RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted August 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just saw a Z21 update arrived. Anybody has an idea what has changed? (Cannot check properly as I am on holiday...) Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2019 51 minutes ago, Vecchio said: Just saw a Z21 update arrived. Anybody has an idea what has changed? (Cannot check properly as I am on holiday...) Thanks What version number? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted August 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just crash & bug fixes is all it says, no new features listed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted August 31, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 31, 2019 1 hour ago, PaulRhB said: Just crash & bug fixes is all it says, no new features listed. But what version? 1.2 for Android only came out on Aug 7th Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted August 31, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 31, 2019 1.2.1 for Apple Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Kettlewell Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 (edited) For Android it's v1.2.1 dated 28 Aug 2019. Notes say crash fixes, bug fixes and improvements. No mention of what the improvements are. Cheers … Alan Edited August 31, 2019 by Alan Kettlewell 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EsK Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 I am trying the Z21 app for the first time. Is there a way to use the layout editor on the PC to create the track plan? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2020 31 minutes ago, EsK said: I am trying the Z21 app for the first time. Is there a way to use the layout editor on the PC to create the track plan? Thanks I don’t know exactly but this is in the faq section https://www.z21.eu/en/faqs-support/questions-answers 1.10. Can I also connect the Z21 to a normal PC or notebook? Yes, this is possible on a Windows system. The connection is established via the LAN port (network socket) on the computer. So I assume if you have a pc that runs apps you can? You can email their tech support but the replies are a bit slow. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 If you run the android version within an Android emulator you can run it on Windows, but it isn’t native and you are best doing on the tablet ww.bignox.com for emulator. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 13, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 13, 2020 And if you do it on the tablet you can export it back to others or iPhones by email. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickC Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 V1.3.1 now available for iPad, just download it but haven’t had a chance to check it out. Appears to contain an optional new designer for the control station which looks more like a mimic panel., Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 26, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2020 Nothing for Android yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
45070 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 I have been experimenting with drawing new plans in the updated app. Much easier and clearer, and looking much more like a real signal box panel. Signals can be included in routes (could you do that before??), but response modules cannot be tied to signals (so that a signal can be placed to red to protect an occupied section ahead). If this could be done I would be looking to use this app to control my signals, instead of buying Itrains software. I’m planning to run trains manually. The attached screenshot 20 minutes work redrawing part of my layout. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2020 Yes signals in routes have been in since the original app, I use it to make sure the signal reverts to danger if conflicting routes are set 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Kettlewell Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 It seems I can't get this update as it requires a more modern op system than my old iPad Mini - which is only supported up to IOS 9.3.5 and won't upgrade to any newer version - a reason I dislike Apple gear. A pity as I like the size of the old iPad Mini. Well, I might have to look for a newer iPad or switch to a Samsung tablet instead - or keep with the older version of the Z21 app. Cheers … Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Alan Kettlewell said: It seems I can't get this update as it requires a more modern op system than my old iPad Mini - which is only supported up to IOS 9.3.5 and won't upgrade to any newer version - a reason I dislike Apple gear. A pity as I like the size of the old iPad Mini. Well, I might have to look for a newer iPad or switch to a Samsung tablet instead - or keep with the older version of the Z21 app. Cheers … Alan Samsung tablets are Android and Roco haven't issued an Android update. (yet?) They are living in the past, more Android devices are sold these days than Apple. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Kettlewell Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 Yes I have a Samsung. Just looking and the latest Z21 version for Android which is Nov 2019. Perhaps an update will follow .. Also looking at an 8" Samsung Tab A at £139 from Currys, but which I can get for £118 direct from Samsung with my Defence Discount card ...hmmmm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted March 28, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 28, 2020 50 minutes ago, melmerby said: They are living in the past, more Android devices are sold these days than Apple. The sales are irrelevant they support both! The android version sometimes comes first and whichever didn’t release first will follow within a couple of weeks usually. Obviously they release it as soon as it’s ready rather than waiting to release both together. I use iPhones as throttles and android tablets as control panels with equal support on both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmotrutta Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Alan Kettlewell said: It seems I can't get this update as it requires a more modern op system than my old iPad Mini - which is only supported up to IOS 9.3.5 and won't upgrade to any newer version - a reason I dislike Apple gear. A pity as I like the size of the old iPad Mini. Well, I might have to look for a newer iPad or switch to a Samsung tablet instead - or keep with the older version of the Z21 app. Cheers … Alan I have the same problem with a perfectly good iPad 2 which won't run the latest iOS. Very annoying! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Vecchio Posted March 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Alan Kettlewell said: Yes I have a Samsung. Just looking and the latest Z21 version for Android which is Nov 2019. Perhaps an update will follow .. Also looking at an 8" Samsung Tab A at £139 from Currys, but which I can get for £118 direct from Samsung with my Defence Discount card ...hmmmm... Well I use a 10" tablet from Huawei which is brilliant and I paid less than 100£ (Argos). Well probably there is free spy-software on it. They can spy what they want, I use it only for my Z21.... Battery lifetime is great, essential if you want to use it for a show. (But I also purchased 3m USB cables just in case...) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 For anyone thinking about a new iPAD, wait for a new version to be launched and then buy the 'slightly' older version, they generally get sold off with a reasonable discount. John P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIMorrison Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Salmotrutta said: I have the same problem with a perfectly good iPad 2 which won't run the latest iOS. Very annoying! Apple changed to 64 bit only architecture many years ago and it is up to the app creators to maintain a 64 bit and 32 bit for the older machines that are IOS 9 and earlier. If the app creators down make a 32 bit version then you cant run it. In this case it is Roco that is at fault, and not Apple, - something that is hard to say for a man who doesnt like Apple, but uses an iPhone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmotrutta Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 2 hours ago, WIMorrison said: Apple changed to 64 bit only architecture many years ago and it is up to the app creators to maintain a 64 bit and 32 bit for the older machines that are IOS 9 and earlier. If the app creators down make a 32 bit version then you cant run it. In this case it is Roco that is at fault, and not Apple, - something that is hard to say for a man who doesnt like Apple, but uses an iPhone I hadn't realised that was the reason for older Apple products getting stuck at iOS 8. I wondered why my 64Mb iPod touch is also a brick these days. At least ROCO have kept the legacy app (at least I still have it) unlike most of the apps on my iPod that have simply disappeared. Oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted March 28, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 28, 2020 (edited) Even Android stuff gets left behind with updates. A phone I had was Android 4.4, I had the phone quite a few years and there never was an update available to a later OS I've had my Galaxy Tab a few years, It's on 5.1, again no updates but my current phone, a Motorola (Lenovo) device was on Android 8 and updated to Android 9 sometime last year. The "new" Z21 app only works on Android 5 or later, so my old phone was useless but it could run the "old" app. Edited March 28, 2020 by melmerby 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpendle Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Well in typical Z21 fashion the new layout designer is clear as mud. I failed to read and fully digest the help pop ups that appeared on my screen, and now I can’t find the help screens and all I seem able to do is select track pieces that stubbornly refuse to be dragged into the track plan. Help John P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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