Fat Controller Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Looking at Bing maps there are two Cartics and various other wagons & vans there. Suspect they will still be there as the track appears not to be connected and there is no direct road access to remove them by other means (cutting up). I couldn't see any Cartics in the line of stock on the very heavily overgrown siding at the western end of Ripple Lane yard. As far as I can identify, from the western end the wagons are:- BR brakevan 3 x Grampus Carflat ? with floor missing LMS brakevan with floor and sides missing 3 SR Van B 2 brakevans (burnt-out) 3 BR Ferry vans VDA Burnt out brake van VDA The wagons on the two roads behind still seem to be serviceable- Megafrets and ferryvans. I can't help but think they've over done the 'burnt-out brake van cliché.. http://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=Z9LH3#Y3A9NTEuNTM0NjY1fjAuMTMzOTc4Jmx2bD0xNCZzdHk9ciZlbz0wJnE9RGFnZW5oYW0lMjUyMERvY2s= should take you to the site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted January 19, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 19, 2014 What are the car carriers here? http://binged.it/19FmM8k Andi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 What are the car carriers here? http://binged.it/19FmM8k Andi Mainly STVA 2 and 4-wagon sets, built around 1992, with a few of the single deck variety used for SUVs and vans:- http://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/I/IPA-Vehicle-carriers shows them more clearly. The blue flats are Transfesa container flats for the Silla service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Just wondered if the lone VDA is still at the old Carrington fuel depot, near Manchester that line as long being disconnected. (still there on google earth & bing maps 3/4 view) Sadly not as I visited the site about 18 months ago.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Thanks for that . I wonder if it was saved by some one or just simply cut up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray M Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 Not so much abandoned, but well of the beaten track. Is a MML Mk3 at Birkenshaw Fire training station (near Bradford). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Returning to the line of the undead at Ripple Lane, does anyone know how the zoom facility works on these? I had some further looks at the Bing views at work overnight; when looking using the close-up zoom, the vehicles on the live tracks behind were a selection of container flats. As I zoomed out, however, these mutated into a number of Sealion (or similar) ballast hoppers, with a EWS 66 also becoming visible. Does this mean that the images used for a given view are different on Bing, depending on the 'zoom', in some cases? It's not something I've noticed on Google Earth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pendlerail Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 There is a Tope near Springs Branch Junction just on the line to St Helens, line disconnected has been therre 10 years that i Know of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodmin16 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Not so much abandoned, but well of the beaten track. Is a MML Mk3 at Birkenshaw Fire training station (near Bradford). There is what appears to me to be a coach from a 4CEP in use as a showroom at Garden Art on the A4 Bath road in Hungerford. At least that's what I think it is when viewed from the road, I've not been in the yard to look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted January 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2014 I couldn't see any Cartics in the line of stock on the very heavily overgrown siding at the western end of Ripple Lane yard. As far as I can identify, from the western end the wagons are:- BR brakevan 3 x Grampus Carflat ? with floor missing LMS brakevan with floor and sides missing 3 SR Van B 2 brakevans (burnt-out) 3 BR Ferry vans VDA Burnt out brake van VDA The wagons on the two roads behind still seem to be serviceable- Megafrets and ferryvans. I can't help but think they've over done the 'burnt-out brake van cliché.. http://www.bing.com/maps/?FORM=Z9LH3#Y3A9NTEuNTM0NjY1fjAuMTMzOTc4Jmx2bD0xNCZzdHk9ciZlbz0wJnE9RGFnZW5oYW0lMjUyMERvY2s= should take you to the site. I may be wrong but behind the B vans is the "wavy" outline of a car carrier. don't know if it is a cartic but there is something there. I've tried to Bingit, http://binged.it/1eZ0FcP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted January 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2014 I may be wrong but behind the B vans is the "wavy" outline of a car carrier. don't know if it is a cartic but there is something there. I've tried to Bingit, http://binged.it/1eZ0FcP Rotate it, those are definitely cartics http://binged.it/1f4VRAU Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted January 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2014 Rotate it, those are definitely cartics http://binged.it/1f4VRAU Andi Don't laugh...I never thought of looking on the other side.....Duh! