Carflat from N Gauge Society

[Revolution Ben]

Hello all,

 

A nice Xmas gift from Farish:  final approved CADs.  The model is now heading for the tool shop.

 

This is the dual-braked  Motorail version in BR blue with the distinctive side panels and in this case original BR1 bogies:

 

 

This is the later air-braked bauxite-painted version used mainly for new car deliveries with faster B4 bogies:

 

 

This is the version converted for Railease with original coach bogies, air brakes and additional branding boards at the right hand end:

 

 

There are others not illustrated here (original vacuum braked brown and blue unbranded plus Motorail with B4 bogies) are the same, but have alternate combinations of bogies and branding boards or are just not fitted with the airbrake parts.  Please note that the buffing plates shown on all the images are for illustrative purposes and will be separate customer fit items so can be left off if not appropriate.

 

These models are available to pre-order now, and we are hoping to have samples on show at the NGS AGM in the summer.

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

(NGS VP)

Edited December 22, 2016 by Ben A

[The Pilotman]

I came across the following image today which appears to be a Carflat in the consist of an engineers train. To me, it looks like the first variant of the model that the NGS are producing. I don't know how widespread use on such trains was but if Motorail trains or new car delivery trains don't have a place on your layout, here's a good reason to buy some. As many people have said before, you can't have too many engineers wagons...

 

 

http://www.hondawanderer.com/37197_Denchworth_1994.htm

 

PS. Anyone have any idea what a Carflat might have been used for in an engineers train?

Edited February 1, 2017 by Western Aviator

[Revolution Ben]

Hello all,

 

We have received images of the first EPs of the Carflat models from Farish, which are now being assessed at Barwell by the design engineer working on this project.

 

This version is the original Motorail branded wagon with side placard and vacuum brakes:

 

 

Later, some were fitted with B4 bogies and air brakes as in this variant:

 

 

In total we are doing six versions, in BR Bauxite, BR Blue, BR Blue Motorail and Railease yellow with various combinations of bogies and brakes.

 

We may be able to have some or all of these models on display at the NGS AGM in May.

 

Once these are approved we should see livery samples in due course, and then the models should go into production. It is of course hard to be sure, and depends on the factory's production plans, but I would hope the models will be here later this year.

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

[Fat Controller]

I came across the following image today which appears to be a Carflat in the consist of an engineers train. To me, it looks like the first variant of the model that the NGS are producing. I don't know how widespread use on such trains was but if Motorail trains or new car delivery trains don't have a place on your layout, here's a good reason to buy some. As many people have said before, you can't have too many engineers wagons...

 

 

http://www.hondawanderer.com/37197_Denchworth_1994.htm

 

PS. Anyone have any idea what a Carflat might have been used for in an engineers train?

It wouldn't be for carrying anything heavy, having only a 10t capacity; the wagon behind looks like a Sturgeon used to carry new sleepers, so the Carflat has perhaps been used to carry the long battens that are placed between the layers of sleepers when the wagons are loaded.

[Revolution Ben]

 

Hello all,

 

Just a quick note to confirm that Farish have sent three of the Carflat EP samples to the NGS so they can be put on display at the Society's AGM taking place this Saturday May 6th in Cleethorpes, North Liincolnshire.

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

[Simon Bendall]

Anyone have any idea what a Carflat might have been used for in an engineers train?

 

I occasionally saw them at Didcot carrying the lifting beam from a pair of Donelli track-relaying gantries, which would also be present folded up on Lowmacs.

[Crepello]

Hatton's latest e-mail has drawn my attention to the forthcoming Ford 400E van from Oxford Diecast; while this is in BR livery, hopefully plain-painted versions will be introduced later to enable representation of the Eastleigh-Dagenham flow and maybe some others which I'm unaware of.  Wikipedia states the 400E was produced between 1957 and 1965, so these fit in nicely with the 1964 Carflat.

[Roy L S]

I have 8 Oxford Diecast Anglia 105es waiting patiently for my pair of Carflats, I would have liked a block train of them but with so many other things on pre-order this will have to do for now. I think I have seen pics of two or three flats with new cars forming part of other freights on the Waverley Route, but of course I can't find them now...

 

Roy

[mikeharvey22]

Hatton's latest e-mail has drawn my attention to the forthcoming Ford 400E van from Oxford Diecast; while this is in BR livery, hopefully plain-painted versions will be introduced later to enable representation of the Eastleigh-Dagenham flow and maybe some others which I'm unaware of.  Wikipedia states the 400E was produced between 1957 and 1965, so these fit in nicely with the 1964 Carflat.

 

Do you have an image of the 400E vans on Carflats? I would be happy to sell the plain colour idea to Oxford Diecast if I had an photo.

[Revolution Ben]

Hello all,

 

At last week's meeting of the NGS Northants and Cambs Area group the three samples of the Society's forthcoming Carflats were put through their paces.

 

There are three slightly different models on show - one in original form, one with the centre "Motorail" branding placard and one with the placard at the right hand end for Railease. They are being manufactured for the NGS by Farish.

 

 

The layout is our under-construction "Crowland Green" which represents a Fenland station and brickworks in North Cambridgeshire in the mid 1960s, so the wagons are perhaps a little out of area if at least in the right timeline.

 

The same can't be said for the traction - the first EP sample of Revolution Trains' forthcoming Class 92 electric, being made by Rapido.

