SwissRailPassion Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 I have had 4 class 22s and all have been sent back because of light failures , wobbles, poor pick ups and running badly in one direction. In the end I've given up and got a refund. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbles2 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 Ask for Andy, http://www.dccsupplies.com/ Hi Bubbles2 So I take it the blanking plate has failed.I am on dc and using gaugemaster controllers (both normal and feedback) and have had no problems with other manufacturers locos.Forgive my ignorance but who are DCC and how do I make contact? Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Does anyone know if Dapol are planning any further OO gauge Class 22s? A green one with headcode boxes but no yellow panel would be nice, and perhaps a blue one painted the same colour as their blue Westerns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The 2014/15 Dapol catalogue catalogue has no new releases of the split headcode blind Class 22, with one blue version still showing from the earlier runs - D1000H (Dapol ref) which is BR blue with full yellow ends D6328 - this is currently stocked by Hattons. There are 3 disc headcode versions, all in BR Green but with yellow panels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 D6328 is not one of their best sellers for a fairly obvious reason. This is the real thing: https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6054/6260767848_ab91a01a1d.jpg . This is the model: http://www.ehattons.com/56924/Dapol_D1000h_Class_22_B_B_Diesel_Hydraulic_D6328_font_A_in_BR_blue_with_full_yellow_ends/StockDetail.aspx . Spot the deliberate mistake. As for a green one with headcode boxes but no yellow panels, the Dapol model depicts the batch D6313-32 and none of those carried this variation. Geoff Endacott 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted February 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 2, 2015 I'm also unconvinced by the Dapol interpretation of rail blue on these locos. It's better (but not good) on the 52s and the weathering on those masks it to some extent. But even the weathered 22s look a bit poorly sick in the colour department while the pristine ones look much too close to the green spectrum. However it's what we have and they are generally good reliable locos. Those here are among the highest run-time locos in my fleet and also about the lowest on down-time. Quite a reversal of their full-sized fortunes really. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve T Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I have had 4 class 22s and all have been sent back because of light failures , wobbles, poor pick ups and running badly in one direction. In the end I've given up and got a refund. I'm on my third one having returned two because the lighting failed on both within a matter of a few weeks. It's also failed on this one. None of my other models (Bachmann, Heljan and Dapol) have had the slightest problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted May 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2015 Did Dapol ever do it in blue with small yellow ends? This is one of my favourites, it is not perfect as has been pointed out and the paint could be improved but overall it captures the look of the prototype well and since the real NBL Type 2's are a huge favourite of mine it is a model that is very close to my heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted May 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2015 As an aside, how do people set up the valances? Making these with the valances as separate parts was an innovative idea and it was wellexecuted but I can't help feeling it is another example of answering a question that nobody had ever asked. In this case I do think there is more call forit than outright gimmicks such as opening doors as the real things were often seen with some of the valances off but I'm really not sure whether this particular feature was worth the effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 Taking a leaf from gwiwer's book, I scored one of the valance panels and "hinged" it outwards, as often occurred on the real things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted May 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 11, 2015 The valence panels plug in easily and are numbered as well so the system should be idiot proof. With five 22s in the fleet I find that on all the No.3 panel can be a little loose and occasionally slips from its correct position. One loco seems to have all ten panels looser than the others which I can only ascribe to a slight difference (call it very minor distortion if you like) in the shape of the main body shell. That is in the order of fractions of a millimetre and of no real concern to me. The "fix" has been that one loco runs permanently with a No.3 panel missing and the others have then very lightly glued now that I don't expect to go inside again. Lubrication can be completed from the outside. It was fairly common to see locos in traffic missing at least one panel so the absentee represents reality. I like the innovative approach taken with these locos in terms of providing plug-in panels. It has allowed a greater level of accurate detail to be represented than might otherwise have been the case and at a reasonable price as well. It might take a little time to remember these locos should not be lifted off the track by their bodies but by the fuel tank though once the panels have been refitted a couple of times that lesson tends to stick in the mind! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted May 11, 2015 Share Posted May 11, 2015 I hold them together in a strip with PVC tape. Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted May 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 12, 2015 I tend to glue the panels to the bodyside with solvent. They tend to stay in place even when the body is removed from the chassis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I use Blu-tack or the stickier black stuff (Homelux Bath Seal), thus holding them in place while allowing me to change my mind on wehther to have the panel present or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted May 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 12, 2015 I pretty much just leave mine as all on now, with a bit of blue tack to hold them securely whilst still leaving the door open to remove them. At first I played around with them a lot but then decided just to leave them in place. I do love the overall shape and look of the model though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumplezone Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Hello gents, apologises for bringing up a older topic but I got a N gauge 22 today in the post and some minor issues with it which I'd like to ask about.Firstly when I ran it in after lubricating as per the Dapol instructions the motor sound has seemed to reduced abit but its really still kinda dentist drill whine sound still to is. I have read from google searches that people could get them running nearly silent and I've even watched a few videos on youtube of them running silent to.I have taken off the bogies and cleared out the sticky/hard lubricant and applied gaugemaster oil with the precision applicator, its made is ever so slightly less whiney but its still considerably loud. What I mean by that is, I can leave the room, go downstairs and into the kitchen and still hear the motor whining as it goes around on the loop after 2hours in each direction.Also when its going around on the test track loop on 2nd or 3rd radius curves, one specific cab end has on part of the curve a derailing sound but the wheels are not actually coming off the rails, it makes it for about 3-4secs then is fine untill it comes back around again and always does it with that cab end only. I have checked to see if anything is catching but I cannot see anything out of place and there is no visible friction marks.I am concerned it might be gears making the derailing/knocking sound.I am being unrealistic in regards to the whining on the motor expecting it to be quite silent, close to how the new graham farish coreless trains are? I have a few of those and they are deathly silently besides the clickyclack of the wheels, I have run it in both directions for atleast 2 and half hours each way and its just not really becoming any quieter and the oil hasn't dried up.I also noted it seems to run quite warm even on a low/medium speed.I have contacted the retailer I bought from and should hear tomorrow/or I'll ring them in the morning. I think this one might be a duff, does anyone else have any experience with this kind of issue? Edited July 31, 2015 by Crumplezone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted July 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 31, 2015 I think this one might be a duff No - it's definitely a class 22 But it may be a dud in which case an exchange would be a fair outcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class29returns Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Have Dapol gave up on this model?Wouldnt mind a bsyp and a gfyp version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
90rob Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Email from Gaugemaster: OO Scale Class 22 Diesel LocomotiveExpected mid-2017 Dapol have announced the production of five more OO Scale Class 22s with headcodes. Production will be limited, so place your order ASAP to avoid disappointment.DA4D-012-004 Class 22 D6356 BR Green No WP Font A HeadcodeDA4D-012-005 Class 22 D6312 BR Green FYP Font A HeadcodeDA4D-012-006 Class 22 D6327 BR Blue SYP Font A HeadcodeDA4D-012-007 Class 22 D6339 BR Green SYP Serif Font HeadcodeDA4D-012-008 Class 22 D6352 BR Blue FYE Font B HeadcodeOnly £149.95 each Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2016 Hmm from the later batch 39/52/56 had different front ends to the earlier versions early batch 6327: https://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6260767508/in/album-72157627930289750/ later batch: https://www.flickr.com/photos/59835095@N02/6260768874/in/album-72157627930289750/ Excellent phots as usual from Brush Veteran of this parish...will that be reflected in the models? hope so! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted November 25, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) Yes indeed, and D6356 was delivered with a yellow panel, as were all others from D6337 onwards. A better choice for an all-green loco, with the later headcode built from new, would be 6334, 6335 or 6336. Edited November 25, 2016 by stovepipe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
90rob Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I've been hoping for a blue syp since seeing the Gauge 1 D6327 on Worcester Road! I did see a few of the real ones, but for some reason only remember them in green... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_stevens Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 OO Scale Class 22 Diesel LocomotiveExpected mid-2017 Dapol have announced the production of five more OO Scale Class 22s with headcodes. Production will be limited, so place your order ASAP to avoid disappointment. DA4D-012-004 Class 22 D6356 BR Green No WP Font A Headcode DA4D-012-005 Class 22 D6312 BR Green FYP Font A Headcode DA4D-012-006 Class 22 D6327 BR Blue SYP Font A Headcode DA4D-012-007 Class 22 D6339 BR Green SYP Serif Font Headcode DA4D-012-008 Class 22 D6352 BR Blue FYE Font B Headcode Only £149.95 each I wonder what colour the blue ones will be this time? BR blue would be nice but... Luke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Dapol do seem to have some difficulties with BR blue: too light on previous class 22s, way too dark/purple-tinted on class 73s. Since there is a well documented paint standard, it is hard to understand why they cannot match that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted November 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2016 Dapol do seem to have some difficulties with BR blue: too light on previous class 22s, way too dark/purple-tinted on class 73s. Since there is a well documented paint standard, it is hard to understand why they cannot match that. And off the mark, though not seriously so, on the 52s. The 22s are appalling and I can really only hide the "blue" livery behind heavy weathering to have mine look credible. Luckily they were often presented in woebegone condition though a number of pictures exist showing freshly-painted blue ones looking really good. Fingers crossed. Not ordering until seen due to poor colour on the earlier ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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