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From the Forgotten Relics" website, although not listed there yet, as far as I can see: http://www.forgottenrelics.co.uk/index.html Video found via Twitter message. Hope of interest.

With regard to the last part, presumably it depends if you are limiting comments to a specific time period, and/or “type” of wagon? Aren’t the Heljan class A and B tanks models of the whole vehicles? I.e. the same prototype as the Airfix kit. I do not have any of these, as too modern for my interests. Class B thread on here: Class A thread on here: Same, I would assume for the more modern TTA tank wagons by Bachmann, and various more modern bogie tank wagons by various suppliers.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a “racking plate”?

I don’t know about era but I think maybe about the same as other liveries? Which I think is pre WW2? By the way, this more recent post from markw seems to suggest “Shell” on one side and “BP” on the other - the wagon number is the same on both vehicles, I.e. different names on different sides. markw also refers to a Shell Mex & BP version (singular).

RRP on Oxford Rail site is shown as £21.95. Illustrated with pictures of models on website are the above 6, in the same order: https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/oxford-rail/products/mobil-no64-12-ton-tank-wagon-or76tk2001 https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/oxford-rail/products/carless-naptha-no10-fuel-oil-tank-wagon-12-ton-or76tk2002 https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/oxford-rail/products/british-bitumen-colfixno-56-12-ton-tank-wagon-or76tk2003 https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/oxford-rail/products/benzol-and-by-products-no1000-12-ton-tank-wagon-or76tk2004 https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/oxford-rail/products/fisons-sulphuric-acid-no31-12-ton-tank-wagon-or76tk2005 https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/oxford-rail/products/grahams-golden-lager-no113-12-ton-tank-wagon-or76tk2006 Just as a graphic is: OR76TK2007. Oxford Rail PO Tank Wagon BP No 1061. https://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/collections/oxford-rail/products/po-tank-wagon-bp-no-1061-or76tk2007 Unfortunately they do not seem to group products by type of vehicle, or even wagons/coaches locos. Therefore hope these links are of assistance.

Hi. Found this picture when browsing this photo collection. A bit late in the day for your model, but thought it might be of some interest. https://devabob.zenfolio.com/p855931604/hE6748379#he6748379

You may be right, although not sure I want the limited MRJ page count diluted by an issue containing a multi page index. Regardless, I was just reflecting on current(?)/past Wild Swan practice.

I think that the MRJ publishers produce(d) indices as I’m sure I have seen occasional mentions of them in issues. I think I might even have some of the early ones! I did suggest some years ago supplying copies to subscribers as part of the subscription might be an idea, especially when you could subscribe for eight issues, having subscribed myself since the early years. Suffice to say suggestion not taken up! I’ve no idea to what depth the indexing went - reading some of the above comments has been educational! Further thought, would this topic not be better in this part of the forum: https://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/forum/17-other-magazines/ ? I very rarely look in this part so found this topic by chance. More MRJ readers etc. might be able to comment/advise if they were aware of this thread.

Is it wrong to wonder if the driver’s head could be made to rotate to face towards the direction of travel?! Or even do that but randomly look around?!

Hi. Thanks for your response. Very kind of you to put so much effort into it and I hope it hasn’t taken up too much of your modelling time! I have followed your thread for a while, and also Ben’s various ones. I think my query about whether the points had been painted was because it wasn’t very clear to me from your pictures that they had been, although it does seem clearer looking at them again. Perhaps it was the use of grey that threw me a bit, or that in the side on picture the grey was a bit reflective/shiny and therefore looked unpainted? I think I also misunderstood about the underlay approach for plain track or just not thought about it when seeing the pictures of the points. I.e. not appreciating that flexi track would still be flexible, and therefore there would be movement of rails. I probably just thought that plain track was made up into modular pieces that then don’t need further adjustment, but I can see that some small movements would be needed even if that was the case. Regardless, big relief about you not using orange “rust” colour! I understand the difficulties of interpreting colours from pictures. My point was probably more that rail sides, in this case, are generally not a distinctly different colour from the rest of the track, which is probably what jars with me when seeing layouts where an orange rust is used. Maybe I was also thrown by you not just painting all the track with “track colour”! If I recall correctly from my involvement in club layouts we had used Precision paints for painting track, mainly because it could be obtained in a bigger tin than Humbrol, although maybe also not that conscious that Humbrol did such a colour. Anyway, all quite a long time ago, and also when you have decided on a method/material it seems logical just to repeat that way/use the same material the next time. The ability to stand boards on their side sounds like it might make painting rail sides easier. Maybe you even just need to do the one, viewable side? I also vaguely recall that there was some sort of tool for doing this - a wheel which transferred the paint from a jar to the rail? Sorry to be vague but just seem to recall mention of it in magazine articles etc., never having actually used one. Perhaps ultimately you will end up weathering the laid track to make it even more realistic. Anyway more power to your elbow!

