Alcanman Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Okay, the reason for double heading is back-up cover in case of engine trouble over the weekends. The youtube clip was taken on Sunday afternoon. Thanks for that, Chris. The layout is looking great, love the way you fitted in the new warehouse. Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F-UnitMad Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Steve called round today with the corner warehouse. it looks good. You're not kidding!! Steve has found a 'niche market' I think... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Gilbert Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 You're not kidding!! Steve has found a 'niche market' I think... Some more photos taken by Steve Williams's Warehouses sounds a good name for his new business Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunshine coast Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Unusual way to dry paint on a model......but if it works what the heck Regards Trevor... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Chris, will you stop trying to find me extra work. I still haven't finished cleaning up your transparencies! Trevor, I reckon regulo 4 for everything and you can't go wrong!! Thanks for the positive comments fellas. Appreciated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northpoint Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Steve - how about a new topic showing how you do it - just the basics - then the rest of us can have a go. Sorry - not trying to put you out of business or anything..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Steve - how about a new topic showing how you do it - just the basics - then the rest of us can have a go. Sorry - not trying to put you out of business or anything..... I'll sort some photos out. I do have a few construction photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 OK. Here goes. I use 3.5mm foamboard for the carcass. Did initially use 5mm but found it more difficult to cut at right-angles Picture 1 shows how I overlay the concrete sections onto the foamboard. A little bit of careful planning will result in no problem at the ends with very small sections. Through trial and error, I now find aligning the plastic rectangles with the top is preferable and then trimming the bottom. This ensures no problems when fixing a capping strip to the top. The exception to this is when fixing the sections that have the door openings as these, obviously, have to be the same distance from the ground. I make my openings 15mm from ground level. That seems to work OK. When fixing each section, I use UHU solvent -FREE adhesive. Must use the solvent-free, otherwise there is no time to spread the stuff about. Normally do 2-3 pieces at a time and weigh down. Adhesive takes some time to go off, probably not until the following day to cure completely. However, one can continue reasonably quickly with the next lot of sections. I use 1mm square plastic strip as spacers. Obviously, it is vital to get the first section vertical! Not all warehouses are built in sections, obviously. However, the nice thing about building those that are, is that when it comes to cutting out the door apertures, if you ‘cock one up’, it is only a small piece of plastic and not the entire front section that has to be re-done. I created a couple of templates in Coral Draw which I print out on card, cut out and tape to the plastic. I then cut through the card and score the plastic sheet, before continuing in the normal way. I have developed an easy way to complete the door openings which, when I explain it, will probably sound complicated and confusing, but I’ll have a go: When I have cut the aperture from the first section, I will position it accurately and draw inside the opening. With a pencil. This puts a square on the foamboard. I then draw a margin about 3.5mm all round that square. (It is important that you don’t make the margin too big as it can end up conflicting with the recessed floor, if you decide to put one in). When done, cut out the large square. This will be larger than the finished opening. Then, using 3.2mm square, plastic section, I fit four pieces around the previously cut opening in the plastic section, ensuring they are flush with the edges. You don’t have to be critical with the lengths of these as three of them can overlap the adjacent one a bit. It is only the fourth one that you have to cut accurately. Use normal plastic solvent for this. You will now be able to locate and fix that particular plastic section in place, and the larger, previously cut, aperture in the foamboard will cater for the four wall side sections you have fitted to the plastic. You now need to cut a suitably sized piece of foamboard and glue it to the rear of the opening, obviously over-lapping the aperture created. You can just see one of these in Picture 4. Note that before gluing this backing piece into place (with PVA), I cut a small square out of the centre. This backing piece will have the door itself glued to it. The opening in the back enables the door to be removed easily prior to final fixing. I tend to put in a lot of bracing to reduce risk of warping, or to counteract any that may already be in the foamboard. All foamboard is fixed with PVA. I use ‘Tacky Glue’ from Hobbycraft. It has a nice controllable nozzle. Picture 2 & 3 show some of the bracing. Note that I put a floor in. this creates a box structure that is stronger and more rigid. I recess the floor slightly (This is why you have to be careful cutting out the enlarged door apertures). By recessing you reduce the likelihood of having a problem with a ‘rocking warehouse’. It also looks neater and I am ‘anal’ about such things! Note in Picture 2, a square hole can be seen in the floor. These are aligned with the square holes in the rear of the door openings. Thus, if the floor is fitted, it is still possible to ‘pop’ the doors out until they have been painted and permanently fixed. Picture 4 shows the building complete except for doors and plastic capping strip. This I fix with the PVA glue which will not give a very strong bond between the plastic and the foamboard, so when dry, I run solvent along the join with the wall sections to give a bit of added strength. Doors themselves are cut from Pikestuff roof section (the white stuff) Painting is Halfords grey plastic primer all over and then Plastikote beige suede. When dry, I usually give a faint wash of Humbrol 28. Any staining below the doors is added later. Usually use Precision Dirty Black and Humbrol Leather. For the roof, I usually use Humbrol 67 and then sieve on a copious amount of white pepper all over. Press down using a small section of smooth wood and leave to dry for a couple of days. Then reclaim most of the pepper and lightly sand using quite coarse wet and dry. Picture 5 shows the building complete except for the roof. I stencilled some numbers on this one using a plastic stencil and gently stippling white emulsion paint. It was almost a dry brush technique, except that I stippled using a soft water-colour type brush. Chris’ pink warehouse was constructed in broadly the same way except that it is a s*****g awkward shape. After the Plastikote was sprayed on, I stippled Crown matchpot ‘Coral’. That’s about it I think. Let me know if anything needs clarifying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXHALL Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Superb I am inspired to have a crack at one of these today. Hope you don't mind!? Was already on my to Rochester to pick some box cars today and was looking for a suitable warehouse for them. This will be my first venture in to overseas modelling as well!