RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 2, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 2, 2015 After far too long not really getting much done due to exhibitions and other stuff, tonight I started a little project that I sort of stumbled upon a couple of weeks ago, I picked up a Hornby (mid eighties?) NE Refrigerator van for a few quid from the club sales stand at Shipley, the body is a fairly accurate representation of an NER diagram F10 refrigerator van. The chassis was a generic Hornby plastic lump (some later models had a better representation) that was soon got rid of and I've started on building a new one from plasticard and bits from my wagon kit spares box. The push fit roof has had been butchered to fit completely inside the body and a new 'Venetian Blind' roof added to the top of this, handrails and ice box coveres need adding. 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2015 A few more bits stuck on, U/frame bits from 51L, D&S and unidentified bits! Ice box coveres made from 20 and 10 thou plastic and twisted wire retaining chains added, a handrail is still required for the other end. The holes in the ends where the plastic ladder was fitted have been filled and need cleaning up before the new brass ones are added. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 Graeme King did a few of these afew years ago... in the 1930s some had their ice boxes removed and were used for fish - there's a picture in Tatlow of one branded for both Fish and Meat at the same time. Yum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 3, 2015 Graeme King did a few of these afew years ago... in the 1930s some had their ice boxes removed and were used for fish - there's a picture in Tatlow of one branded for both Fish and Meat at the same time. Yum. I've come across that one, 'Surf and Turf' delivered in one go? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 4, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 4, 2015 Pretty much there now, it really was strange painting it white, still needs another coat though. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougN Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Paul that looks as good as a 51L kit! I must keep an eye out for them at swap meets. No doubt it will roll so easily without the weight of White metal! It is the one issue I think I will have as the Hoppers I have to build and a number of my other pieces of rolling stock are White metal the weight could be a factor. This way I could gain a nice train of Vans which are NER and don't weigh all that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The easiest ones to find are 'Thomas the Tank Engine' circus vans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 5, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2015 Paul that looks as good as a 51L kit! I must keep an eye out for them at swap meets. No doubt it will roll so easily without the weight of White metal! It is the one issue I think I will have as the Hoppers I have to build and a number of my other pieces of rolling stock are White metal the weight could be a factor. This way I could gain a nice train of Vans which are NER and don't weigh all that much. It rolls quite well, there's a rather large piece of lead inside to bring it up to somewhere near the weight of a whitemetal one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 5, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 5, 2015 Still a bit to do, tidying up the paint mainly and that NER is way too small! but this is something like how I want it to look. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Have you seen this, Mr G? Loads of good dirty hopper action after getting on for a minute and some good detail right at the end. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 6, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2015 Thanks Jonathan, that's a brilliant clip, probably the earliest film of a P or P1. Any thoughts as to where it is? Must be Co. Durham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Durham or Northumberland, but I can't be any more accurate than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Never mind the loco, that could have been me grandpa, the one with the flat cap!!! The houses look familiar - somewhere around Blyth but could be anywhere in the North East. Fiona was laughing at what she calls the 'eckythump caps' and the fact there is a photo of me dad wearing one sitting on his pre-war Royal Enfield motor bike, it would have kept his shoulders dry. And yes I know 'eckythump' is Yorkshire but she's a Glasgow lass. Dave Franks Apologises to 'The Goodies' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 6, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 6, 2015 Never mind the loco, that could have been me grandpa, the one with the flat cap!!! The houses look familiar - somewhere around Blyth but could be anywhere in the North East. Fiona was laughing at what she calls the 'eckythump caps' and the fact there is a photo of me dad wearing one sitting on his pre-war Royal Enfield motor bike, it would have kept his shoulders dry. And yes I know 'eckythump' is Yorkshire but she's a Glasgow lass. Dave Franks Apologises to 'The Goodies' Oi! Eckythump is Lancashire... (but funny all the same) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Hey up, many apologies. Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 8, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 8, 2015 Busy with a couple more wagons. For a while I've been looking for a Parkside BR 5 plank open (Diagram 1/044) for Greyscroft, but could only find the kit for the sheet rail version until a couple of weeks ago at the Halifax show I was discussing this problem with 'Wagonbasher' while rummaging through some kits we decided that the non sheet rail version could easily be built from it, so here it is, the holes in the end filled, 'LMS' buffers, replacement door bangs from brass, brass tie bars and some vac pipes. Next up is a GWR O11 open, a Parkside kit. The bang plates on the door were vertical strips and these have been removed and replaced with small round ones to represent this one in original condition. I was wanting to replace the buffers but the whitemetal ones I have aren't as good as the plastic ones! they did need some dimples filling in though. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 10, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2015 I've got the lettering on the GWR open this morning, it's gone quite well but the tare weight has had to be cut down a bit, the transfers (Pressfix) are just a bit too big to fit so the '2' has had to be dropped! A question for the GWR modellers out there, in this pre-grouping livery (25" letters) would the wagon have the number on the ends as well as the sides? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted October 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2015 There's a photo of a 4 plank with 25" lettering in A Pictorial Record of GW Wagons (on loan from the library of Johnny Gringo) which has end numbers, so I think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 10, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 10, 2015 Thanks Mark, I'm assuming it's on the bottom plank and centre? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted October 10, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 10, 2015 Its on the second plank, between the stanchions, which is the same as the earlier cast plates, I think. From what I can tell from a small number of photos it moved to the bottom plank with the 16" 1922 livery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 16, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 16, 2015 Now got the numbers on the ends, I wasn't sure if it would look right immediately below the sheet rail but it looks ok. As a bit of North Eastern relief and as a sort of topic reset I have been given a few NER wagons, the first is a C9 open, the first job was to modify the brakes as shoes were put on both sides where it should be on one side only, I've also reversed one of the brake levers. There is also a V1 brakevan (and a few P7 hoppers) and as it has been fitted with sidecotes I decided that It would make an earlier NER version of the Rosedale van, 57916, that I already built, then I realised it was numbered as that already, even though it's not finished (needs handrails) and painted the wrong colour. I've moved the brake shoes out, regauged it to EM and started to add handrails tonight. 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 17, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 17, 2015 The brakevan is coming on well, handrails and new chimney added and a couple of coats of paint in the earlier NER livery of brown and red, although I think the headstocks and buffers should be brown. Sorry about the crap photo, good camera not to hand. 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2015 Slight problem with the brakevan, I read the numbers in the book wrong, thinking it had side duckets added in 1907 but looking again they were added in 1911, the period I was aiming at is 1908/9 so this one will become another van for future use and I'll build another 'as built' as 57916 in brown and red. So I've put wagons aside for a while and started on my next loco. Any guesses to what it will be? (the front is to the right) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durham light infantry Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Slight problem with the brakevan, I read the numbers in the book wrong, thinking it had side duckets added in 1907 but looking again they were added in 1911, the period I was aiming at is 1908/9 so this one will become another van for future use and I'll build another 'as built' as 57916 in brown and red. So I've put wagons aside for a while and started on my next loco. Any guesses to what it will be? (the front is to the right) IMGP8792-001.JPG IMGP8793-001.JPG IMGP8795-001.JPG 964? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted October 22, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted October 22, 2015 964? No, there's another 6 wheels to go with those 6. (yes I know there's only three at the moment) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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