Hi. An interesting approach. I presume that the points were painted before you stuck them down and ballasted, based on your earlier posts about painting points and track? If so I wonder about the need to paint the rail sides? I had a look earlier in the thread and found this colour picture: Looks to me that the sides of the rails are essentially “of a piece” with the rest of the track. Painting rail sides an orange “rust“ colour seems to be one of those modelling “things”, where modellers copy other modellers, rather than look at the real thing! Alternatively, if you want to paint them in some way, why not do that as part of the other painting, when you can hold the point in your hand and therefore get at the rails easier? Even if you want to do it after ballasting the same applies. My experience of layout building (club ones, some while ago now) was to paint all the track “track colour” after laying but before ballasting. I suppose others could have thought that looked wrong as well! Hope these thoughts are of assistance. Regardless, keep going!

I seem to recall reading some explanation from Peco for the use of plastic packaging for a different Peco product/line on another thread on this forum. Seemed a reasonable justification at the time.

My version is rev 11, which I think this one is also? I downloaded mine on 12/08/14, so presumably it was still the latest published version at that time. I also have an earlier version downloaded in March 2011, so not just a one off. In same folder I also have copies of price lists from 2007 and 2010, if anyone wants a shock! In a similar vein, is anyone aware of a similar listing or online record of Hornby items, particularly the newer, accurate models?

Probably coincidental, Hawick ticket office window:

Thanks for the link to another useful Flickr site! I don’t recall seeing it before. In the same album this “P” numbered 16T mineral might be a bit of a rarity? Especially caught in colour and in detail. At a Thornhill power station, West Yorkshire, July 1966. Quite a few other shots in colour in this album where there are 16 tonners as a more incidental part of the picture.

Also a couple of views on page 1. Sorry to go off topic, but it would have been interesting to see the empty wagon reversing ramp in operation!

I seem to recall at one time there was a document available on the Bachmann website that was a “complete” listing of all OO models produced up until then. Was maybe about 10 years ago though? I assume it is OO stuff you are interested in?

Doh! Sorry.

Irrelevant, but picture taken at footbridge at south end of Carrick Knowe Avenue, Edinburgh. Essentially at Saughton Junction.

Click on the picture to go to the Flickr page, where date given!

Hi. Chanced on this picture this evening on Flickr which seems to include a different "take" on the container one you have linked to in your message above. Not sure of any assistance or relevance to you, but thought it worth providing the link, just in case! (I just happened to have looked through your thread earlier on Monday and reckoned this was the same subject).

£18.50 each quoted.

Good stuff. Needs a link to this thread in the “other layouts” bit though! Monthly updates, ala https://www.emgauge70s.co.uk , an aspiration?!

Interested in this thread and the parallel discussion about the V2 on the Wright writes thread, as it suggests 3D printing really is becoming something great. With regard to brittleness, I wonder if you saw the comments from Arun Sharma on the WW thread on Monday at 16.59 (last post on page 1877)? (Wish I could link it or quote it here, but not sure how!) They suggest that it would be better to use a 3D print as a master for a polyester resin casting as it would overcome the brittleness issue. It would also, presumably, reduce your time and effort input for producing individual 3D prints that I think you mentioned earlier in this thread. Perhaps there is some loss of detail or other disadvantage? I make these comments from the point of view of somebody reading both threads and with no knowledge of the specifics of these production methods, so apologies if I’ve missed something obvious or discussion that covers this. Anyway, more “power to your elbow” in your 3D adventures and investigations!

Sorry, just noticed your comment when I looked at recent activity, which I hadn’t done before so rather just diving in. Rather than think football is “pointless and totally unnecessary” why not be a bit more open minded and accept that others have different interests and point of view? A narrow viewpoint is why some people think an interest in model railways or in real railways etc. is “odd”, a mindset that seems to be changing recently. Personally I support a football team and am a railway modeller so your view is essentially a criticism of one of my interests. I don’t “get” the desire for McDonald’s but accept that others obviously have a craving for them and therefore they have a place. Sorry to go off topic but your negative view of football, and therefore of those who are interested in it (more than one or two!), couldn’t pass without comment. What about a bit of live and let live?!