mpb56125 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 390010 in new livery Passing Runcorn https://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2017/September-2017/i-fMkfFn5/Ahttps://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2017/September-2017/i-2gcdXFv/A Markhttps://mark5812.smugmug.com 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Are the middle carriages unrelieved white? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpb56125 Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 Are the middle carriages unrelieved white? Yes Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted September 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) Another bland livery then. Thanks for posting . I hadn't thought the Pendolinos were in line for relivery. Is it maybe only one? Virgin have a habit of applying advertising liveries. Edited September 14, 2017 by Legend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Another bland livery then. Thanks for posting . I hadn't thought the Pendolinos were in line for relivery. Is it maybe only one? Virgin have a habit of applying advertising liveries. They're all going through the shop - they have a facility near Runcorn where they can shunt a set in and vinyl it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zomboid Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I hope I'm not just getting resistant to change, but plain white with a red splodge at either end is a missed opportunity. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I don't care for the livery, either on the Pendos or the IEPs. The vast acres of white look very plain and will undoubtedly show up the dirt very quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 DfT grey strikes again! But then, if your paymaster was telling you they wanted grey, youd do it. We now have: - Virgin West Coast Class 390 - Northern - South Western Railway - Great Northern/Thameslink - IET 800001-036 (to be vinyled GWR Green). It is not off-white, but very much grey at the DfT - some grey spark thought if the entire fleet is painted in a base all over grey, the individual TOCs can put on their branding and save a fortune.... of course, being a grey spark, they have not realised it is difficult to sell a grey dull railway to car and air users... Luckily, Virgin Trains East Coast shall have their own Virgin branding to the Class 800/801s - 800101 is only a celebration livery....DfT grey with a little red. All we can agree, the pendolinos, as the VTWC is a management contract, are losing their smart livery instead for DfT grey, yay! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Looking at the pictures the new livery makes a Pendo look wider and squatter not a good job especially the middle coaches whoever came up with this should be fired! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMS2968 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 They're all going through the shop - they have a facility near Runcorn where they can shunt a set in and vinyl it.Ditton Junction, Widnes. Other side of the Mersey! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black and decker boy Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 They're all going through the shop - they have a facility near Runcorn where they can shunt a set in and vinyl it.It's a full repaint with bodywork repairs. pendolinos are at half life so this work is programmed. DfT insistent on neutral livery that can carry over to next franchise (i.e. Peel off the red virgin vinyl and nothing else needed). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted September 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2017 I think it looks quite smart. That's not to say that it wouldn't be enhanced by painting the lower half a slightly greeny shade of blue and adding some white lining.... Steven B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) Too bland and unimaginative for what is the most advanced passenger train in service in Britain by a British manufacturer, Mett-Cammell, and I wish we could have lots of different liveries for the fleet just to break up the monotony of the railway scene. Let us have liveries which say "Pace and Grace" Edited September 14, 2017 by Pandora Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombatofludham Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Who says this livery is DfT specified? Also, whilst the Pendolini might have been screwed together in Birmingham and the electrics came from Preston, the bodies came from Italy and the bogies from Switzerland, and the interior fittings from a variety of countries. "British" built is stretching it a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Ditton Junction, Widnes. Other side of the Mersey! Once past Warrington it's all Liverpool to me - the accents are all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 It's odd we live in a world now where mundane freight companies have the most colourful and outstanding liveries on the railways. Maybe this is part of a cunning DFT plan to make railfreight stand out and win new business Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted September 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2017 It's odd we live in a world now where mundane freight companies have the most colourful and outstanding liveries on the railways. Maybe this is part of a cunning DFT plan to make railfreight stand out and win new business "DafT", "cunning" and "plan" are unlikely ever to appear in the same sentence. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Rather a pity. I thought that the livery, the 'face', and the overall look of the train in original red worked very well. As someone says above, this makes it look as if it ate just a few too many pies, or stopped going to the gym a month or two back. We all know that a bland, pale grey colour on a train gives an eminently forgettable look, devoid of charisma, and that only a dolt would select it, don't we? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 But in those days the whole world was in Black and White. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nearholmer Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I always thought that, but apparently not ....... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=435M5j_fTpo (Worth it for the narration alone) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) I always thought that, but apparently not ....... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=435M5j_fTpo (Worth it for the narration alone) Did he say 'it's pucking ancestors' really, I am shocked. And it's only just in colour, took a minute to show some green - maybe colour was introduced slowly to the world. Another one here, proper stirring music too Edited September 14, 2017 by woodenhead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D803Albion Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I like the new look. Brings a much needed freshness to the Pendo's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 390010 in new livery Passing Runcorn https://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2017/September-2017/i-fMkfFn5/Ahttps://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains-2017/September-2017/i-2gcdXFv/A Markhttps://mark5812.smugmug.com Not an improvement on the original in my humble opinion. The original is understated, this one is arty farty! Davey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesg Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Does this plain white livery remind anyone else of the ISS or other space hardware? I quite like the similar white testing livery on some of the new 800s at the moment but it's going to show up the dirt if they aren't washed regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold phil_sutters Posted September 14, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) DfT grey strikes again! But then, if your paymaster was telling you they wanted grey, youd do it. We now have: - Virgin West Coast Class 390 - Northern - South Western Railway - Great Northern/Thameslink - IET 800001-036 (to be vinyled GWR Green). It is not off-white, but very much grey at the DfT - some grey spark thought if the entire fleet is painted in a base all over grey, the individual TOCs can put on their branding and save a fortune.... of course, being a grey spark, they have not realised it is difficult to sell a grey dull railway to car and air users... Luckily, Virgin Trains East Coast shall have their own Virgin branding to the Class 800/801s - 800101 is only a celebration livery....DfT grey with a little red. All we can agree, the pendolinos, as the VTWC is a management contract, are losing their smart livery instead for DfT grey, yay! Aren't we forgetting who had whitish trains before anyone else (I think) & also c2c. The Stansted Express used to have a apple green stripe, but that now seems to have succumbed to the white/grey regime. Edited September 14, 2017 by phil_sutters 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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