toad’ is for a Narrow Gauge line. There is a Centre Buffer visible, with coupling chain underneath. I’ve no idea where this other G.C.R., is in the world? It would be a lovely model, mind. Paul It came up in the search and despite not being a British Great Central vehicle, (although British built.) I thought it would be interesting to share it. The answer BTW, is Brazil. http://museums.bristol.gov.uk/details.php?irn=235956 Edited September 2, 2022 by MrWolf 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted September 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, MrWolf said: It came up in the search and despite not being a British Great Central vehicle, (although British built.) I thought it would be interesting to share it. The answer BTW, is Brazil. http://museums.bristol.gov.uk/details.php?irn=235956 And it's what we in the UK would call a Road Van, having a sizeable goods compartment with a 6-ton carrying capacity in addition to the Guard's accommodation. As the man said, though, it would make a fabulous subject for modelling. John 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Asterix2012 Posted September 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 21 hours ago, NHY 581 said: I think I'll rename the thread 'The Buzby Chronicles'........... I feel the need to do something railway related........... Rob. And all this started with mentioning sharing poles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold jollysmart Posted September 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, MrWolf said: Busby wasn't all bad. Autosh1te. / Lightstraw You clearly never drove one of those Rommel racers as they were nicknamed, due to being an abandoned export contract to Libya, straight 6 petrol engined, about 5 miles to the gallon and a turning circle close to the diameter of the earth resulting in more walls knocked down and vehicles scraped. Absolutely wonderful around town and so easy to park.. They would however, in relative serenity, do 60 MPH on the open road, until the fuel ran out, which was fast for those days. Even a Sherpa with the idiotic detachable box, which was never detached, in the background of the photo. Pure class. Sorry for more thread drift back to the good old fun filled days when the joys were legion and the clouds rare. Edited September 2, 2022 by jollysmart Apology 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I have once owned a Bedford J type like that, but with the all steel single cab and the peaked wings used on the smaller versions and ambulances. It had a furniture van body on the back on which the whole of one side opened up as a mobile recruitment stand for the Royal Navy. We used it for the autojumbles, it wasn't too bad as it had the 4 cylinder engine rather than the five litre straight six. I did bust a finger when we dragged it out of the field that I found it in though! I sold it someone who was going to work wonders with it. As so often happens, it got dismantled sat around for a few years and was eventually scrapped. Ahem. Trains. I do believe that the GWR and the Cambrian had road vans that had been converted from 4 wheel brake vans. The G&KER definitely has one, their only brake van in fact. I'm sure that other railways had them? It would be an interesting beast for a run down branch line. I'm sure that someone on here has built one from an outside frame GWR Toad. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted September 2, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 2, 2022 The LSWR did, as modelled by Kernow's. The Brighton did too, but I don't think they lasted very long. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 LSWR? Well, that puts us back into the realms of sheep related model railways. 😇 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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