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#101 Steven B

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Posted 30 November 2016 - 13:16

I thought the Chinese factories liked to keep tooling for one project together. i.e. a new underframe tool will be made for the car-flat (as a copy and paste) that can then be kept with (or is part of) the rest of the tooling for the car-flat specific parts. That way the tooling required for a model isn't stored in another factory across town. For the car flat it would also mean that parts that aren't needed like battery boxes and dynamos don't have to be produced.

 

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#102 Ben A

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Posted 22 December 2016 - 17:33

Hello all,
 
A nice Xmas gift from Farish:  final approved CADs.  The model is now heading for the tool shop.
 
This is the dual-braked  Motorail version in BR blue with the distinctive side panels and in this case original BR1 bogies:
 
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This is the later air-braked bauxite-painted version used mainly for new car deliveries with faster B4 bogies:
 
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This is the version converted for Railease with original coach bogies, air brakes and additional branding boards at the right hand end:
 
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There are others not illustrated here (original vacuum braked brown and blue unbranded plus Motorail with B4 bogies) are the same, but have alternate combinations of bogies and branding boards or are just not fitted with the airbrake parts.  Please note that the buffing plates shown on all the images are for illustrative purposes and will be separate customer fit items so can be left off if not appropriate.
 
These models are available to pre-order now, and we are hoping to have samples on show at the NGS AGM in the summer.
 
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Posted 31 January 2017 - 19:24

I came across the following image today which appears to be a Carflat in the consist of an engineers train. To me, it looks like the first variant of the model that the NGS are producing. I don't know how widespread use on such trains was but if Motorail trains or new car delivery trains don't have a place on your layout, here's a good reason to buy some. As many people have said before, you can't have too many engineers wagons...


http://www.hondawand...hworth_1994.htm

PS. Anyone have any idea what a Carflat might have been used for in an engineers train?

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#104 Ben A

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:07

Hello all,

We have received images of the first EPs of the Carflat models from Farish, which are now being assessed at Barwell by the design engineer working on this project.

This version is the original Motorail branded wagon with side placard and vacuum brakes:

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Later, some were fitted with B4 bogies and air brakes as in this variant:

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In total we are doing six versions, in BR Bauxite, BR Blue, BR Blue Motorail and Railease yellow with various combinations of bogies and brakes.

We may be able to have some or all of these models on display at the NGS AGM in May.

Once these are approved we should see livery samples in due course, and then the models should go into production. It is of course hard to be sure, and depends on the factory's production plans, but I would hope the models will be here later this year.

Cheers

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 11:18

I came across the following image today which appears to be a Carflat in the consist of an engineers train. To me, it looks like the first variant of the model that the NGS are producing. I don't know how widespread use on such trains was but if Motorail trains or new car delivery trains don't have a place on your layout, here's a good reason to buy some. As many people have said before, you can't have too many engineers wagons...


http://www.hondawand...hworth_1994.htm

PS. Anyone have any idea what a Carflat might have been used for in an engineers train?

It wouldn't be for carrying anything heavy, having only a 10t capacity; the wagon behind looks like a Sturgeon used to carry new sleepers, so the Carflat has perhaps been used to carry the long battens that are placed between the layers of sleepers when the wagons are loaded.


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Posted 04 May 2017 - 22:45


Hello all,

Just a quick note to confirm that Farish have sent three of the Carflat EP samples to the NGS so they can be put on display at the Society's AGM taking place this Saturday May 6th in Cleethorpes, North Liincolnshire.

Cheers

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#107 Simon Bendall

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Posted 08 May 2017 - 00:29

Anyone have any idea what a Carflat might have been used for in an engineers train?

 

I occasionally saw them at Didcot carrying the lifting beam from a pair of Donelli track-relaying gantries, which would also be present folded up on Lowmacs.


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Posted 06 June 2017 - 15:58

Hatton's latest e-mail has drawn my attention to the forthcoming Ford 400E van from Oxford Diecast; while this is in BR livery, hopefully plain-painted versions will be introduced later to enable representation of the Eastleigh-Dagenham flow and maybe some others which I'm unaware of.  Wikipedia states the 400E was produced between 1957 and 1965, so these fit in nicely with the 1964 Carflat.



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Posted 09 June 2017 - 18:14

I have 8 Oxford Diecast Anglia 105es waiting patiently for my pair of Carflats, I would have liked a block train of them but with so many other things on pre-order this will have to do for now. I think I have seen pics of two or three flats with new cars forming part of other freights on the Waverley Route, but of course I can't find them now...

 

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Posted 10 June 2017 - 11:20

Hatton's latest e-mail has drawn my attention to the forthcoming Ford 400E van from Oxford Diecast; while this is in BR livery, hopefully plain-painted versions will be introduced later to enable representation of the Eastleigh-Dagenham flow and maybe some others which I'm unaware of.  Wikipedia states the 400E was produced between 1957 and 1965, so these fit in nicely with the 1964 Carflat.

 

Do you have an image of the 400E vans on Carflats? I would be happy to sell the plain colour idea to Oxford Diecast if I had an photo.



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 13:23

Hello all,

At last week's meeting of the NGS Northants and Cambs Area group the three samples of the Society's forthcoming Carflats were put through their paces.

