Porcy Mane

Ave a good one.

Ho, ho,ho. Wish I'd thought of that.

Froth on the Tyne? Guinness Road tankers on their associated wagons and an Ale van for Park Royal. Got to be! Just left the Guinness warehouse about half a mile away.

Bit like one of those auto answer systems! "You are moving forward in the queue". "You only have another 3months (?) too wait ".

Oh no. A working slip coach from Dublin. Summik else to budget for.

Unless somone has found a simpler way; I found it was body off, disconnect the JST's, remove pcb and pop off the bogie tower retainer to allow the bogie to drop away. First you need to remove the two screws below the bogie that partly retain the cosmetic outer frame, then you need to get at the top of the bogie to lever the bogie clips at the front and rear ends over and away from the bottom of the metal gear tower. You might be able to straighten the pick ups without removing the Cosmetic part of the bogie. See here: SLW at top, Bachmann at bottom here showing access to the pick ups without removing the cosmetic bits.

Durham Wharfe. For taking coal into the Bottle works. No Surprise that Robert Candlish of the Charlton Bottle Works, started of with a bottle works at Seaham Harbour.

Quite prototypical then.

So Hattons looks to be in the dark, very much the same as everybody else. I'd wager it has the same 4 pin JST connector between loco & tender with two wires for pick up two for motor. Pick up on all loco & tender wheels via pogos. As this loco has been coming for a number of years Hornby has probably stuck with the 8 pin NEM 652 socket due to space limitations within the tender body. It would be nice to think Hornby has applied a bit of lateral thinking to utilise a Next 18 socket (or even better a plux 22) along with a decent size speaker housing but taking into account the length of time since it left the drawing board I think we'll be lumbered with the 8 Pin. Easy enough to convert though.

So should I be keeping an eye out for yet another announcement of a delay to the imminent spring arrival of the 2MT? Maybe someone was so desperate for one, they took matters into their own hands? Above said totally in jest. 😶 Hoping this problem doesn't impact on Hornby too much.

Four tabs centred about 6mm from the outer ends of the doors. Prise the body out about1mm ( I used a no. 17 blade) on one side and it should flop out. You can see the position of the tabs by looking through the open doors.

The image I'm referring to, the B786873 door open image that was in the 1962 MR and also on the info sheet supplied with the model, credited to "CL collection". It appears on the Rapido UK website, Ferry van page annotated, "Courtesy of Paul Bartlett". Scroll down from this link. https://rapidotrains.co.uk/br-dia-1-277-vix-ferry-van/

Good to see someone else keeping an immaculately tidy work area. Man out of my own heart. P

I did say, "I think". Hopefully that implied I wasn't sure. Thanks for the correction. That's the one. The same image that was published in Oct. 62 "Modern Railways". The identical image also appears on the promotional literature that came in the box with my Rapido van. On that sheet the photo is credited to Chris Leighs Collection.

There is. There was a series of officials taken of B786873 when new illustrating various views and with the door both open and closed. They shew that the XP branding was the standard BR size of the time and tare weight was also applied to the bottom of the extreme right hand body panel. One of the series, door open, is printed on the info sheet that is supplied with the wagon. I think it's also on Mr Bartletts website. If I remember correctly a door closed image from the set appeared earlier in the thread (scanned from Transport Age?) but disappeared during the site crash. They also show that when new the grab handles and door locking bar was painted black. P

To 1.6 mm Mike, but where's the problem? Easy to pull the wheels out for you EM'ers but I suspect you may have more of an issue with the flanges hitting the brake blocks. I'd have thought you'd have been more bothered about the door latch remaining with the door when it's slid open rather than remaining with the fixed body. 😛

My preferred option is to turn down the original Rapido 3 hole wheel as I think they capture the look of the prototype rather well. (I photographed some a couple of months ago). Having re- checked Colin's Warship wheels, it looks like they utilise his standard 12.6 mm tyre. At the point were the root of the flange meets the 1:20 coning angle, I measured the diameter at 12.68 mm. Same place on the Rapido is 13.14 mm. I suspect after thinning the Rapido wheels to 1.8 mm and turning the flange down with the form tool there will still be a clash with the brake blocks. I also have my suspicions that some form of springing or compensation my be needed for P4. The wagon sits perfectly on a plate of glass with all four warship wheels sharing the load but when running on my "wibbly~wobbly" test track, which has extreme dips and gradient changes, one wheel will lift sufficiently for the P4 flange to clear the railhead (See Phot). Before I experiment with adding springing it will get a full workout through the single & double slops slips on a mates layout.

As a trial, I popped some 13mm Gibson Warship wheels (originally fitted to a Clayton 17) onto some pinpoints. Didn't think they would fit as the brake shoes are set for 00, delicate and well glued in along with all of their associated gubbins. Started to scrape the inside of the brake blocks to a taper for clearance but one block hanger bought it, so I just tried the wheels at the unmodified end. I had to remove a bit of a boss around the bearing holes but the wheels fit and are free to rotate without touching the brake blocks. 23mm between the inside faces of the W irons so looks like Mr. Bradwells springing plates could be an option. Not too sure about the freight red through (or whatever colour BR was calling it that week). Bauxite surely for mid 1962 and that oversize "XP"? Nothing like the official BR pics of B786873 when it was new. P

1000 mm, 3 hole disk. Hallelujah for the form tool.

What's this... my fingers are itching. A sure sign that the 1/227's have landed at Rapidoland UK H.Q. and will shortly be being introduced to the British Parcel & courier services distribution network. Do my digits deceive me or should I continue to trust my itch? P

Well I'm blowed! Was it really seven years ago? (Reminded me to upload the image). https://www.rmweb.co.uk/topic/62412-things-that-make-you/?do=findComment&comment=2398693

Is Mr. B's Hornby P4 wheels article innit? P

But there's no confirmation from Hornby and we have no knowledge of how many of this will be allocated to model shops. As Mike has said, "we don't know". Pre-orders don't necessarily translate into definite sales and there's a long wait until the estimated delivery time. As I said earlier, "Time will tell". It's a well known sales tactic to say something is selling well or sold out to hype sales. (I'm not saying Hornby has done this). The folk at Hornby obviously think it will be a money spinner for them. I look forward to seeing the photographs of the pre production samples. It's only a three channel sound chip. A one channel improvement on the earlier own brand Hornby decoder but still way less sophisticated than the more costly Zimo or ESU offerings.

Is there absolute confirmation of that? The Hornby website is ambiguous as ever just stating, "Unavailable". Then there will be the stock allocated to the tier one retailers. If it's delivered on time, it's at least over eighteen months away. Maybe just long enough for Bachmann to take a leaf out of Hornbys book and do a spoiler run. I note that Hornby have only used photographs of the prototype and not the model in all the pre-publicity. Maybe I should have responded earlier by asking, "Is there a need for an accurate DP2?"

But is there really a need for another DP1 ? Only time will tell.