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Hello Ron,

 

the base boards are really coming together, are you going to fix them all together permanently? Or have some that can be removed?

 

OzzyO.

With the exception of the first baseboard build, all the remaining baseboards will be permanently fixed together -

 

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The first baseboard is detachable and movable to enable access to the central areas of the layout, which would be over 1 metre from any side

 

 

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I look at this thread and wonder why I was so reluctant to build a canopy for my L&Y branch station! Truly inspiring and in a class of its own!

 

Bill

Hi, Bill

 

If you don't try you'll never know - a layout deserves a little something extra from the modeller

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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As Ron says if you want something that's different you will have to build it for yourself. I may only build locos but I do like to get them as close to any photos that I have of them, the work that Ron has done on his layout is just jaw dropping. I can't wait to see how he goes about all the rest of it!

 

Lets just remember that some of us are modellers, and some just want it out of the box. You will never get something like this out of the box. All you have to add is time, maybe a lot of time.

 

Think about Lime Street station all etched, as well. There are a few more that I could think of.

 

Sorry Ron, It's been M.R.C. night.

 

OzzyO.

 

PS. fantastic build.

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The completed baseboard, except for the section carrying the viaducts out to the garden -

 

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Following the cutting of the holes for cable runs, etc., the next task is to establish the ground levels for various structures, and fix plywood bases in position at the appropriate elevations

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Ron

 

I can't believe the speed at which you make progress once you start a job. I really need to review the way I go about things and stop thinking and start doing.

 

 

Given the methodical way in which you normally work have I missed something or is there a reason why the walls aren’t finished yet?

 

 

Chris

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Remember to paint the walls and floor next! If nothing else, it will keep the dust levels down.

 

Trust me, I'm the son of a builder.  :sungum:

Hi, Ian

 

The floor has already been painted, to seal the concrete and make it easier to clean up after the baseboards are completed. The walls will be painted with a damproof sealant once all the woodworking is completed, and the walls and floors have all been brushed  clear of dust and grit. Walls will then be lined with insulating foam boards

 

Ron

 

 

Ron

 

I can't believe the speed at which you make progress once you start a job. I really need to review the way I go about things and stop thinking and start doing.

 

Given the methodical way in which you normally work have I missed something or is there a reason why the walls aren’t finished yet?

 

Chris

Hi, Chris

 

I only have Sundays, Mondays and Fridays relatively free during the day to carry out the heavy work. Modelling is reserved for evenings when I am not chauffeuring SWMBO around to her singing groups and charity work. This will change once the baseboards and walls are finished

 

My reply to Ian above gives the general reasons for this outstanding work

 

Ron

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Not wishing to sound morbid, but this masterpiece will probably outlive you or you may have to move.

 

Has thought (and your engineering head has probably done so) been given to how this might be tastefully dismantled should the need arise beyond the detachable goods warehouse?

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Not wishing to sound morbid, but this masterpiece will probably outlive you or you may have to move.

 

Has thought (and your engineering head has probably done so) been given to how this might be tastefully dismantled should the need arise beyond the detachable goods warehouse?

 

Most 'Layouts of a Lifetime' last beyond the lifetime of the builder

 

The only way that this could be achieved is by removing the secondary plywood bases upon which the actual structures and trackwork are being built - the main baseboards could not be removed successfully

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Found a couple hours free this afternoon. Started on the secondary plywood bases for the actual models and trackwork

 

This first area has a finished surface 84mm above datum, and is the ground level for the Great Northern Goods Warehouse and Goods Yard -

 

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The plywood is recycled from all the packing cases used for transporting the models from the UK 3 years ago

 

 

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Hello Ron,

Yesterday evening I was diverted to this thread by Physicsman who specialises in the Settle Carlisle route in one of his discussions. The result is I have spent all day today looking through the fifty odd pages of quite the most fascinating modelling I have ever seen. It is just superb, all the superlatives I can think of hardly do justice to this achievement, you should be immensely proud of it. I am now hooked on your thread and await the day when you can assemble the parts into what promises to be an amazing whole [not hole!]. To assemble all these intricate lattice structures tells me you must have an infinite amount of patience not to allow it to become a chore when you have to repeat so many assemblies so many times.

 

Wonderful! Just reading and looking at it has made my day, thankyou Ron for sharing your work with us all.

 

Edward

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Hello Ron,

Yesterday evening I was diverted to this thread by Physicsman who specialises in the Settle Carlisle route in one of his discussions. The result is I have spent all day today looking through the fifty odd pages of quite the most fascinating modelling I have ever seen. It is just superb, all the superlatives I can think of hardly do justice to this achievement, you should be immensely proud of it. I am now hooked on your thread and await the day when you can assemble the parts into what promises to be an amazing whole [not hole!]. To assemble all these intricate lattice structures tells me you must have an infinite amount of patience not to allow it to become a chore when you have to repeat so many assemblies so many times.

 

Wonderful! Just reading and looking at it has made my day, thankyou Ron for sharing your work with us all.

 

Edward

Hi, Edward

 

Thank you for your much appreciated comments, and especially for having the time and patience to read the whole of this thread today

 

Glad you enjoyed it

 

Patience is a necessary requirement for a modeller

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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Ron

 

I too followed this from the same source. It has taken me a bit longer to read than it did Edward but I got there eventually.

 

The time and patience that you have put into this project is amazing and I also can't wait to see it gell together into a fantastic layout. You should be immensely proud of your achievements to date and for the patience you have shown. I for one will be following the progress with great interest.

 

Many thanks for sharing this with us.

 

Duncan

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Hi Ron - what is the finished level of the track above concrete?

 

Also, getting onto the subject of patience - I have learnt three things when modelling: humility (other people are simply better at some things than I can achieve), patience (rushing into anything is a recipe for disaster) and respect (for those with more knowledge, equipment or skills than I have).

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Hi Ron - what is the finished level of the track above concrete?

 

Also, getting onto the subject of patience - I have learnt three things when modelling: humility (other people are simply better at some things than I can achieve), patience (rushing into anything is a recipe for disaster) and respect (for those with more knowledge, equipment or skills than I have).

Hi, Ian

 

The trackwork in the GNR low level goods yard is 1188mm affl, and 1255mm affl for high level goods yard

 

The trackwork in the Train Shed and over the viaducts varies, starting at 1280mm affl and rising to 1299mm affl

 

Cheers

 

Ron

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Hello Ron,

 

sorry it may just be me but I would have though that the supports for the first floor of the warehouse would have been underneath the supports for the second floor. It's just that they look wrong off set to the side ( I'm talking about from the left 2, 3 & 4 ) it may be right but it just looks wrong.

 

OzzyO.

 

PS. nice to see you back.   

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