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Steve is that hobbycraft foamboard or another brand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted October 27, 2012 Share Posted October 27, 2012 Steve is that hobbycraft foamboard or another brand? Dave, I have used Hobbycraft for 5mm before now, although the 3.5mm stuff is from PSW in Studley, Warwickshire, which is only a 10min drive for me. They are a graphics, art and print specialists. I believe they also have places in Worcester and Alcester. Superb I am inspired to have a crack at one of these today. Hope you don't mind!? Was already on my to Rochester to pick some box cars today and was looking for a suitable warehouse for them. This will be my first venture in to overseas modelling as well!!!! Go for it. It was the first time I had ever done any scratchbuilding, so a basic shoe-box structure is a good place to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Gilbert Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Here's a bit of a photo update of the new section I know it's a BNSF caboose, that's for the next layout.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northpoint Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Looking good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_long Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 The lighting pelmet and backscene certainly make it stand out Chris. Those palm trees look expensive... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcanman Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Looking great, Chris You must have spent a fortune on Palm Trees, most look like 'Model Tree Shop' palms but what make are the small bushy ones at the front of the layout? I really like them. Mal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shortliner Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Put model palm trees into ebay.com and more will come up than you can shake a stick at - a smaller selection on ebay.co.uk - most are from China with very good service Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Gilbert Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Looking great, Chris You must have spent a fortune on Palm Trees, most look like 'Model Tree Shop' palms but what make are the small bushy ones at the front of the layout? I really like them. Mal Hi Mal Model Tree shop again and your right I have spent a bit the palms are linked below. http://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/acatalog/Mediterranean-Fan-Palm---PT23.html http://www.themodeltreeshop.co.uk/acatalog/Date-Palm-Tree---PT324.html Sizes: 1:200 & Sizes: 1:300 I've still some slash pines plus BMLA Billboard to add and build the fiddle yard..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parthia27 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Brilliant, the whole theme has really come together, can't wait to see itat Warley. Chris M PS nice GP15 and even nicer BN Caboose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Williams Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 That's really coming together. Just needs a pink building. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevorsmith3489 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Hi Thought you might like to see some Tri-Rail videos. I was able to hire a car and dash over to Fort Lauderdale to take some videos between a cruise and a flight back to the UK. This was my second Tri-Rail journey, first three years ago. This time I found the car interiors scruffy and tired. All the trains were late, the conductor's constant use of his mobile phone and carefree use of the PA, together with the station information systems not working, gave the feeling of a system in decline. Temporary end of the line is Hialeah Market, not the airport. Google earth shows the metrorail lines now occupying the site of the airport station next to a "multi-modal" centre. I assume this will be the eventual southern terminus. The centre is a big improvement on the old car rental locations near the Miami River. I wonder if the service quality will be revamped when the new terminus is opened and the new line on FEC tracks is finished? <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TObhsD4_2pU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ritrpLtBLBU" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_RMvS_Mn8tg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Trevor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWB Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I don't know if the conductor's mobile phone refers to something issued to him for communication with the dispatcher and engineer, or whether it's his personal phone. If it's the latter, that's a terminable offense, or should be. Los Angeles had a multiple-fatality head-on in 2008 due in large measure to laxity over this issue. Los Angeles did eventually purge the ranks of management, with apparently good results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevorsmith3489 Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 I don't know if the conductor's mobile phone refers to something issued to him for communication with the dispatcher and engineer, or whether it's his personal phone. If it's the latter, that's a terminable offense, or should be. Los Angeles had a multiple-fatality head-on in 2008 due in large measure to laxity over this issue. Los Angeles did eventually purge the ranks of management, with apparently good results. I may have used the wrong "title" here. The "conductor" was in control of the doors and giving the signal that the doors were closed and the train was safe to move off. I was sitting close enough to hear that the conversations were personal. I was aware of the head-on in 2008 when cell phone use was a major contributing causal factor in a fatal collision, and I was suprised to see this employee use his cell phone so freely in a safety critical role. I used this as an example of the laxity that seemed to pervade Tri-rail on this visit. A further laxity was an utter lack of ticket checking. I live in North Tyneside, England, and following years of widespread ticket abuse, teams of revenue protection staff now patrol our local urban transit (Metro) system to combat fare evasion. We saw no staff on board or at stations and our tickets have never been checked on the five trains I have travelled on, how does Tri-Rail combat fare evasion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supaned Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Looking good with the extension - are there any show dates yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Gilbert Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 It's at Warley NEC in three weeks time and then Trent Valley next June plus possiblly a couple of others Feb March time 2013 but they have not confirmed yet plus It's got two bookings in 2014 I don't want to over expose it like Haston was. It will only go to two day shows because it takes a fair bit of work to set it up. I've started a small BNSF layout for one day shows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted November 1, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 1, 2012 Look forward to seeing it at Warley as we will be there with ROUNDHOUSE. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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