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Sorry to be picky, but I'm pretty sure the Fallowfield loop closed in 1988. Stations closed in 1959 (?)

Doesn't Judith Edge do one or is it a different prototype https://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/catalogue/judithedge.html

The carbon monoxide from the diesel exhausts might just stop the engines working. In US there is at least one tunnel which has to be purged with fresh air after a train has passed

I think we're at cross purposes. I quoted the UK Model Shops site which hasn't been updated with detail of layouts and traders.

Sorry I was expecting a list of layouts and traders. Doesn't really matter to me I'll be attending, all being well, anyway.

https://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/event/23594-BasingstokeNorthHantsModelRailwaySociety_Exhibition Very much a fan of this show, is this due for an update?

They had also run out of food in the refreshment room. Not good.

If you do decide to spring these I'd be grateful if you published it here. I've long since given up on compensating/springing RTR wagons non of the available systems seem to work too well.

My only experience of fitting Shawplan windows was in one of my Bachmann 08 models. I used Crystal Clear as recommended by Shawplan. There are lots of videos on YouTube on the topic of fitting model aircraft canopies which might help

I have two of these sitting downstairs still in their boxes, so I'm taking a keen interest in the discussion re P4. From what I can see the choice is AGW 4800/1 Warship 3'-2" 2mm axle disc or 4002 3'-1.5" 3 hole disc wheels 2mm axle. So if you go for the Warship wheels you need to drill holes perhaps? It'll be interesting how the issue of compensation turns out.

No programs when I arrived at 1245 on Sunday. Tough! Ever so crowded, not comfortable with that especially when I was bounced almost off my feet by an aggressive Herbert who was just boring his way through. Not good. Decided to have a break while folk went home for Sunday lunch it was better afterwards. I have come to the conclusion that Warner's formula for exhibitions attracts huge crowds but the shows are a lot less friendly than local club shows. Don't know why, just seems that way. The layouts were fine, bit difficult to see quite often because of the crush and by the time that had subsided I was too tired to care much. Port Solway was wonderful as was Scout Green but the standard was very high generally. Traders, too much of the same really and seriously missing Eileen's and Wizard. Squires is not a good enough substitute for the former and the latter just leaves a hole generally. I bought a few bits, a cab ride dvd and a nameplate for a Ruston amongst them but then made my way home all 164 miles of it. I think Warner's have their virtues but they're for a younger generation than me and those who took their grandchildren deserve a medal but they might not want to do it again.

If you read through the threads below you'll get some ideas

Ok I suppose although this modeller will take note and not buy any further Rapido locomotives. Way back in the 1960s as a junior draughtsman I was taught that to reduce the component count was good because it reduced costs and to simplify design was essential because it too reduced costs. The designer of this product doesn't seem to be aware of these concepts but the the designers of Bachmann and Hornby products do with unintended beneficial knock on effects for modellers like me. Enough of that, I'll take your hint and move on. Regards

Oh dear, that's a blow. Perhaps I'll just put it to one side and let it accumulate eBay £. From hero to zero in 9 hours or so 😫

Received mine this morning, ever so good, really pleased. I bit more research in the AGW catalogue shows that the wheels are 4844 3'8" 12 spoke I/L, and the wheelbase is 5' 9" + 5' 3" so rods could be 4M121 for the WD 2-8-0 although they might be a bit chunky and need a bit of filing to reduce their height. I note from an earlier post that Judith Edge could be persuaded to make the chassis of her complete kit available, what's not to like?

Most of the tests were to do with the overhead. It used to be a standing joke about how easy it was to bring it down! Never saw a Deltic in Manchester and anyway the production ones were too late for Styal line testing. Why would you put DE on a line to test the overhead? Doesn't make sense to me. I agree with others about the suitability of the Styal loop for high speed running. From personal experience the passenger would get jogged about even on a dmu suburban service.

Yesterday I received an email from Rails saying that mine had been posted. I really can't remember ordering one (which isn't the same as saying it isn't welcome). The money has gone out of my account and I note that AGW does appropriate wheels for P4. All of which is good; pleased.

There's a nice pub in that street.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Dragonfly#

Thinking about an EM/ P4 conversion, are the wheels actually powered by the coupling rods or are the rods cosmetic and the wheels powered by a gearbox?

I model in P4. I have found that I can't build wagon kits square enough for them to run unless they're compensated. RTR wagons are fine because they're square as bought and are a serious pita to compensate. I use 3 point compensation because it's simpler than springs and at least as good. Use MJT compensation units, they're better than the S4Soc ones. Mansplaining done.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if a number of railways cut back on their mileage. Many of them are far too long and are unnecessarily expensive to run. The average, non-railway enthusiast customer will be content with a 5 to 7 mile ride each way though it would help if there was something of interest at both ends of the line.

https://www.ukmodelshops.co.uk/event/24562-AstolatModelRailwayCircle_Exhibition

OK so Alan Gibson 4007 Lowmac wheels should do it providing the axles are 2mm diameter. Thanks for that most helpful.