Ouroborus

I was a 'victim' of the 17 issues and am aware of the B-G problems. That said, Heljan can also produce some real stunners. The recent batch of 07 shunters can crawl at an almost imperceptible pace. We'll see. I think I'm odd that I prefer the Heljan tubby duffs - that extra width gives them a real presence.

You might want a look here : http://ecoscab.at.ua/ They also have an active facebook page I'm afraid i can't help you on worth - my ECoS is only a month old and i've yet to really get into it.

There is also EcosCab for Android.

Sorted.

According to the release, the tools were not good enough for a re-release, so they chose to build on their work on the o guage version. Which makes you think about some of their other o guage models. As to its success, I'll guess we'll get some idea with how the Hattons 66 sells Vs the Bachmann model

Just released on Facebook. All new 0o gauge version! https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2528757773853740&id=178273575568850

Get the ECoS. If you're a true model railway enthusiast, it's not worth it. If you like having a bit of fun, it'll put a smile on your face. Programming the toggle to to Hi-Lo horn sounds never fails to make me smile

Mr Jones can believe what he likes (and it seems he does), but the way some of the banks are issuing s75 refunds suggest your man on the omnibus should be viewing the payments as deposits/part payment

The only problem with buying from Derails is the sausage roll shop across the road. Bloody hell, they're good.

I came to think this some time ago. It resolved the odd issue of the CAD images being marked with "Free version". I came to the view that someone else had done the design and he inspected it using a freeware viewer. Stationmaster's assessment of the red flags is very true, but he misses one red flag out - reading some of the Dapol/Kernow threads and there is a very familiar tale of 'jam tomorrow', little of which ever happened. Wise after the event perhaps, but certainly a foretaste of what was to come. I suspect there is still more to come with this as well

I thought the DB 92 was particularly striking. Not something I'd considered previously

Try a Facebook search. It was the other night when I saw the post of a retailer who'd renumbered and renamed several tpe 68's and had them for sale. Can't remember who or how much, but certainly sub £150

I find it amusing to see people getting wound up by all ifs and buts and wild speculation about this. I appreciate some have lost money, some will have lost three figure amounts. I've yet to read of anyone losing more than this. Keep in mind that its a toy train. Right now, across the UK, people will be preparing to go to the hospitals and clinics such as the one i work in to be told the most devastating news possible. All the plans that they had for the future are about to come crashing in. So lets keep things in perspective

https://djmodels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/DJModels-Ltd-End-of-Year-thoughts-2018.pdf Flip through to the final page "the future", 2nd para, to read an incredibly accurate prediction

Apparently he is due to send his CV out in "the next few days"

He has been in a similar position before with N-thusiast and he got it all back together then, so maybe he can do it again, although I guess that any investors in MK3 will be very wary. Whatever way he goes, I hope he takes a hard luck at how this panned out from start to finish. Maybe running your own business just isn't for him

I'm guessing the first asset to be sold off was his spell checker

I honestly don't know Truffy. The whole thing seems a mess. When he was doing his refunds over the PayPal debacle, some got refunds, some didn't on what seemed an arbitrary basis, DJM saying the money had been spent. I'm also a little mindful of some of the statements he made here and elsewhere that your money may be at risk. But, of course the flip side for the consumer may be to argue that the t&c were so bloody confusing that they were impossible to understand and without this certainty, they handed their money over in good faith a la other crowd funding models or pre-payment model. I'm guessing people may get wildly different responses from their CC companies anyway and if any of the CC companies choose to take a closer look at what was for sale, it just gets murkier. What a mess.

Interesting, but not surprised that they try to brush you off. I think sticking to the claim that you were paying for a complete model is key. The slight concern I have is that in some comments from DJM, I got the opinion that the staged payments paid for stages. Perhaps keeping this description from correspondence with the CC company is wise

You never know, it may be that some form of Phoenix rises from these ashes. The money spent by forum members may have gone, but what it paid for remains, has some value and may emerge in time. I think it was around this time last year that he lost his father; a pretty crappy 12 months by anyone's measurement.

Is it sad? This appears to be the first dealer network model for which there is discounting going on. The competition seems to be driving down the price (much like Bachmann's 66).

Haha. Brilliant spot. Have a look at the Northern Belle 57 they have planned!

The RRP on the R3697 is £240, for which you get three coaches and a loco. R4898 gets you three similar coaches in a pack for £105. The £135 difference would seem to be for the loco, 57601 Windsor Castle. Now i'm no expert on 57's, but i thought that 601 was quite a bit different in appearance to its Class 47 predecessor and also that the 57 is not a loco in the Hornby range. I guess this could be a mistake and they are intending on the loco being a 47 in the named Northern Belle livery, but it would be a hell of a typo. £135 seems a lot for a model which looks very different to the loco on which its based (i'm aware of the 66 shortcomings), or are Hornby bringing out a new model?

I'm wondering if this is Hornby's new strategy as well. To be gone with the hi-spec models and keep the cost down with lower spec, less accurate versions, at less cost. Plus the roll out of stuff from their Bach catalogue. What price a warmed over 91 in the coming months to go with their warmed over 66's, 92's and 156's.

Apologies, you are indeed correct. That said, the eBay version still seems a massively lower quality thn DJMs