 

Thanks to group member Richard for filming and uploading.

 

Cheers

 

Ben A.

Edited June 18, 2017 by Ben A

[acg5324]

And its looks like the Cambridge / Ely Motorail didn't start until 1974.

[scottystitch]

Not sure how I missed the video, but they look like the run very well. The coupling distance doesn't look too bad either, from the resolution on the video anyway. I have 22 on order, for a loaded and empty rake of 11 each. If I can find funds, I might add 3 or 4 more.....

 

Is that a Revolution Class B EP sitting forlornly in the loop? 

['CHARD]

Not sure how I missed the video, but they look like the run very well. The coupling distance doesn't look too bad either, from the resolution on the video anyway. I have 22 on order, for a loaded and empty rake of 11 each. If I can find funds, I might add 3 or 4 more.....

 

Is that a Revolution Class B EP sitting forlornly in the loop? 

 

22.  Marvellous!!!!!

[scottystitch]

22.  Marvellous!!!!!

Indeed! Bauxite for me, maybe 3 or 4 in a mixed freight train as well....some tractors would be nice.

 

I see in another thread, you were in for a couple dozen of the Oxford LMS carflats, in 'orribly 'oversized.

['CHARD]

Indeed! Bauxite for me, maybe 3 or 4 in a mixed freight train as well....some tractors would be nice.

 

I see in another thread, you were in for a couple dozen of the Oxford LMS carflats, in 'orribly 'oversized.

 

I'm in for plenty - short rake for Vauxhalls and full-fat rakes for BLMC and Blue Oval.  

 

Like you, I'm planning a rake of permanent empties to run 'southbound,' and something in the way of Bachmann 63-footers when they arrive.  My 'Imp Express' rake will be formed from this pool as required.

[scottystitch]

I'm in for plenty - short rake for Vauxhalls and full-fat rakes for BLMC and Blue Oval.  

 

Like you, I'm planning a rake of permanent empties to run 'southbound,' and something in the way of Bachmann 63-footers when they arrive.  My 'Imp Express' rake will be formed from this pool as required.

It is certainly the way to go with these vehicles.

[mikeharvey22]

Pictures of painted samples on the NGS Facebook page, and at other venues later on.

 

https://www.facebook.com/NGaugeSociety/photos/pcb.1602723493119252/1602722303119371/?type=3&theater

[scottystitch]

All

The NGS has recently received painted samples of the Carflat A. Some images are reproduced below. Once these samples have been checked for accuracy/faults, and assuming all is well, the models will be approved for production.

You will perhaps note that there is a colour variation in the decks, from some models to others. The original Brown liveried option, -400U, has a lighter deck, to reflect new or nearly new vehicles, the unbranded blue liveried option, -400V, has a darker appearance. The rest of the models exhibit a darker still deck, to reflect better a more worn and aged surface.



The complete NGS Carflat A Range



377-400U - Brown




377-400V - Blue Unbranded



377-400W - Blue Motorail B1 Bogies. This version could be dual braked. An air tank will be included for the customer's option to fit if required.



377-400W & X (B1 & B4 Bogies respectively) - Close Coupling Illustrated



377-400X - end detail. 



377-400Y - Bauxite



377-400Z - Railease

 

 

Edited August 22, 2017 by scottystitch

[scottystitch]

All, 

Here we have some nice images of the Carflat samples on Paul Churchill's Tormouth layout, giving a nice impression of Motorail trains. I think you'll agree, they look fantastic.

The layout will be at Folkestone show on October 8/9 this year, as will the Carflats, so head along if you can and see them for yourselves in the flesh.

 

The models have been authorised for production, so the society is just awaiting a delivery date from the manufacturers.

[Padishar Creel]

hallo,

we just need Oxford to release the Imp and the Cortina at the same time.................

es grüßt

pc

[acg5324]

hallo,

we just need Oxford to release the Imp and the Cortina at the same time.................

es grüßt

pc

Looks like the first Cortina is out along with the MGB, the second Cortina and MGB colours will be out at the same time as the Imp.

[grahame]

Looks like the first Cortina is out along with the MGB, the second Cortina and MGB colours will be out at the same time as the Imp.

RailNscale are now offering 3D printed Ford Escort Mk3s (1980-86) in RHD 1/148 scale and apparently Bachmann/Farish are planning on produce a small range of cars suitable for the Carflat wagon although there doesn't seem to be any news of the models chosen or an official announcement.

 

G.

[mikeharvey22]

New pricing and delivery information on the N Gauge Society website.

 

http://newweb.ngaugesociety.com/?p=1525

[mikeharvey22]

The Carflat As have arrived. Now just have to be patient until my order is ready for payment.

 

https://www.facebook.com/NGaugeSociety/?hc_ref=ART6NyxNpPgXZG0kJbmrjj4n4bZOQGDYksEiwTQ_xN3m0K1nro0QkfY1Fg7Sd6kz3dQ&fref=nf

[acg5324]

The Carflat As have arrived. Now just have to be patient until my order is ready for payment.https://www.facebook.com/NGaugeSociety/?hc_ref=ART6NyxNpPgXZG0kJbmrjj4n4bZOQGDYksEiwTQ_xN3m0K1nro0QkfY1Fg7Sd6kz3dQ&fref=nf

My email bill arrived yesterday.....might see them soon.........now all we need are some nice 1970s cars to go with them.......