There are three slightly different models on show - one in original form, one with the centre "Motorail" branding placard and one with the placard at the right hand end for Railease. They are being manufactured for the NGS by Farish.



The layout is our under-construction "Crowland Green" which represents a Fenland station and brickworks in North Cambridgeshire in the mid 1960s, so the wagons are perhaps a little out of area if at least in the right timeline.

The same can't be said for the traction - the first EP sample of Revolution Trains' forthcoming Class 92 electric, being made by Rapido.

Thanks to group member Richard for filming and uploading.

Cheers

Ben A.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 13:40

And its looks like the Cambridge / Ely Motorail didn't start until 1974.
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Posted 03 July 2017 - 13:12

Not sure how I missed the video, but they look like the run very well. The coupling distance doesn't look too bad either, from the resolution on the video anyway. I have 22 on order, for a loaded and empty rake of 11 each. If I can find funds, I might add 3 or 4 more.....

 

Is that a Revolution Class B EP sitting forlornly in the loop? 



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 13:19

Not sure how I missed the video, but they look like the run very well. The coupling distance doesn't look too bad either, from the resolution on the video anyway. I have 22 on order, for a loaded and empty rake of 11 each. If I can find funds, I might add 3 or 4 more.....

 

Is that a Revolution Class B EP sitting forlornly in the loop? 

 

22.  Marvellous!!!!!



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 13:45

22.  Marvellous!!!!!

Indeed! Bauxite for me, maybe 3 or 4 in a mixed freight train as well....some tractors would be nice.

 

I see in another thread, you were in for a couple dozen of the Oxford LMS carflats, in 'orribly 'oversized.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 13:59

Indeed! Bauxite for me, maybe 3 or 4 in a mixed freight train as well....some tractors would be nice.

 

I see in another thread, you were in for a couple dozen of the Oxford LMS carflats, in 'orribly 'oversized.

 

I'm in for plenty - short rake for Vauxhalls and full-fat rakes for BLMC and Blue Oval.  

 

Like you, I'm planning a rake of permanent empties to run 'southbound,' and something in the way of Bachmann 63-footers when they arrive.  My 'Imp Express' rake will be formed from this pool as required.



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Posted 03 July 2017 - 14:17

I'm in for plenty - short rake for Vauxhalls and full-fat rakes for BLMC and Blue Oval.  

 

Like you, I'm planning a rake of permanent empties to run 'southbound,' and something in the way of Bachmann 63-footers when they arrive.  My 'Imp Express' rake will be formed from this pool as required.

It is certainly the way to go with these vehicles.



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Posted 21 August 2017 - 11:36

Pictures of painted samples on the NGS Facebook page, and at other venues later on.

 

https://www.facebook...?type=3


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Posted 21 August 2017 - 19:51

All

The NGS has recently received painted samples of the Carflat A. Some images are reproduced below. Once these samples have been checked for accuracy/faults, and assuming all is well, the models will be approved for production.

You will perhaps note that there is a colour variation in the decks, from some models to others. The original Brown liveried option, -400U, has a lighter deck, to reflect new or nearly new vehicles, the unbranded blue liveried option, -400V, has a darker appearance. The rest of the models exhibit a darker still deck, to reflect better a more worn and aged surface.


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The complete NGS Carflat A Range


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377-400U - Brown



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377-400V - Blue Unbranded


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377-400W - Blue Motorail B1 Bogies. This version could be dual braked. An air tank will be included for the customer's option to fit if required.


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377-400W & X (B1 & B4 Bogies respectively) - Close Coupling Illustrated


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377-400X - end detail. 


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377-400Y - Bauxite


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377-400Z - Railease
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#120 scottystitch

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Posted 04 September 2017 - 11:35

All, 

Here we have some nice images of the Carflat samples on Paul Churchill's Tormouth layout, giving a nice impression of Motorail trains. I think you'll agree, they look fantastic.

The layout will be at Folkestone show on October 8/9 this year, as will the Carflats, so head along if you can and see them for yourselves in the flesh.

 

The models have been authorised for production, so the society is just awaiting a delivery date from the manufacturers.


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Posted 05 September 2017 - 10:41

hallo,

we just need Oxford to release the Imp and the Cortina at the same time.................

es grüßt

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 19:34

hallo,
we just need Oxford to release the Imp and the Cortina at the same time.................
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Looks like the first Cortina is out along with the MGB, the second Cortina and MGB colours will be out at the same time as the Imp.
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#123 grahame

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Posted 08 October 2017 - 22:52

Looks like the first Cortina is out along with the MGB, the second Cortina and MGB colours will be out at the same time as the Imp.


RailNscale are now offering 3D printed Ford Escort Mk3s (1980-86) in RHD 1/148 scale and apparently Bachmann/Farish are planning on produce a small range of cars suitable for the Carflat wagon although there doesn't seem to be any news of the models chosen or an official announcement.

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#124 mikeharvey22

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Posted 31 October 2017 - 11:28

New pricing and delivery information on the N Gauge Society website.

 

http://newweb.ngauge...ety.com/?p=1525



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Posted 17 March 2018 - 10:03

The Carflat As have arrived. Now just have to be patient until my order is ready for payment.

https://www.facebook...d6kz3dQ&fref=nf
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