RMweb Premium Steven B Posted March 29, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2016 Did the paper and aluminium flows terminate at Mossend/Coatbridge or sent on elsewhere? Happy modelling. Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted March 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 29, 2016 They both went up the WHL to Fort William/Corpach. Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonzack Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I'll definitely be getting some too, how many early bird KFAs can you get for a Kidney these days? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu from EGDL Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Hi Gang, I would have liked to plump for some GPS bogies versions....but my 5 just ordered are destined for MoD work...( containers already ordered) so some Tiphook with Y25s are the best option for me. As I have invested heavily in Dapol and Farish spines/Megafrets/twins, then my container train will occasionally be supplemented/infiltrated by the odd KFA...or if funds allow, then another batch might get procured in the near future. For now...I'm declaring a 'purchase free April' to reinstate some sanity to the bank account after the KFA and 320 ordering.... Later, Stu from EGDL. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Boar Fell Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Good choice again! With regards to the waste containers, 2 sets are available through Shapeways, Vonzack's Excellent boxes in FUD, or my scaled down WSF boxes (pictured). HTH Wild Boar Fell 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Steven B Posted March 30, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 30, 2016 Did the paper and aluminium flows terminate at Mossend/Coatbridge or sent on elsewhere? They both went up the WHL to Fort William/Corpach. I knew both wagon loads (paper and Aluminium) started at Fort William, what I was asking (badly worded!) was where was their destination? i.e. can I add two or three wagons to a WCML Speedlink service? Happy modelling. Steven B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arran Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 The Paper went south on the liners to Tilbury i think and the Aluminum went on to Cardiff for processing, The KFAs could also be seen in Stranraer town at the yard with bulk liquid stuffs for a factory not to far away these were handled by Stockton haulage. Regards Arran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim H Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I *think* these wagons were used on a short-term flow from Falmouth carrying lead ship's ballast in the mid-90s, using two 20' Bin Liner style containers.per wagon (because lead is heavy) Anyone got photos of that flow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonzack Posted April 19, 2016 Share Posted April 19, 2016 Hi Guys, This may be of interest to those who are looking to model the Aluminium flows with the PFA/KFA wagons - http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/74927-n-gauge-wagons-pxa-fea-befs-kta-kfa-binliners/?p=2279158 Cheers, Mark. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
definate maybe Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 hi, can someone help on the pricing aspect? Ive gone to order two single wagons and I get quoted a price of £50 including delivery. The website suggests either £22 per wagon on early bird or £25 after. There is a £5 delivery charge quoted but for me that should be £49 or £54 if the early bird discounted is deducted at a later stage. Ive looked on the FAQ page in case I am missing something but answers to the given questions do not become available when I click. Its not a major issues as we are only talking about a small amount of money but was just looking for clarity and to make sure Im not missing something. Thanks in advance Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted April 20, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 20, 2016 Hi Mark The P&P is £5 for the first one then an extra £1 for each extra wagon (or triple set). Cheers, Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
definate maybe Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 thanks for your quick response. order has now been placed Mark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted April 21, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 21, 2016 Still trying to work out how many to get. Ten seems a little light 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 25, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Hello all We have received the CAD for the KFA010D version with VNH-1 bogies, rectangular buffers and body-mounted handbrakewheels. This CAD has had some additional bodyside details added too. The deck mouldings will be the same for the versions with GPS and VNH-1 bogies - in reality they are not quite identical but the differences are very subtle and largely comprise slightly difference positioning of some of the brake system components on the underframe. The obvious differences - buffer shape, bogies and bogie-mounted hand-brake wheels - are being correctly depicted. Needless to say these are only CADs - when it comes to actually manufacturing the model some aspects may change. The VNH-1 bogies are nice, but I want the top edge to be very slightly smoother. Depicting the container mounting points caused some discussion. The first CAD received had them modelled pretty much to scale. We asked to see how the model would look if designed for Dapol containers, which have 1.1mm spigots at each corner, as we thought this might be useful to our customers. However, our view is that to be strong enough the mounting holes are so big they significantly detract from the model's appearance, so we are going back to our original design here. Original design: Modified to take Dapol containers: We are looking at other possible solutions to make adding containers straightforward for our supporters. We have asked for a few very small tweaks to these CADs, and of course couplers are yet to be added, but we are optimistic that the CADs will be approved well before the Early Bird discount period ends, so no one has to commit to a model they can't be confident about! cheers Ben A. Edited April 25, 2016 by Ben A 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted April 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2016 Ben By the time the wagons are weathered and containers added on top it will be very hard to note the different locations of the pipework so for me and I suspect many others, that compromise is a very good one. Re the holes for containers, I glue mine on with canopy glue so the issue with holes being big enough goes away and canopy glue can always be peeled off if the containers require removing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeharvey22 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) That brakework looks immaculate, Ben. Good to see how quickly this is advancing. Mike Edited April 25, 2016 by mikeharvey22 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted April 25, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2016 Ben Re the holes for containers, I glue mine on with canopy glue so the issue with holes being big enough goes away and canopy glue can always be peeled off if the containers require removing. Hi Ian, I hadn't thought of canopy glue - what a great idea. Is it readily available? cheers Ben Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted April 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 25, 2016 Hi Ian, I hadn't thought of canopy glue - what a great idea. Is it readily available? cheers Ben Ben Yes it is from various traders including Squires. I havent use the one in the link but suspect they are much the same https://www.amazon.co.uk/Zap-Canopy-Glue-Bottle-G-PT56/dp/B004RO3IAE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0rris Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Apologies if I am being daft but I've been planning an MOD rake for a while and was also thinking of picking up a couple for my freightliner rake, which set are suitable for the MOD rake? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Mike Posted May 15, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2016 IIRC the ones on the VNH1 bogies were more common for MOD trains - best bet is to look at something like Martyn Read's excellent site. Livery will depend on what era you want them for. Cheers, Mike 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glorious NSE Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 IIRC the ones on the VNH1 bogies were more common for MOD trains - best bet is to look at something like Martyn Read's excellent site. Helpful linky. https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/K-Tops-codes/KFA-Intermodal-flats/ (Note, collection contains all types of KFA, not just the ones Revolution are producing. TIPH 93424, 431 and 489 are examples of the correct type of flat with MOD box loads.) Era - so long as you're talking fairly modern i'd suggest buying scheme #5 for the MOD traffic and #6 for Freightliner... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0rris Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Thanks guys, the plan is for a short representative rake of the type seen in Oxfordshire over the past 5 years. I'll probably grab a pack of each and use the opportunity to phase out a particularly troublesome Dapol Megafret pair... (That's also a dead handy website I'd not come across before) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted May 15, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted May 15, 2016 Hi Morris Over the years both types have been used. In this shot from the 1997 the first two have GPS bogies, the third VNH-1 bogies. Fretconnection At Elmsfield. by neilh156, on Flickr Browsing photographs on sites like SmugMug and Flickr suggests that at the moment the versions with the VNH-1 bogies are more prevalent. cheers Ben A. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 The VNH1 bogies were originally fitted to a number of wagons for use on trains to Muizen via the Channel Tunnel; these trains carried a lot of 30' Bulktainers and 20' ISO tanks, and the Euro-Twins previously used weren't really designed for ISO boxes. The Gloucester bogies didn't have UIC approval, and so couldn't be used on trains to the Continent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrysoham Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 Can someone tell me the length of the Revolution Trains Tiphook PFA/KFA container flats please? I want to know how many I will need to fit the storage sidings on Neely. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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