QuoitsPlayer Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 This is worth repeating from http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/50755-little-known-class-73-livery-1967/ E6018 Clapham Junction 7/9/1967 by Glevumblues, on Flickr And seen at Hither Green: http://wmbusphotos.com/Trains/class73/73112.html Sorry I know this isn't relevant but what on earth is the building on the bridge? and is it being rebuilt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) That is Clapham Junction A Signalbox. Embarrassingly, in about 1965, the structure suddenly started falling down. As it controlled rather a lot of trains in and out of Waterloo, this was regarded as a pity. Much red-faced action by the civil engineers, who should have been doing their surveys a little better, resulted in this extra framework, which remained until it was abolished under the WARS resignalling scheme about 1989. EDIT Here's a bit more about the failure of the structure. http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docsummary.php?docID=1085 Edited March 20, 2013 by Oldddudders 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoitsPlayer Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Many thanks Olddudders, that would make a very interesting model. Matt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Another couple of shots of the Class 73 at Saltley shown in the link in post #98, with some information: http://www.flickr.com/photos/65532931@N05/6005092741/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/67444577@N02/6905449975/ And another pair off their normal route: A Pair of ED's From Birmingham by D1059, on Flickr Edited March 20, 2013 by BR(S) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I thought that was the remains/frame of the wartime protective covering, which was too heavy for the supports, and was responsible for the collapse? I'd best check ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Some info on Clapham Junction signalboxes here: http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Clapham_Junction_A.html http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Clapham_Junction_B.html http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Clapham_Junction_C.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 That is Clapham Junction A Signalbox. Embarrassingly, in about 1965, the structure suddenly started falling down. As it controlled rather a lot of trains in and out of Waterloo, this was regarded as a pity. Much red-faced action by the civil engineers, who should have been doing their surveys a little better, resulted in this extra framework, which remained until it was abolished under the WARS resignalling scheme about 1989. EDIT Here's a bit more about the failure of the structure. http://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docsummary.php?docID=1085 Didn't it start to fall down in the middle of the morning peak? I remember it making the headlines of the national radio news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20, 2013 I thought that was the remains/frame of the wartime protective covering, which was too heavy for the supports, and was responsible for the collapse? I'd best check ... Apparently you are quite right - I'd never heard that bit. http://www.semgonline.com/location/signalboxes/sbclaphamjcn.html gives some details. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted March 20, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 20, 2013 Some info on Clapham Junction signalboxes here: http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Clapham_Junction_A.html http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Clapham_Junction_B.html http://www.wbsframe.mste.co.uk/public/Clapham_Junction_C.html Goodness! In the Clapham B link update are a couple of names I knew eons ago. Bryan Hymas was TO at London Bridge when it opened in '76, and I think Cyril Barnes might have been S&T New Works Manager. Great to find they are still punching! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 (edited) some good footage of the Merseyrail class 73's in action, smokey! Edited March 22, 2013 by Michael Delamar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold griffgriff Posted March 21, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 21, 2013 Many thanks Olddudders, that would make a very interesting model. Matt Not half as interesting as the track work, infrastructure, stock etc that would travail beneath it... late 80's just before closure would be a nice period to model it (oh alright then early to mid 60's might be better ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldlugger Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Will Dapol be producing both versions of the class 73; i.e. the JA and JB? Cheers Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted March 22, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 22, 2013 Will Dapol be producing both versions of the class 73; i.e. the JA and JB? Cheers Simon This has certainly been mentioned earlier in this thread. Have just been looking at the Dapol catalogue and on page 59 it states: "Dapol will model both JA and later type JB Class 73's from laser scans of actual locomotives" Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meld Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 The Question is, will the do they 'New' JC [ GBRf's 73/9 mkII's ] & JD's [ NR 73/x's ] as well? ( My letter classes btw !! ) Mike 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldlugger Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) I wonder how Dapol will reproduce the complex cable runs on the bogies of the JA? There are loads of them with very complex shapes and they need to be very fine indeed to fit them all in prototypically (speaking from experience building my own in P4). Edited March 22, 2013 by oldlugger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted March 22, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) The Question is, will the do they 'New' JC [ GBRf's 73/9 mkII's ] & JD's [ NR 73/x's ] as well? ( My letter classes btw !! ) Mike And if they don't, I'm sure someone will............................... Cheers, Mick Edited March 22, 2013 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony M Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Any update on this model? xTx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 My understanding is that it's still at the CAD stage at the moment. The latest ones were posted in entry #67 and DapolDave will no doubt be along with some revised ones at some point for further RMweb input. Definitely a while until one turns up at Bromley North! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Nice Class 73 picture here, not just for the locos (in BR blue with E prefixed numbers) but for all the detail as well, plus a Class 71: Locos at Ashford (Kent) in 1970 by Tom Burnham, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tetsudofan Posted April 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 19, 2013 Interesting picture - the locos must be sitting close where the high-speed through lines are now situated..... Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Im sure it will be worth the wait. Never a good idea to rush a model out. Bound to be a big hit for Dapol. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Some great Class 73 clag from this 2012 video. Watch out for the sparks from the ex-Gatwick Express driving trailers as well. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaGrange Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Wonder will the Bachmann MK2F's be released around the same time (whenever it is, will be worth it) so a decent Gatwick Express rake can be made up 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Any progress report yet Dave? I fancy a couple in 1970's condition. One question though, and I suspect that has not been on your remit, how easy will it be for conversion to EM or P4? (how about an EM/P4 conversion pack as an after market option? perhaps through the two societies) Also for those of us who don't want a hook and bar coupling or an empty NEM Pocket is there going to be provision for a blanking plate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogmatix Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Is a BR green version planned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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