Poor Old Bruce

1 - Prometheus was used for pantograph development so virtually any type of pantogrpah could be fitted. 2 - Prometheus was 'Laboratory 6' of the Research and Development Division. Test Car 6 was a totally different Mark 2 vehicle operated by the DM&EE. 3 - I appreciate that your project is well under way but cannot help wondering why you are using a BCK for the basis rather than a BSK as the real one did. Edit - I have now seen the other part of your blog and see that you are using a BSK. Sorry for going off at half cock. I take it you are aware of the observation windows at the inboard end of the pantograph well?

The last three A2s (60528/30/32) were allocated to Dundee and some at least were seen on the Aberdeen Glasgows.

You missed out (at least) 03, 20, 25, 27, 45 (how did you miss that one?) Baby Deltic, Production HST and the Electric Load Bank plus umpteen DMUs and a few steam engines (bearing in mind I haven't seen the place for nearly 12 years).

On the main photo, I can't help wondering why 'Carriage Side' is labelled "Brel Derby Locomotive Works", the site of which is off pic to the right.

Looks very like the arrangement I built into 'Northworthy' 30 years ago except I used/use plastic wagon loads instead of loose stuff (less spillage). Hang on a while John, Have I seen somewhere that someone (Bachmann?) are intending to do a ready-to-plant model of Butterley station which actually came from Whitwell IIRC. Edit 9 Jan 14 now that I have found it is actually Hornby intending to do Butterley station. Can you or John tell us the vernacular pronunciation of the name. Is the 'Wind' as in winding a clock or "A cold wind doth blow"? For a home layout you need access to the stone wagons for loading but I reckon you need more siding space for the stone wagons as a loco would bring in a tarin of empties and take away a train of loads so you need space for two trains. 'One Train Operation' aka 'OTO' Don.

Surely it's "Daffield" only to the posh folks what live on Broadway. The rest of us peasants still call it Duffield Good luck with the project. Edit p.s. Do you know that there is a real working sand quarry on Mercaston Lane?

Bear in mind folks that a boiler could be changed at any time and not just at heavy general overhauls, it was no big deal to do one in main works. Even a 3F had one in about 1962 IIRC but it didn't get a repaint. The 2013 Steam World calendar contains a photo of 92025 looking not long out of the paint shop in 1965. It didn't necessarily mean it had had a heavy general overhaul though, the Irwell Book of the 9Fs indicating it had had a 'Light Intermediate'. Even the visit to Crewe in 1960 is described as a 'Light Intermediate' with the note "Conversion to normal operating boiler." Coach, The corrosion of the pre-heaters was one of the main reasons for the rebuild and there are several mentions of retubing the pre-heaters and of 92028 recieving "specially treated pre-heater tubes". Irwell's book tells of 92024 visiting Crewe for a 'Heavy Intermediate' in 1958 saying that the pre-heater was blanked off and the exhaust chimney removed with "conversion to normal operating boiler" taking place at a 'Heavy Casual' repair in 1960. So at least that one ran for a time with the pre-heater in place but blanked off.

If you can find a copy of F.C.Hambleton's 'Locomotives Worth Modelling' (Model and Allied Publications 1977 - SBN 0 85242 5805) ther are four different side elevations of Spinners. Also one in Maskelyne's 'Locomotives I Have Known'.

As you say John we have been probably been round this particular thing before but we don't seem to have much more than hearsay to suggest that the rebuilt Crostis were "really only 8F in their final form". AFAIK all the rebuilds were marked as "9F" above the cabside numbers and they seemed to work turn and turn about with the other 9Fs e.g. I have seen photos of them on the Long Meg to Widnes anhydrite trains (how often did an 8F or WD show up on those trains - Tin hat ready!). The 1964 LM-W Freight Trains Loads Book just shows the 9F category to cover the "B.R. Std 92,000 series", there are no exclusions and there is no separate mention of the rebuilt Crostis - that's good enough for me - unless anyone can tell us differently.

I like the ingenuity but what Hornby Dublo wagons used that size of chassis? AFAIK HD used a 10ft wb / 17ft6in chassis since before the war.

I believe they were given a new diagram number, either 1/098 or 1/099.

Nice idea but surely a 'standard' Bagnall would sell better than a 'two-off'. There can't be that many folks modelling Par Harbour. Can there? (tin hat ready).

Or the Bachmann Junior 0-4-0ST (Percy-ish) chassis.

Yes if you have the space to store it/them for a few years but I buy my toys to play with, not because I will want to sell them until I have gone to the big sidings in the sky. How many would want to buy a box because it looked pretty and ditch the contents?

Who cares about the box as long as it protects the goodies (not the television ones) inside?

Go for it! As Brian McDermott has explained, the usual annual wish list doesn't cater for industrials. You could probably make a list of 100 of them! A 45 Ton job with a scale length jib please How about a Hudwell Clark 0-6-0ST in 4mm - the research has already been done. Alternatively any of the Hunslet 0-6-0STs (12", 15" or 16")? Midland 2F, Kirtley curved frame Goods, Johnson 0-4-4T?

Shouldn't the ex Horse Box be numbered in the DW15xxxx series?

Boiler pitched at 7ft 7in above rail level. Total wb 37ft 9.5in. Length over buffers 51ft 7.25in. Tender wb 6ft 6in + 6ft 6in.

Just in case nobody else has mentioned it, Dean Sidings do a Killin Pug body etc to convert Smokey Joe.

The Slater's kits are now with Coopercraft and some parts are available separately.

I believe a lot of the Fowler tenders which displaced the original 4F tenders came from withdrawn Austin 7s which was just after WW2 but photos are always useful.

Stewart, AFAIK the new Bachmann loco will represent the Midland Railway version with right-hand drive, beaded splashers and Johnson tender which became 43835 to 44014 (or thereabouts as the final MR batch changed from Beaded splashers to plain). The old Airfix model represents the LMS version with left-hand drive, plain splashers and Fowler tender which became 44207 to 44606 except a batch of ten RH drive locos around 44300 which were numbered out of build sequence and the ex S&DJR locos which were built to the MR pattern. If you want to update your old Airfix loco, you may wish to consider the current Hornby product which is loco drive.

As it is marked "COND", I would suggest the former. I doubt that anybody would mark it at a derailment site as the priority was to clear the line. As it is apparently next to a live railway line, where is it please Mark.

Barton-on-Humber in 1979

I've got a DVD of a railway journey through Scotland where the mid-Atlantic narrator starts by travelling from Burr-wick to Edinborough.