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What's the timing on the LNER one?

Yes I haven't come across your postings on here before, but I recognised the name Longdrem from the magazine article in the Hornby Mag. Great article I really enjoyed it. Nice seeing a Scottish layout in print. I know the area roughly ,Saughton junction, although I'm a westerner over in Glasgow As well as top link Pacifics really like the NBR motive power

Does look good. I like the different level approach to factory sidings on far left. A lot of civil engineering required , but looks very interesting

Bright yellow vestibules if I remember correctly. And manky! I remember for a while they were on the 17.12 express to Ayr, taking over from the Mk2 airconditioned "night rider" stock that had a fill in turn to Ayr. Not an improvement!

I think Hornby have been charging more money for Southern locos because they know there is demand and they can get away with it! If there was a perceived lack of demand why wouldn't they produce something else instead? The reason that the M7 has been traditionally higher priced is because there are enough people willing to pay for it!

It always fascinates me that you nip into Lidl or Aldi for your grocery shopping and come out with a Deep Sea Divers suit or welding set , because it's on offer. To me this is part of the appeal of these shops, you never know what you will find! This looks like a good deal, I feel a visit coming on

The model barren wastelands of Scotland

Much to my surprise I actually quite like the coaches!

Don't know the man at all, but clearly with 11 pages he is much missed. Still on hearing he is unwell let me wish him a good recovery

I think the problem is that these aren't the £60-£70 models of only 2 or 3 years back that we would have accepted and corrected ourselves (I've never believed that was the correct course of action as it encourages complacency from manufacturers) .I was in Harburn Hobbies ,Edinburgh , yesterday. This loco was for sale at £129.95. For that I would expect issues such as wavy running plates to be sorted. I accept the point about not being able to make one to that standard myself , but it's irrelevant, this is not a hand produced model , it's a mass produced (as much as anything mass produced these days) that I would expect QC to have been applied to.

Both I'm afraid. Of course if you never get a model then QC is irrelevant! So Hornby do need to secure their supplier base . However they also need consistency across their 5 or 6 manufacturers. I suspect this is all more difficult than we think as if they reject whole batches of models the manufacturer may lose interest in Hornby and simply make for someone else. Which brings us back to the fact that really Hornby needs it's own factory to be in full control.

That ones quite pronounced. I think that would go back if it were me

To be honest I'm struggling to see issue with TMC one

Yes that's one of the unique aspects of this hobby . Faced with defective materials most people fix it. Compare this with buying a new digital cares, electronic equipment , where it's instantly returned! Strange behaviour. Which is why Hornby gets away with it. Awaiting feedback on new 4 VEP with interest to see if any lessons learned.

Cheers Coachmann. Yes agreed if you can pick the proper Gresleys up at £22 to £25 go for it. I haven't seen any up here though, but Glasgow isn't really well served with model Shops anymore. There is a Modelzone in WHSmiths but certainly never seen anything deeply discounted

You can buy the old Gresley teaks second hand at around £10 each and there is also the Railroad versions. Frankly they do the job for me rather than he hideously overpriced latest Hornby versions

Just watch out if buying, the big ones are pretty heavy! Best if you have two guys to lift it

I'm sure the Model Railway mags will pick up on this fault and report it, forcing Hornby to get it right in subsequent batches. Oh was that a pig I just saw fly past?

And if so , good on them. The King is dead......Long live the King!

I'm hoping Kernow go all the way North and a Trans-clyde 116 is on the agends. Circa 1979 would do me fine ta

There also Hornbys complete disrespect for people who have preordered their models, see the Exeter thread. Better chance getting one with DJM I think

I think you have to look and see what's due. The only thing I can see is a D11 which is shown in LNER black in this months Hornby magazine and a green one is due for Model Rail. Hope it's something better than a set of oil tankers. The last limited edition didn't exactly take my breath away!

Yes that is very nice. Good that youve gone for more modern dwellings too emphasizing time period of layout. Might need a bit of litter around though!

Well I tend to run mine in three eras now BR Transition, BR Blue and most recently I've had a reawakening of interest in the big 4. Sparked off by the P2,since then I've acquired a J39 and 2 J72s all second hand . So looking forward to my C1, it was a must have as I've always wanted one since I saw them in a Partwork in the 70s. Really handsome engines and promises to be something special. That said, at that price it will probably be one of a very few new loco purchases next year

The Hornby ones are also inaccurate despite being told before production, at a Perth show, that they were not correct. Another one where Simon Kohler seemingly listened but then nothing happened! As has been pointed out above the roof should be black, the Hornby one was Blue, in fact the whole Hornby model looked like it had been moulded in blue, really not a very accurate model at all. As with the Scotrail mk3s it just a shame we have the dead hand of Hornby with large quantities required to do special commissions. Good luck to C&M obviously Dapol are much more flexible!