RMweb Gold Popular Post NHY 581 Posted January 27 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 27 Spent the best part of a day pottering in the Room of Doom. Quicky layout now into store and all buildings etc back in boxes. One long term 'need' is for a Sentinel to run on Ewe, simply for variety. Aside from the Y10, a 'normal' sentinel was trialled in the late '20s, shortly before the passenger services were withdrawn. It was not a success. In my world, their occasional use continued and today I dragged 68184 out. The search continues for a suitable East Anglian example and until one is located, 184 will have to do. Sheep Dip was also played with and especially for Mr Notenoughpanniers ( @2ManySpams) 7717 was roused from it's slumber........ Rob 27 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 27 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27 And of course I still have the Y10 to power........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27 17 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: And of course I still have the Y10 to power........ Is that the double ended garden shed? 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefr2 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 6 hours ago, NHY 581 said: Oh dear.....I've come over all unnecessary...... Me too, whenever I hear her....!! Keith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted January 27 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27 15 minutes ago, keefr2 said: Me too, whenever I hear her....!! Keith Come on chaps - get a grip.... 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWolf Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Gilbert said: Come on chaps - get a grip.... I'd rather they didn't get a grip of themselves, if it's all the same... 🤢 1 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 27 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 27 3 hours ago, 2ManySpams said: Is that the double ended garden shed? I can see what you're doing............ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveyDee68 Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 8 hours ago, AY Mod said: That's not an issue, it takes the same space wherever it sits. It's something I've often wrestled with but never resolved. Maybe an 'In memory of' subforum within the layouts section? Should they be locked or remain open? Without wishing to hijack Sheepbloke’s thread, I assume that missing photos (following the Great Outtage) have to be replaced by the original authors - which means those that were originally posted by modellers who have since departed will remain forever blank. Or is there a way to allow anyone who has saved such images to be able to reinsert them into those original posts? Could an account be handed over to a willing intermediary to act as a conduit for such saved images to be passed to? I realise that RMWeb exists purely through the input of willing members, but it has become such a resource for the wider modelling community it seems beyond a pity that so much has been lost. Steve S 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27 9 hours ago, AY Mod said: That's not an issue, it takes the same space wherever it sits. It's something I've often wrestled with but never resolved. Maybe an 'In memory of' subforum within the layouts section? Should they be locked or remain open? Would it be practicable to lock the topic for new posts but allow reactions to existing posts? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 27 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 27 9 hours ago, AY Mod said: My favourite Welsh voice! Her and Eve Myles do something to me. Bonnie Tyler (I must be older than you...). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 (edited) 28 minutes ago, St Enodoc said: Bonnie Tyler (I must be older than you...). So are you older than Bonnie Tyler or is she older than you. Confused of Manutopea. Edited January 27 by Winslow Boy Life was simpler when it was in Black & White Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 3 hours ago, Winslow Boy said: So are you older than Bonnie Tyler or is she older than you. Confused of Manutopea. I am a few years younger than she is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 14 hours ago, AY Mod said: My favourite Welsh voice! Her and Eve Myles do something to me. Mary Hopkin. Ahh, those were the days. 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 15 minutes ago, Gedward said: Mary Hopkin. Ahh, those were the days. Any advance on Burly Chassis (no, me neither)? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gedward Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 The minute you walked in the joint, ouch! I could see you were a man in some pain A real big loser Not looking' won't do that again 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post NHY 581 Posted January 28 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted January 28 (Old, pre bushy Norman Lockhart image of Sheep Dip ) The Sentinels have popped up on Sheep Dip in the past. Useful sorts. I noted yesterday that 68184 had a bit of a nod as it moved about the parish. A bit of investigation showed the probable cause. Dapol utilised wheels with stub axles, the final drive gears being plastic and moulded to a plastic centre axle. It was done thus as the pick ups are substantial copper elongated 'U' shapes, current being transferred via the pin point ends of the wheels into the integral wheel bearings on said pick ups. However, exactly the same as the plastic axles on Mainline and Early Bachmann split chassis, these axles can deteriorate, swell and split over time due to contact with oil. This was found to be the case with 184 yesterday, hence the nod as the axles were no longer round. Thinking I could perhaps swap axles with the other two Sentinels in stock, pending obtaining replacements, I opened up first one, then t'other. All six axles were split. Bother! The two 'best for now' were dropped in and the nod resolved, to a point but today will see replacements ordered from Peters Spares to effect a proper fix. A decoder was also fitted to 184 at the same time to allow running on Ewe. Looking back to correspondence had with @46444 of the parish in May 2020, the axles purchased and fitted back then have lasted some 3, nearly 4 years, despite or perhaps because of minimal use........ (Old, pre bushy Norman Lockhart image of Sheep Dip ) Rob 13 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 2ManySpams Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 53 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: (Old, pre bushy Norman Lockhart image of Sheep Dip ) The Sentinels have popped up on Sheep Dip in the past. Useful sorts. I noted yesterday that 68184 had a bit of a nod as it moved about the parish. A bit of investigation showed the probable cause. Dapol utilised wheels with stub axles, the final drive gears being plastic and moulded to a plastic centre axle. It was done thus as the pick ups are substantial copper elongated 'U' shapes, current being transferred via the pin point ends of the wheels into the integral wheel bearings on said pick ups. However, exactly the same as the plastic axles on Mainline and Early Bachmann split chassis, these axles can deteriorate, swell and split over time due to contact with oil. This was found to be the case with 184 yesterday, hence the nod as the axles were no longer round. Thinking I could perhaps swap axles with the other two Sentinels in stock, pending obtaining replacements, I opened up first one, then t'other. All six axles were split. Bother! The two 'best for now' were dropped in and the nod resolved, to a point but today will see replacements ordered from Peters Spares to effect a proper fix. A decoder was also fitted to 184 at the same time to allow running on Ewe. Looking back to correspondence had with @46444 of the parish in May 2020, the axles purchased and fitted back then have lasted some 3, nearly 4 years, despite or perhaps because of minimal use........ (Old, pre bushy Norman Lockhart image of Sheep Dip ) Rob Thinking about your axle swelling issue (there's a phrase you don't type every day)... If the cause is oil getting to the plastic, can you coat the plastic in something painty (like a varnish) prior to fitting and use of oil? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslow Boy Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 hours ago, St Enodoc said: I am a few years younger than she is Ah an older women. We all go through it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 28 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28 33 minutes ago, 2ManySpams said: Thinking about your axle swelling issue (there's a phrase you don't type every day)... If the cause is oil getting to the plastic, can you coat the plastic in something painty (like a varnish) prior to fitting and use of oil? Morning Spams, Possibly. The problem us that the ends are pretty much the smooth bearing surfaces. I wonder therefore, if the issue is the ends them selves rather than the surface if that makes sense so by gluing the wheels in would that then seal the ends, thereby preventing oil getting into the ends themselves ? I'll post some images in a moment or two of my swollen end................ R 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, NHY 581 said: (Old, pre bushy Norman Lockhart image of Sheep Dip ) The Sentinels have popped up on Sheep Dip in the past. Useful sorts. I noted yesterday that 68184 had a bit of a nod as it moved about the parish. A bit of investigation showed the probable cause. Dapol utilised wheels with stub axles, the final drive gears being plastic and moulded to a plastic centre axle. It was done thus as the pick ups are substantial copper elongated 'U' shapes, current being transferred via the pin point ends of the wheels into the integral wheel bearings on said pick ups. However, exactly the same as the plastic axles on Mainline and Early Bachmann split chassis, these axles can deteriorate, swell and split over time due to contact with oil. This was found to be the case with 184 yesterday, hence the nod as the axles were no longer round. Thinking I could perhaps swap axles with the other two Sentinels in stock, pending obtaining replacements, I opened up first one, then t'other. All six axles were split. Bother! The two 'best for now' were dropped in and the nod resolved, to a point but today will see replacements ordered from Peters Spares to effect a proper fix. A decoder was also fitted to 184 at the same time to allow running on Ewe. Looking back to correspondence had with @46444 of the parish in May 2020, the axles purchased and fitted back then have lasted some 3, nearly 4 years, despite or perhaps because of minimal use........ (Old, pre bushy Norman Lockhart image of Sheep Dip ) Rob As ModelRail/Dapol are doing a new run of these, there’s a reasonable chance if you contact them, spares may be available 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Re6/6 Posted January 28 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, NHY 581 said: I'll post some images in a moment or two of my swollen end................ We don't talk about that sort of thing in our house!🐑 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 28 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28 Just now, PMP said: As ModelRail/Dapol are doing a new run of these, there’s a reasonable chance if you contact them, spares may be available Morning Paul, Yes, all ordered this morning from Peters Spares along with more steps and brake gear. I've ordered enough axles to replace all six and to keep a couple spare.....but not in such a 'safe place' as the others......... Rob 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NHY 581 Posted January 28 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted January 28 Said swollen/split Sentinel nether regions. Not pleasant. 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 20 minutes ago, NHY 581 said: Morning Paul, Yes, all ordered this morning from Peters Spares along with more steps and brake gear. I've ordered enough axles to replace all six and to keep a couple spare.....but not in such a 'safe place' as the others......... Rob ‘safe places’ are brilliant. Make sure that when you store them there they are unlabelled. This is important when you find them in five years time you don’t recall what they are and discard them. Ideally the bin day before an artefact breaks and you remember you’ve got spares and where they were… 1 13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted January 28 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, Winslow Boy said: Ah an older women. We all go through it. Hmm... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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