RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted November 1, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2011 Can this thread be split into one for Blue Pullman and one for class 76 limited edition? These are two separate projects and unfortunately have got intermingled here for some reason. Edit to remove duplication Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Y Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 Well Olivias BP is a dead'un so the topic can remain for the 76. I did consider re-titling it but then people wouldn't be able to reference the early part of the saga. There are early posts that refer to both so it would be an unproductive task to untangle it I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Colin_McLeod Posted November 1, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2011 That makes sense Andy. Also I was confusing this title with the Bachmann Blue Pullman threads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 1, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2011 So far no one has mentioned here After the EM1, it's hardly surprising? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
303013 Posted November 2, 2011 Share Posted November 2, 2011 E26002 Aurora certainly did appear in electric blue. Just found a couple of pics at Sheffield Victoria, without SYP in 1964 & with SYP in 1965. The model I saw was of it in the light blue, complete with the lining (IIRC), but the model I have is in the later and darker early version, i.e. the faintly mythical Chromatic Blue, complete with a light grey roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Garry D100 Posted November 6, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2011 Hi, I seem to remember these locos when I used to spot at Manchester Piccadilly as a kid in the late 70's and early 80's. Think they were on the far platforms along with the 506 Units (wish they were available in 4mm). My question is, which version of the 76 is most likely to have run passenger services into Piccadilly, the version with MU cables on the cab or the one without. Or did it not matter. Sorry I don't know the details of the class, just a memory of them from childhood. Ive joined this thread late on, Ive skipped through the thread to see if there is an answer to my question but could not see, apologies if Ive missed it. Thanks. Garry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 6, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2011 Hi, I seem to remember these locos when I used to spot at Manchester Piccadilly as a kid in the late 70's and early 80's. Think they were on the far platforms along with the 506 Units (wish they were available in 4mm). My question is, which version of the 76 is most likely to have run passenger services into Piccadilly, the version with MU cables on the cab or the one without. Or did it not matter. Sorry I don't know the details of the class, just a memory of them from childhood. Ive joined this thread late on, Ive skipped through the thread to see if there is an answer to my question but could not see, apologies if Ive missed it. Thanks. Garry Without. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz101 Posted November 11, 2011 Share Posted November 11, 2011 Pre-production samples here: http://www.oliviastr.../pages/1743/EM1 A few observations: 1. Green one - as a namer, the BR totem should be on a separate panel in centre/top of loco side. OK to cover on one side (the one with more grills/windows) as in correct position and size, but other side is in wrong position and large (so difficult to correct). 2. Location holes for discs either side of lights are very prominent on the full yellow ends. 3. Centres of lights on the later-period locos should not be wholly clear, but have non-concentric fill-ins leaving only a small clear circle at the bottom (lower three lights) or top (light between windscreens). 4. Very bottom edge of front, i.e. under the lip/shelf, on Blue FYE versions should be blue, not yellow (and also probably the upper edge of the lip too): 5. E26049 (and E26050)had different pattern of rain strips on cab roof to the standard ones shown on model: 6. Otherwise, looking great, especially lining on the black one! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 They all appear to have air brake pipes and possibly steam heat ones as well, wonder if there's only one chassis which could account for the lopsided look? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter749 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Pre-production samples here: http://www.oliviastr.../pages/1743/EM1 6. Otherwise, looking great, especially lining on the black one! The lining on the black one is ok but why does it have Air Brakes? Peter http://peter749.zenfolio.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter749 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Just found several photos of EM1s without MW equipment all i969 dated (in Eastern Electric by John Glover), can't vouch for the whole class though. Even at the end of their life not all locos had MU Cables Peter http://peter749.zenfolio.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted November 12, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2011 Mr Olivia, hold a piece of kitchen foil or white paper in front of the train to bounce light back at the model, then we can see how good it is. ..or my cheapskate method, a 'foil fresh' crisp packet turned inside out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter749 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 E26002 Aurora certainly did appear in electric blue. Just found a couple of pics at Sheffield Victoria, without SYP in 1964 & with SYP in 1965. Did not realise E26002 was named Peter http://peter749.zenfolio.com/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium mirreles31 Posted November 12, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2011 Did not realise E26002 was named Peter http://peter749.zenfolio.com/ Hi Peter, don't know what I was on that day doh! E27002 of course . Phil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter749 Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 http://www.oliviastrains.com/userfiles/image/November_2011/76/76022_2.jpg What are the black marks either side of the lights? No sign of them on the real thing Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted November 12, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 12, 2011 http://www.oliviastr.../76/76022_2.jpg What are the black marks either side of the lights? No sign of them on the real thing http://www.flickr.co...pool-943903@N23 Peter They look like they're for fixing the 'headcode' disks, they do appear on the flickr photo, but not so obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian daniels Posted November 12, 2011 Share Posted November 12, 2011 Assume the holes either side of the lights are for the red discs to fit in. Sits a bit on the Pi** doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave flint Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 Sits a bit on the Pi** doesn't it? Is it too hard to put them on a bit of track as well ?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted November 14, 2011 Share Posted November 14, 2011 I'm very taken with them - despite the usual grumbles - but it mystifies me why all the blue examples come with cream roofs. Not exactly how I remember them - a banger blue version with a plain grotty roof would surely sell better than any 'special'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 15, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2011 Difficult to tell the overall quality of the finish with such poorly lit images. Mr Olivia, hold a piece of kitchen foil or white paper in front of the train to bounce light back at the model, then we can see how good it is. Or PM me and I'll come and do them for you, I'm close enuff. http://www.oliviastr.../76/26020_3.jpg Nothing joining the bogies together either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted November 15, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2011 for £160 a pop these aren't giving me the horn the way the Dapol class 22 does. Me neither. Oh well, on with developing the etched kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 15, 2011 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 15, 2011 for £160 a pop these aren't giving me the horn the way the Dapol class 22 does. Too much information! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted November 15, 2011 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2011 Too much information! The things that turn some people on !!! Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 Difficult to tell the overall quality of the finish with such poorly lit images. Mr Olivia, hold a piece of kitchen foil or white paper in front of the train to bounce light back at the model, then we can see how good it is. Or PM me and I'll come and do them for you, I'm close enuff. http://www.oliviastr.../76/26020_3.jpg Re the photograph, why do we have such a big gap between the bogies, the real ones are tapered but in the model they are flat. Body looks OK but bogie sideframes too short. Sorry but the underneath of a Bo+Bo is 'All Bogie' not Bogie + Space + Bogie. Charlie P. Sadly I offered them the drawings way back, thats LNER Doncaster drawings!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted November 15, 2011 Share Posted November 15, 2011 I'm very taken with them - despite the usual grumbles - but it mystifies me why all the blue examples come with cream roofs. Not exactly how I remember them - a banger blue version with a plain grotty roof would surely sell better than any 'special'? All roofs were Cream/Buff colour just most of them were VERY dirty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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