RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2015 Watch out for generalisations!!!! http://www.miac.org.uk/class42.html#brd837 Scroll down to the 837 picture Phil 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Wouldn't mind but I'd looked at that page the other night Phil! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Sorry Andy - old age creeping in! Had an attack of Warship dyslexia the other day confusing my Steadfast and Sharpshooter and its contagious....! That lovely MFYE shot of D842 above is of course Royal Oak not Triumph.... Hee hee Phil Edited March 6, 2015 by Phil Bullock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugd1022 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Andy, I have a commercially bought colour print of 832 at Reading in 1972 on Mk2 stock, alas it's a going away shot so I don't know what the working is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post Trevellan Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 6, 2015 Some Friday night faffing with a few old neg scans produces a trio of Westerns. As a sort of honorary member of SWAG (well, a gatecrasher anyway), I thought I should add some hydraulic action in Kernow. First we have Western Sultan at Long Rock in April 1974. The old GW coaling stage was interesting, but I presume it's long gone. Next we have another of those particular moments in time, this one featuring St Austell station, complete with Western Envoy calling with a down service in June 1974. Lots of period detail if you look closely. And finally, Penzance again, this time showing Western Duke arriving light engine. My notes state an exact date for this one; Saturday 31st August 1974. 21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 The other lines that I can't see much evidence of 43s on is the N. Devon and N. Cornwall lines. I don't think they let them loose on many singled lines. Not completely unknown Andy - Profile of the Warships (OUP 1984) has photos of 844 at Ilfracombe in 1970 and 842 at Barnstaple in 1971, while Diesel Hydraulics in the West Country (Ian Allan 2000) shows D848 on a lovely rake of Bulleid stock on Meldon Viaduct in 1963. I wish I could remember what they sounded like, but I was only six when the last NBL Warship was withdrawn....... David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2015 How about this? If that's genuine sound then I'm just putting a Western sound chip in my forthcoming Bacchy ones! Phil 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Re #579 above. The 1971 - 1972 WTT shows 1C96 as follows 13:45 SO Penzance - Cardiff Starts from Plymouth 16:15 until 25th September (and conveys G.U.V's Motor Cars 12t. June to 4th September) Also 'Conveys Mails' Also 'four whelled vehicles must not be conveyed onthis train' . I believe the return working (as shown above) was 5B96 20:55 SO Canton Sidings - Bristol. . Sadly, by 1971 the Saturday evening glint in my eye was not put there waiting for a Warship at Cardiff General (now I know - hindsight is a wonderful thing). . Brian R 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidB Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I think it was an issue of timing as I have seen published pics of Warships with the odd MK2 in their rakes Ditto Phill - and I still remember proudly identifying a maroon Stanier coach in a Warship-hauled northbound inter-regional at Dawlish in 1969 (when I was four), and the disappointment when my Dad told me it was one of the early Mark 2 FKs......just like the occasion a year later when I announced a major scoop after a spotting expedition to Midgham, when I convinced myself that I'd seen one of the D600 Warships pulling a freight round the curve towards Aldermaston. My disappointment on learning that they'd all been scrapped three years earlier, and I'd merely mis-identified one of Old Oak's run-of-the-mill NBL Type 2s was crushing. What I'd give today to be able to go back in time and watch that 22 trundle past again....... David 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) How about this? If that's genuine sound then I'm just putting a Western sound chip in my forthcoming Bacchy ones! Phil No. My memory of the Warships in those days, was that they lacked that low pitched 'tunefulness' of a Western as they accelerated away with a train. They did sound similar, but less refined - if I can put it like that. Edited March 6, 2015 by jonny777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 6, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 6, 2015 No. My memory of the Warships in those days, was that they lacked that low pitched 'tunefulness' of a Western as they accelerated away with a train. They did sound similar, but less refined - if I can put it like that. Tongue firmly in cheek there Jonny! Would agree with your assessment.... Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted March 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2015 Ditto Phill - and I still remember proudly identifying a maroon Stanier coach in a Warship-hauled northbound inter-regional at Dawlish in 1969 (when I was four), and the disappointment when my Dad told me it was one of the early Mark 2 FKs......just like the occasion a year later when I announced a major scoop after a spotting expedition to Midgham, when I convinced myself that I'd seen one of the D600 Warships pulling a freight round the curve towards Aldermaston. My disappointment on learning that they'd all been scrapped three years earlier, and I'd merely mis-identified one of Old Oak's run-of-the-mill NBL Type 2s was crushing. What I'd give today to be able to go back in time and watch that 22 trundle past again....... David My TARDIS moment concerns Exeter St Davids, when, in the week the recent batch of my b&w shots are dated, June 1970, I decided against a trip to Barnstaple and back behind a class 22 to continue spotting on the station. Hindsight sometimes isn't a wonderful thing. Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 To my fading memory, the class 22s sounded like a bag of spanners, but they made a wonderful noise when on full power. Although, I gathered that witnessing them on full power was something of a rarity because too long at that level and they caught fire. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted March 7, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2015 To my fading memory, the class 22s sounded like a bag of spanners, but they made a wonderful noise when on full power. Although, I gathered that witnessing them on full power was something of a rarity because too long at that level and they caught fire. I did actually travel behind one on one solitary occasion - Reading - Didcot and back including the Wallingford branch on a freight trip (and although I was actually being paid for being there I didn't have a camera with me). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve T Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 How about this? If that's genuine sound then I'm just putting a Western sound chip in my forthcoming Bacchy ones! Phil More like a Maybach Warship. Certainly doesn't sound like the MAN engines I've heard in German 612 DMU's ( not sure how to embed - see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTMIrdNTles). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 I don`t have to tell you where i am with these 2 photos, but it does look like they always stabled green 47`s at that buffer stop (compare teddybears post 562) 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2015 I don`t have to tell you where i am with these 2 photos, but it does look like they always stabled green 47`s at that buffer stop (compare teddybears post 562) Maybe it's No. 47 road and the depot staff misunderstood what that meant. But more relevant, does anyone know what the target (?) with the number 6 on it in front of the 47 in both photos meant? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Maybe it's No. 47 road and the depot staff misunderstood what that meant. But more relevant, does anyone know what the target (?) with the number 6 on it in front of the 47 in both photos meant? I think it is fixed to the blocks not the loco, it must be indicating no.6 road Here is a photo looking off the bridge the other way with 1071 standing outside the shed. On the shed are similar signs indicating numbers 2, 4 and 5 roads. Road numbers 1, 3 and 6 are short single ended roads https://www.flickr.com/photos/deadmans_handle/4367087606/in/photolist-7xtJkG-bEbUt3-dQqKb1-duXM4u-634je3-bp4JZZ-dD1Rf3-7DQDAP-d2PZ9m-5ZZK3g-fBYXBh-7DUtjy-7DQDmF-cKv9RQ-dborMs-mpcRpz-dYZnNg-7DUsZU-dm33TP-dwpPPY-j3Hjow-oS6c3t-bERBV6-oXTzeE-bEAyCr-cBazKC-j4CSkQ-j4CSfu-bx9xBe-brT9tj-qdotpT-by61Vx-cCTyH1-bwv46T-bw7dtt-cBazJs-ppPiKk-bjAy5S-j9VUE7-bENeBv-brT9tq-brTx6C-e3b2wB-6146SU-62Z7Qn-7LRkwr-d9Z97H-5ZZHfc-brzUei-brzV4n cheers Edited March 9, 2015 by Rivercider Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1030western musketeer Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 It must be said again that its good to see photos others are sharing and some great reading nights to what I believe the most talked about British traction for the wrong reasons or right reasons the hydraulics had style and the westerns being the most handsome of all locomotives . Happy days and thank all for your work and information. Richard. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEDDYBEAR D9521 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Maybe it's No. 47 road and the depot staff misunderstood what that meant. But more relevant, does anyone know what the target (?) with the number 6 on it in front of the 47 in both photos meant? The number 6 is the road number Cheers Gareth Edited March 9, 2015 by TEDDYBEAR D9521 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted March 9, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2015 D9518 at Cardiff - that is a cracking shot, possibly best lit D95xx shot ever seen! Many thanks for sharing them all Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
br2975 Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) D9518 at Cardiff General - I'd put money (but only a little) on it working from Newtown/Long Dyke to Llantrisant due to the (a) gunpowder vans, probably destined for the ICI stores at Brofiscin ( B) the hoppers returning from the 'Dowlais' aka East Moors for either Llanharry or Creigiau © and the tank wagon, possibly for by-products from either Cwm or Coed Ely coke ovens. . Very,very nice. Brian R Edited March 9, 2015 by br2975 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 A couple with a fresh coat of paint. D1030 Cardiff & D1070 Paddington. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Just noticed, but have locos like the Westerns, Got no default resetting for the wipers ( like a car) I wouldn`t want to be driving with a wiper right across my view . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 D9518 at Cardiff - that is a cracking shot, possibly best lit D95xx shot ever seen! Many thanks for sharing them all Phil I have to agree, and with all the 1960s detail in the background at Cardiff. Water cranes, old parcels trolleys, chocolate & cream station nameboards, etc., even a couple of structures from East Moors steelworks appear above the mineral hopper wagon. Cardiff must have been a fascinating railway location in those days, and I regret not visiting earlier than I did; but the draw of the ever changing locos at Bath Road prevented me from buying a day return to S Wales while on my Bristol visits. What a short sighted decision that now seems to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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