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Now that SPV has closed I'm at a loss to know where to look for North American railway/railroad dvds in the UK Can anyone help?

The turntable in the top right was part of the LYR locomotive servicing at Victoria. It too was modified, but retained in different position during the 1929 resignalling. I would beware quoting British Railways Illustrated without verification elsewhere 😉 https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522809 https://maps.nls.uk/view/126522812 Top link c1915, bottom c1931

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Manchester,_South_Junction_and_Altrincham_Railway_RJD#/media/File%3AManchester_RJD_47.JPG I cannot find any indication of a GW goods station in Manchester either on OS maps or the RCH junction diagram for Manchester, please see the link above. Although I haven't been able to absolutely verify from WTT that the GW (my copies, which were photographs of TNA documents, disappeared during a change of computer) had its own goods facility in Manchester it seems to be a sensible assumption that it would use Liverpool Road. I have explained above why the LNW wanted to limit the GW's access to Manchester to Exchange rather than London Road. It was simply a question of capacity on the MSJ&A between Castleford Junction and London Road. Then, as now, it's an issue. Then, as now, the line couldn't be quadrupled. The LNWR was spending a fortune on by-passing Manchester for freight during the late 1850 to mid 1860s period and didn't want the GWR (or MS&L for that matter) intruding. It's all documented at TNA if you have the time. After Ordsal Lane was closed in 1904 the site was re-purposed as a wagon repair workshop but locomotive servicing facilities were built. These comprised of a turntable, pits and watering facilities. These remained well into the 1960s and could be viewed as trains passed by. The locomotive servicing facilities at Exchange were removed during the changes caused by the Deal St to Victoria signalling/track remodeling work of 1929. There is a lovely photo of a GWR 2-4-0 on this turntable taken before WW1, but I don't know of a photo an LNWR locomotive on it.

Yes it did close as an engine shed in 1904, but the servicing facilities stayed in use well into the 1960s when it closed completely. I wouldn't care to say that the GW locos didn't use Patricroft after 1904 but all the photos I've seen are of them at Ordsall Lane even those taken after 1904.

The GW and LNW jointly owned the Birkenhead Railway. As part of that arrangement the GW had running rights into Manchester from Chester. The GW wanted those rights to be to London Road but the LNW didn't want more traffic over the elevated section of the MSJ&AR in Central Manchester so they agreed that the rights would run to Exchange instead. GW locos were serviced at Ordsall Lane and GW trains to Manchester were withdrawn in 1941. The GW did have an office in Manchester but I can't remember where it was.

I know that DCC has many adherents who swear by it. To me it's just another layer of complication. With RC there's no power to the rails, so no cleaning of rails and tyres and none of the maintenance overhead underneath boards. The controllers are simpler and as power is 3.7v and the electronics are rated at 6 or 12v no chance of burning stuff out. I like the KISS principle, RC does that for me.

Yep pretty sure that the Deltang/Micron Rx will be OK because they're much the same size of the DCC stuff. The query was about being able to fit a charging socket and DPDT switch needed for RC because the model is so small. I'd be surprised if it's possible.

Just thinking about radio control! Does anyone who has one of these locos think there's enough space to fit a charging socket and a switch? 🤪

Can't be sure because I haven't taken mine apart. But I always use Singer oil because I can be sure that it too won't rot plastic 'Singer' Oil Lubricant for The Mechanical Parts of Appliances https://amzn.eu/d/c3gRyiL

GT85 Multi-purpose PTFE Spray Lubricant Penetrant and Water Displacer 400ml https://amzn.eu/d/iz4T9sL I use this in stead of WD40. For cleaning up grease I use IPA

WD40 is corrosive to plastic.

Sorry to be picky, but I'm pretty sure the Fallowfield loop closed in 1988. Stations closed in 1959 (?)

Doesn't Judith Edge do one or is it a different prototype https://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/catalogue/judithedge.html

The carbon monoxide from the diesel exhausts might just stop the engines working. In US there is at least one tunnel which has to be purged with fresh air after a train has passed

I think we're at cross purposes. I quoted the UK Model Shops site which hasn't been updated with detail of layouts and traders.

Sorry I was expecting a list of layouts and traders. Doesn't really matter to me I'll be attending, all being well, anyway.

https://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/event/23594-BasingstokeNorthHantsModelRailwaySociety_Exhibition Very much a fan of this show, is this due for an update?

They had also run out of food in the refreshment room. Not good.

If you do decide to spring these I'd be grateful if you published it here. I've long since given up on compensating/springing RTR wagons non of the available systems seem to work too well.

My only experience of fitting Shawplan windows was in one of my Bachmann 08 models. I used Crystal Clear as recommended by Shawplan. There are lots of videos on YouTube on the topic of fitting model aircraft canopies which might help

I have two of these sitting downstairs still in their boxes, so I'm taking a keen interest in the discussion re P4. From what I can see the choice is AGW 4800/1 Warship 3'-2" 2mm axle disc or 4002 3'-1.5" 3 hole disc wheels 2mm axle. So if you go for the Warship wheels you need to drill holes perhaps? It'll be interesting how the issue of compensation turns out.

No programs when I arrived at 1245 on Sunday. Tough! Ever so crowded, not comfortable with that especially when I was bounced almost off my feet by an aggressive Herbert who was just boring his way through. Not good. Decided to have a break while folk went home for Sunday lunch it was better afterwards. I have come to the conclusion that Warner's formula for exhibitions attracts huge crowds but the shows are a lot less friendly than local club shows. Don't know why, just seems that way. The layouts were fine, bit difficult to see quite often because of the crush and by the time that had subsided I was too tired to care much. Port Solway was wonderful as was Scout Green but the standard was very high generally. Traders, too much of the same really and seriously missing Eileen's and Wizard. Squires is not a good enough substitute for the former and the latter just leaves a hole generally. I bought a few bits, a cab ride dvd and a nameplate for a Ruston amongst them but then made my way home all 164 miles of it. I think Warner's have their virtues but they're for a younger generation than me and those who took their grandchildren deserve a medal but they might not want to do it again.

If you read through the threads below you'll get some ideas

Ok I suppose although this modeller will take note and not buy any further Rapido locomotives. Way back in the 1960s as a junior draughtsman I was taught that to reduce the component count was good because it reduced costs and to simplify design was essential because it too reduced costs. The designer of this product doesn't seem to be aware of these concepts but the the designers of Bachmann and Hornby products do with unintended beneficial knock on effects for modellers like me. Enough of that, I'll take your hint and move on. Regards

Oh dear, that's a blow. Perhaps I'll just put it to one side and let it accumulate eBay £. From hero to zero in 9 hours or so 😫