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted January 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Wagons in the Woods or should I really say Freight cars!! East Broad Top, Pennsylvania in 2001. Edited January 20, 2014 by roundhouse 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidH Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Returning to the line of the undead at Ripple Lane, does anyone know how the zoom facility works on these? I had some further looks at the Bing views at work overnight; when looking using the close-up zoom, the vehicles on the live tracks behind were a selection of container flats. As I zoomed out, however, these mutated into a number of Sealion (or similar) ballast hoppers, with a EWS 66 also becoming visible. Does this mean that the images used for a given view are different on Bing, depending on the 'zoom', in some cases? It's not something I've noticed on Google Earth. It happens on Google Earth too, I was looking for an address in Edinburgh, and in one view there is a building site and the next there are new flats. I presume its because different zoom levels call on images of a different date and because not everything is updated at the same time. You've probably also seen Streetview change season halfway down a road ... Edited January 20, 2014 by DavidH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 It happens on Google Earth too, I was looking for an address in Edinburgh, and in one view there is a building site and the next there are new flats. I presume its because different zoom levels call on images of a different date and because not everything is updated at the same time. You've probably also seen Streetview change season halfway down a road ... Thanks for that- I was beginning to wonder if it was just me.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SXHALL Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Could you give a URL for the map, or a clearer description of where this is. I looked hard on Google (mind finding Ripple Lane is very difficult as it doesn't appear to be a real name derived from anything local - there is a Ripple Road) but did not see anything that appeared to be cartics. They deserve to be preserved, showing how the BR designers worked very effectively within the limited loading gauge to provide an efficient way of transporting this light but bulky load. Paul Paul, Paste the below in to Bing or Google maps 51.530487, 0.106499 If you rotate the view in Bing you will see the Cartics clearly. If you 'Streetview' in Google on Wivenhoe road you will see the vans there. Looking from Alfreds Way you can just see a overgrown shrubbery, may be underneath it all. Steven Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted January 20, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 20, 2014 Paul, Paste the below in to Bing or Google maps 51.530487, 0.106499 If you rotate the view in Bing you will see the Cartics clearly. If you 'Streetview' in Google on Wivenhoe road you will see the vans there. Looking from Alfreds Way you can just see a overgrown shrubbery, may be underneath it all. Steven Or simply follow my link in post 61 Andi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 A slight deviation... If you follow the link that Andi gives, there is a large shed in the foreground (Barking Storage?)- on the opposite side of that to the yard are a pair of sidings in a fenced-off area, with two large tractor-shovels being used to handle what looks to be coal. Does anyone know what that traffic might be? It's definitely being used to load wagons, not unload them, as this type of machine would be no use in unloading wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Spoil from somewhere? Is Crossrail anywhere nearby?. That same area looks somewhat lighter on the corresponding Google view, so maybe it had rained on Bing, turning the colour darker? Stab in the dark really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Has anyone mentioned Washwood Heath sidings yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Spoil from somewhere? Is Crossrail anywhere nearby?. That same area looks somewhat lighter on the corresponding Google view, so maybe it had rained on Bing, turning the colour darker? Stab in the dark really. I wondered if it was something like that, but Crossrail's nowhere near (and the spoil from the eastern-drive tunnels goes out by barge), and there's a rubbish/spoil transfer facility next to Dagenham Dock station, so I doubt there'd be another so close by. In one view (which I can't find now), there's an artic tipper with a red tarpaulin arriving. In the Google view, the tractor-shovels are absent, but there's what could almost be a wagon on one of the tracks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Has anyone mentioned Washwood Heath sidings yet? Like this, with the former Rover wagons at right-angles to the track? http://goo.gl/maps/jrDxt 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwr Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 There is a bogie bolster sitting at the end of a siding in Crowborough (Uckfield Line). It's been thre so long there is a tree growing through it Paul R Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpster Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 There's an old electrification wagon in an abandoned siding near Heaton depot in Newcastle. It must have been there since at least the completion of the wiring of the ECML in 1991 or thereabouts. It's some kind of very short wheelbase single bolster wagon with a couple of A-frames mounted on it (which I presume held cable drums). All of the other departmental wagons that were left in Heaton engineers yard (including a very early MK1 corridor coach) were cut up on site about ten years ago. https://goo.gl/maps/Arvm1 Arp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 There is what appears to me to be a coach from a 4CEP in use as a showroom at Garden Art on the A4 Bath road in Hungerford. At least that's what I think it is when viewed from the road, I've not been in the yard to look. That would be this one- http://www.cs.vintagecarriagestrust.org/se/CarriageInfo.asp?Ref=5342 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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