ScRSG Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 On 03/10/2021 at 12:31, The Stationmaster said: Test runs apart as a gas turbine 18100 lasted barely a year in traffic and even then was restricted in its sphere of operation while as an electric conversion it is doubtful if it even worked any test/training trains once electrification had advanced beyond the Styal Loop and the new ac locos had begun to arrive. I am sure it was used to test the North Clydeside electric OHLE, I have a vague recollection as a 14 year old (now sixty years on!) of it passing through Queen St. low level and there is this photograph (will remove if copyright offends) of it sitting in a siding outside Coatbridge Sunnyside - 9 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyKarl Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 16/10/2021 at 09:05, adb968008 said: "Not suitable for 3rd radius" this, last line in the text, stood out for me in the blurb.. Was the 3rd (and 2nd) radius limitation ever mentioned by Rails of Sheffield on their order page? I was rather attracted to E2001 as an example of a late crest loco in black, but I am seriously put off buying one if it won't run on 2nd radius curves, which seem to be a de facto standard in the OO world of model railways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigherb Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 On 19/10/2021 at 15:04, JeremyKarl said: Was the 3rd (and 2nd) radius limitation ever mentioned by Rails of Sheffield on their order page? I was rather attracted to E2001 as an example of a late crest loco in black, but I am seriously put off buying one if it won't run on 2nd radius curves, which seem to be a de facto standard in the OO world of model railways. I think it will be able to negotiate tighter radius curves than 18000 as the bogies are not hidden behind a valence. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 E2001 Rugby 1972 by John Evans 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul 27 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 15:10, Staffordshire said: Talk of 10800 & 11001 ........ Nice model of 10800 is this built from a kit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffordshire Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Yes, both 10800 and 11001 above are kit built .... 11001 is a Judith Edge kit and 10800 is a Dave Alexander (RIP) kit .... Hope this helps ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 On 03/10/2021 at 13:44, Ian J. said: It sells to me because I have a 'Prototypes' collection that I'm building, ostensibly for a fictional 'Prototypes' day on the S&P. I have no possible use for it otherwise Yup - exactly my perspective - will join "Lion" and all the others 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thohurst Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Spotted some videos on Rails Of Sheffield's instagram page of Heljan's undecorated samples. Hard to tell without some close-up images, but they look good! Looking forward to E2001 myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
e30ftw Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 hopfully they may upload them here or their website Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thohurst Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Heljan have put out an update on facebook (and on the ROS site) with livery-drawings of the models. Hopefully the decorated samples will follow soon? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
e30ftw Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 Does anybody have any updates on this project? I can not imagine this will not have a price hike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Eddie the dog Posted October 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 25, 2023 Hopefully won’t be too long now ! They’ve just been updated to Rails webpage for Q4 2023 release. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I’ve checked again with Rails and there are no plans to offer sound versions. It’s a pity but I hope that one of the after market specialists will offer something suitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoomer1979 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 32 minutes ago, No Decorum said: I’ve checked again with Rails and there are no plans to offer sound versions. It’s a pity but I hope that one of the after market specialists will offer something suitable. I've got a sound fitted Silverfox version of 18100. Can't remember who it might have been as I got it second hand. But it's pretty convincing and is nicely different from the other gas turbines with sound. Neil. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Eddie the dog said: Hopefully won’t be too long now ! They’ve just been updated to Rails webpage for Q4 2023 release. Last time I looked it was going to be Q4 last year! I haven't ordered one as I'm not clear what radius curves it needs and I was less than impressed with 18000. So it's another Wait & See decision. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
e30ftw Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 small update https://railsofsheffield.com/blogs/news/Heljan-18100-gas-turbine 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted January 20 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20 Now received the announcement with images of their arrival late February. Being a bit pedantic,in their accompanying text,they state it was delivered to BR in 1952. In fact it was displayed at the 1951 Festival of Britain Railway exhibition at Waterloo East .Be that as it may,it does seem that Heljan have made a splendid job of it in both its guises 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliepetty Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 25/10/2023 at 16:17, zoomer1979 said: I've got a sound fitted Silverfox version of 18100. Can't remember who it might have been as I got it second hand. But it's pretty convincing and is nicely different from the other gas turbines with sound. Neil. Legomanbiffo will be doing both types. https://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=253_68&page=8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This video on YouTube was posted 6 hours ago (as at the time of posting this). 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Decorum Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 There’s a video of the turbine version too. That’s both of my orders upgraded to sound. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 21/01/2024 at 11:17, charliepetty said: Legomanbiffo will be doing both types. https://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=253_68&page=8 It would be interesting to hear the difference between the sound projects, as to my ears the one being offered directly by Rails of Sheffield sounds like a remapped 18000 file in that video, not much different in startup and main turbine sound. In fact after having just typed that, I went and pulled up a startup video I had taken of 18000, synced the start times of the compressor, and they are the exact same startup and turbine sounds as each other. I know it's being a little picky, but some variance between the pair would've been nice. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 26 minutes ago, 69843 said: It would be interesting to hear the difference between the sound projects, as to my ears the one being offered directly by Rails of Sheffield sounds like a remapped 18000 file in that video, not much different in startup and main turbine sound. In fact after having just typed that, I went and pulled up a startup video I had taken of 18000, synced the start times of the compressor, and they are the exact same startup and turbine sounds as each other. I know it's being a little picky, but some variance between the pair would've been nice. Surely what's important is that they should be authentic? If this is not possible due to the lack of recordings, having two different, but equally inauthentic sound files is pointless? CJI. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
69843 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 18 minutes ago, cctransuk said: Surely what's important is that they should be authentic? If this is not possible due to the lack of recordings, having two different, but equally inauthentic sound files is pointless? CJI. I agree with you that they should be authentic where possible, and also accept that this is not always possible. I also say this without having the research work to hand that would have been available to both Heljan and Rails whilst doing the project, but I believe amongst other things the engines differed in RPMs which would be noticeable at full power, and be remappable in theory with modern sound editing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cctransuk Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 1 hour ago, 69843 said: I agree with you that they should be authentic where possible, and also accept that this is not always possible. I also say this without having the research work to hand that would have been available to both Heljan and Rails whilst doing the project, but I believe amongst other things the engines differed in RPMs which would be noticeable at full power, and be remappable in theory with modern sound editing. I still can't see the point of refining sound that no-one can say is authentic. I suppose that ignorance is bliss! CJI. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Rails report due late February now ......................... Looks splendid (to my untrained Southern Region eye) ................. absolutely love these one-off prototype models from Heljan 👍 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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